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Volume #0256 April 14, 1999
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LONG PLAYING UNBREAKABLE
Subject: Re: Hot, Cold & Custard
Sent: 04/14/19 12:05 pm
Received: 04/14/99 3:17 am
From: Andrew Sandoval, APSXXXXXXXXom
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com
Dave wrote:
> Andrew, I just got a copy of Hot, Cold & Custard last week.
> It is really good (and scarce). Any chance Rhino could
> be coaxed into issuing it on CD? Apparently, Collectables
> has no intention of doing so...
>
> Dave
Sean wrote:
> Yes! I too feel it might be their very best collective
> long-player. The single from the LP, "You've Had Better
> Times", went nowhere (Capitol didn't even bother with a
> picture sleeve for it)....but it is a great tune. At the
> time it was rumored that Mr. McCartney had a hand in the
> production and/or instruments on the single.
>
> Curious...wouldn't have been the first time Macca worked
> with'em, you know?! And Peter was very tight in the Beatle
> camp at the time ('68, I think..) as he was the first A&R
> guy for Apple. "Discovered" James Taylor, etc. A buddy of
> mine even received a reject "thanks, but no thanks" letter
> from Peter on Apple Stationery. Very Cool! Anyway, it's
> nice to know that that LP turned somebody else on as much
> as me! Is there any hope of it ever seeing the light of
> day as a CD release....other than on Collectibles (ugh!)???
> And why didn't EMI release it across the pond?? Anybody?
Not a likely reissue from Rhino due entirely to sales
projections (as are so many things these days). If I win
the lottery - let the spectropop list members be my
witnesses - I will not only license it from Capitol and
issue it on my own label, but I will also use the rest of
my earnings to put out an Easybeats box set.
As for Mr. McCartney's involvement, he does not appear on
the album. Brian Jones plays the drums on You've Had
Better Times (recorded on a drunken afternoon, when Peter,
Gordon & Brian rang up Abbey Road to see if any studio time
was available). Jones also plays the Harmonica on an
earlier single of their's "Love Me Baby." McCartney does
however play drums on an Asher produced single from '68 by
Paul Jones. Gordon Waller has also told me that the
extensive use of backwards effects (I Feel Like Going Out
& Uncle Hartington) was because of Asher and McCartney's
experimentation with the form at the Asher family home
(where Paul once lived). Waller credits a lot of the
Beatles backwards effects with the loops and such that
Peter Asher helped Paul create - take that for what you
will.
You've Had Better Times was almost a hit, but was banned
due to sexual nature of the lyrics. The album was not
issued in the UK because Peter & Gordon's chart fortunes
were on the decline at home (they had not issued an album
in the the UK since 1966), while in the States there was
still sufficient interest to merit a release.
- andrew sandoval
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Subject: Re: Harpers Bizarre
Sent: 04/09/19 10:53 pm
Received: 04/14/99 3:17 am
From: Stewart Mason, flamiXXXXXXXXcom
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com
Tobias' mention of Harpers Bizarre reminds me that I
recently bought their THE SECRET LIFE OF HARPERS BIZARRE
on vinyl and lord, my world is officially rocked. This is
easily one of the most...um, well, bizarre...soft pop
albums I have heard, in a class with SONG CYCLE (I knew
vaguely that Van Dyke was somehow involved, but I had no
idea that they did a version of Randy's "Vine Street," one
of my all-time favorite VDP songs -- to what extent was he
associated with this band?) and, more recently, Richard
Davies' work with the Moles. Having only previously known
them through their okay cover of "The 59th Street Bridge
Song," I have the usual questions: history, CD
availability, what happened to everyone besides Ted
Templeman, and most importantly if the rest of their
oeuvre is as delightfully odd as "Me Japanese Boy" and the
little interludes sprinkled through this album.
Stewart
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Subject: Danny Davis....
Sent: 04/08/19 8:43 pm
Received: 04/14/99 3:17 am
From: Carol Kaye, carolkXXXXXXXXlink.net
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com
>Carol, you must remember Danny Davis. Any interesting
>anecdotes?
Vaguely...I remember him, but there were many many people
constantly in the booth. Phil Spector was only one of my
accounts....I was always rushing off to the next date, so
really didn't talk to a lot of people hanging around Phil.
I'd probably know him well if I saw him....it's hard to
remember 100s of names outside of the musicians, but
that's about the number outside of the musicians that you
ran into every day in the studios, sorry Jamie, don't
recall that much.
>The Fifth Dimension - Living Together Growing Together.
>Most of the songs are great, backed up by the entire
>Wrecking Crew (no Carol Kaye in sight, though) and seems
>to be more in a Philadelphia-soul kind of way
No, of course not, I only played about 3-4 songs of theirs,
that's Joe Osborn on the bulk of the 5th Dimension.
FYI "Tobias", the term "wrecking crew" was TOTALLY
unheard-of before Hal Blaine's book came out about 1990
(which I helped him connect with some friends of mine who
ran MIX Magazine and they're the ones who published his
book) and is sort of passe.
That's Hal's pet phrase describing the 50-60 of us (out of
the 350 or so successful working studio musicians in LA
doing it all) who did the Phil Spector dates and other
dates, borrowed from the name of the backup group behind
Darlene Love in NYC in the 80s.
