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Volume #0257 April 16, 1999
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Recorded in Hollywood, U.S.A.
Subject: Janice/Girls' Scene
Received: 4/15/99 1:15 PM
From: Ian Chapman, iaXXXbalnet.co.uk
To: Spectropop List, spectXXXcities.com
Hi Jack,
Thanks for the enthusiasm over Girls' Scene. Yes, I think
it's time for the States to finally latch on to "I'll give
it five" as a catchphrase! Many people over here in the UK
still say it, even those too young to have heard it first
time round. Janice lives near me, and still talks exactly
the same way as she did then......very natural and
unaffected, good sense of humour. When I first told her
about "Girls' Scene" and that I wanted to include her track
on it, her comment was "Well, you must be hard up for
tracks, then!" Despite offers of projects, she turned her
back on showbiz in the mid-60s ("I really wasn't bothered")
and became a successful chiropodist! Had her own practice
for many years. She's currently thinking of writing a book
about her 60s pop period.
Ian
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Subject: Re: Peter & Gordon, et al
Received: 4/15/99 1:15 PM
From: Big L, XXXketmail.com
To: Spectropop List, spectXXXcities.com
Always loved "Knight In Rusty Armour," another cut that
suffers greatly from the stereo mix. Much more solid in
mono.
"You've Had Better Times" is great, yes, a bit racy for
1968, but it was less than a year later that Dylan got away
with "Lay Lady Lay."
Actually, KIRA had a bit of that, as well:
I'll never know
How they still got married and had twins
They came in tins
Every suit of armour ever made has a kink
Chain mail fence with a missing link....
I highly recommend the single "Lonely Drifter" by the
O'Jays.
On another list, the term "fags" came up, with a comment by
an Englishman that to them, it means cigarettes.
Then, it was related that these lyrics from the Kinks'
"Well Respected Man" caused quite a stir in the US, where
it means something different entirely:
And he likes his fags the best
And he's better than the rest
And his arm sweat smells the best...
Then, someone else came in with the observation that
smelling arm sweat is one of the "kinks" practiced by those
of that persuasion, which was news to me.
So, opinions... was this a very clever double entendre'
couched in a manner that would only be understood by the
target audience, or is it innocent, as Ray Davies claims?
==
Big L Check out my Radio Legends pages at:
XXXketmail.com http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/9816
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Subject: the Tigers
Received: 4/15/99 1:15 PM
From: Jack Madani, Jack_MXXX.k12.nj.us
To: spectXXXcities.com
On www.on-air.com today I heard a neat little faux-early-
beachboys tune called "Geeto Tiger" by the Tigers. In fact
it wasn't half bad. Would I be right in guessing this is a
Gary Usher or Roger Christian project?
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Jack Madani - Princeton Day School, The Great Road,
Princeton, NJ 08540 Jack_MXXX.k12.nj.us
"You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred."
--Henry Cabot Henhouse III
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Subject: Danny Davis/Ginny Arnell
Received: 4/15/99 1:15 PM
From: Ian Chapman, iaXXXbalnet.co.uk
To: Spectropop List, spectXXXcities.com
Jamie,
Not sure if the MGM and the Phi-Dan Danny Davis are the
same, but the following may be of interest. It comes from
the Oct. 24th '64 edition of Billboard, under the heading
"Davis Joins Phil Spector":-
"NEW YORK-Danny Davis has moved out of the Colpix Records
set-up to take over as director of national promotion for
Phil Spector's Philles Records and subsidiary labels. Also,
Spector is planning to shift his base of operations from
New York to the Coast, having bought the building, which
housed Reprise Records before it joined with Warner Bros.
Davis, who had been Colpix's national promotion director,
will function primarily in the field of disk jockey and
distributor relationships for Philles. In addition, he'll
work closely with Spector in acquiring masters and in the
overall operation of Philles."
Regarding Ginny Arnell's MGM album (originally issued in
both mono and stereo, Doc), the liner notes failed to
mention the records she'd previously made for Decca, as
half of duo Jamie & Jane, (Jamie being Gene Pitney), and
later as a solo. Her version of Jeff Barry's "Tell Me What
He Said" (Decca 9-31190) is pretty good......a lot better
than the Playmates' very straight version just put out on
the "On Broadway" 2-CD set, though not as feisty as Helen
Shapiro's, who took the song to #2 in the UK.
Ian
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Subject: Re: Meet Ginny Arnell
Received: 4/15/99 1:15 PM
From: le_pagXXXcities.com
To: Spectropop List, spectXXXcities.com
Doc Rock, docXXXo.com wrote:
>I've had the original Ginny Arnell LP sine '63, in mono. Is
>the Marginal CD stereo? Are there more than the original 12
>cuts? Are there more than the original 2 photos?
Yes, the album is in true stereo. Very clean analog transfer.
and there are lots of bonus tracks. Here is the lineup:
1 I WISH I KNEW WHAT DRESS TO WEAR
2 DUMB HEAD
3 HOW MANY TIMES CAN ONE HEART BREAK
4 I'M SO AFRAID OF LOSING YOU
5 WATCH WHAT YOU DO WITH MY BABY
6 HE'S MY LITTLE DEVIL
7 LET ME MAKE YOU SMILE AGAIN
8 YOU PULLED A FAST ONE
9 THIS IS MINE
10 YESERDAY'S MEMORIES
11 I DON'T WANT YOU THIS WAY
12 PORTRAIT OF A FOOL
13 LOOK WHO'S TALKING
14 TROUBLE'S BACK IN TOWN
15 JUST LIKE A BOY
16 BILLY WHY
17 I'M GETTING MAD
18 A LITTLE BIT OF LOVE CAN'T HURT
19 CARNIVAL
20 BRAND NEW
21 MISTER SAXOPHONE
22 WE
The Nashville grooves are all professional, the records
well made, and the songs are mostly respectable. There are
some rather tame country songs on here, but there are some
great GG genre tracks. Dumb Head is of course the greatest
ever, her version of Goffin/King's Look Who's Talking is
very Neil Sedaka-styled, and Just Like a Boy could have
been written-to-order for Lesley Gore. The writer credit
on Just Like a Boy says "Taylor." Could this be Chip
Taylor?
There are a few Randazzo tracks here too, with the
trademark major sevens and dramatic builds; these are in
the Little Anthony style and a bit more sophisticated than
the earlier tracks.
Yeah, this is a surprisingly solid body of work!
Two photos: The sunflower shot in color and the b/w oval
portrait on the back. The latter pic also adorns the disc
itself.
The liner notes are of little help. Can you provide any
more background on Ginny Arnell, Doc?
Thanks!
Jamie LePage
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Subject: Re: Harpers Bizarre
Received: 4/15/99 1:15 PM
From: Doc Rock, docXXXo.com
To: spectXXXcities.com
Stewart Mason, flaXXX6.com wrote
Tobias' mention of Harpers Bizarre reminds me that I
recently bought their THE SECRET LIFE OF HARPERS BIZARRE
Who is listed as the producer?
Doc
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Subject: Mick Patrick, Malcolm Baumgart etc
Received: 4/15/99 1:15 PM
From: Ian Chapman, iaXXXbalnet.co.uk
To: Spectropop List, spectXXXcities.com
To Jim Crescitelli & Will Stos,
Yes, know all of 'em! Mick Patrick is the friend I
mentioned who went to the Flirtations concert, and talked
to P.P. Arnold. (He said the concert was brilliant, by the
way) Neither Mick nor Malcolm Baumgart are online, however
(Mick's getting there; Malcolm...it'll never happen!!) I'm
happy to pass on any messages on your behalf, however.
No-one sees Carole Gardiner these days. She hasn't been
involved with Spector collecting or writing for many years,
and sold the majority of her Spector and Motown collection
a long time ago.
Ian
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Subject: American sixties pop and Les Baxter connection?
Received: 4/15/99 1:15 PM
From: Dame Edna Hoover, wuXXXnet.se
To: spectXXXcities.com
I was thinking....a lot of the eastern stuff every band
started doing in '66 sounds pretty similar to the Exotica
music pioneered by Les Baxter (and later commercialised by
Martin Denny) in the early 1950s. I know he had a bunch of
million-selling records - has any of the psych pop groups
of the sixties ever 'officially' said anything about a
Baxter influence in their music? For example, Pet Sounds
(the song), which some people say is a bit like the James
Bond music, but to me is one big tribute to Baxter,
straight down to the use of the Guiro percussion
instrument. Another BB song which almost sounds EXACTLY
like Baxter is Diamond Head. The "Doin' doin' doin'"-line
in Cabin Essence is of course taken directly from Juan
Garcia Esquivel, a Mexican arranger/pianist who recorded
very bizarre versions of old standards.
Has Brian Wilson ever mentioned these artists as any
influence? Carol Kaye, do you remember if he ever talked
specifically about Baxter or Esquivel during the recording
sessions? It just sounds like to me like Brian listened
quite a lot to these guys during the BBs "progressive
years".
Tobias
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