None of us were EVER called that back in the 60s, never
heard of that term at all and some sure hate that term....
but I don't blame Hal for wanting to promote his book...
it's not selling every well unfortunately. We were called
the "clique" if anything (were free-lance studio musicians)
and Hal Blaine is only one of the well-known drummers in
the studios.
Earl Palmer (who also hates that term as it sort of
implies we were all "Hal's gang" NOT TRUE) did as many
record dates as Hal Blaine----his bio book is now out (on
Amazon.com too) "BACKBEAT" the Earl Palmer Story.
Earl was certainly on a LOT of the Phil Spector hits, inc.
"You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'", and brought the swamp
beat from New Orleans to LA late 50s which eventually
turned into the "Funk" you hear today (he used the word
"funk" back in 1949 when he was recording in New Orleans
studios as it meant stinky shoes, he's the 1st one to use
it in a phrase connected w/music).
You hear Earl on the early James Brown and Fats Domino
recordings before he ever saw LA (I'm on a movie playing
with Earl for James Brown too in the 60s, in my Log).
Credits for the studio musicians were not required to be
on the backs of record albums until 1973 by the Musicians
Union. However, this will soon be rectified as the book by
Russ Wapensky is almost done and will be out later this
year.
His research was gleaned from all the legal (and most
accurate) Musicians Union studio musician contracts (from
where our pensions and re-use monies are derived), credits
1949-1969.
So all the guessing by everyone, either from "magazine
articles" (the most unreliable, we saw them lie through
their teeth in the 60s -- you can imagine how bad they are
now), or studio logs (again, very unreliable), this will be
the bible of credits for us.
BTW, my new album, "Thumbs Up" with the legendary jazz sax
man Ray Pizzi and fine studio guitarist Mitch Holder (
myself on elec. bass) is now out, and flying out the door.
..is only in tape form right now but the soundbytes of our
recorded live jazz concerts will be on my website in the
next week or so. We have such busy schedules it's hard to
get us out playing, but we happen to have a nice gig at
Papashons - Encino, Tues. Apr. 20th.
This is real jazz, not fusion nor elevator stuff.....I
played some real jazz with all the heavies in LA in the
50s (was asked by George Shearing to join his group - was
a guitarist then, but was too far escounced in the studio
work and didn't want to leave my kids for road work -- the
money in the studios was 4-5 times as much as any traveling
thing too) -- so think if you're a real jazz fan, you'll
love this tape. Joel Leach, music head at Cal-State
Northridge just loves it, others too.
And my 27th tutorial book is almost done "Jazz Improv"....
I look forward to the prized bass students from colleges
and universities all over the USA coming to be in my
master class at the prestigeous Henry Mancini Institute at
UCLA this summer....from the audition tapes there are many
fine talents I'm honored to teach.
Carol Kaye
http://www.carolkaye.com/
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Subject: Good stores in Vegas
Sent: 04/11/19 3:33 am
Received: 04/14/99 3:17 am
From: Ron Weekes, WeekXXXXXXXX.edu
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com
Hey all! I'm heading down to Las Vegas this Thursday. I'll
be there for a week attending two broadcast related
conventions. Any good collector record stores I should
hit while I'm there?
Landlocked in Idaho!
Ron Weekes
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Subject: Laura Nyro
Sent: 04/15/19 5:33 pm
Received: 04/14/99 3:17 am
From: Paul MacArthur, Rtf_XXXXXXXXedu
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com
>Laura Nyro - Stoned Soul Picnic, The Best Of...A two-CD
>album, but I have only heard the first one yet. Great
>stuff so far! I can't believe her own recordings never
>charted when other artists turned the same songs into huge
>hits!
I LOVE Laura Nyro, but the reason her stuff never made it is
probably because her voice is a bit thin.
- Paul
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Subject: Lost friends and relatives from LA
Sent: 04/07/19 3:43 pm
Received: 04/14/99 3:17 am
From: haoleboy, kXXXXXXXXboy.com
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com
Hello everyone,
This is Dan Shubin, formerly of South Gate, CA, currently
of Hilo, HI, by way of Portland, OR. Callname: kana (my
Hawai'ian name).
I'm wondering if any old buddies are lurking on the list--
Mike Baird, Jim Giordano, Kent Henry, Mike Fennely, Fred
Rivera, Kathy Sisoyev, Craig Moerer, Eric Engleke, Arni
and the Portland contingent, anyone that used to jam with
us at Fred's old house in East LA, anyone from South Gate,
UCLA's band greeters, the Fairport ConCrew--early seventies.
Moeller? Millennium. American Genesis. Elijah.
Hale Milgrim and any of the WB pre-MTV guys that worked
with me and Carin, Kent Crawford, any City One Stop folk--
Pat, Saul.... Ed Richardson, the CBS guys that worked with
Ronnie (Spider)...my memory's coming back to me, thank you
Doctor.
Gotta go beach--
Dan Shubin
kana
Hawai'i
Eddie Would Go!
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Subject: Them Poems and Other Things
Sent: 04/14/19 11:43 pm
Received: 04/14/99 3:17 am
From: Tom Bryan, tbrXXXXXXXXgy.net
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com
Looking for Jim Connor, "Them Poems and Other Things" on
VeeJay label. Any idea where to find that?
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Subject: Meet Ginny Arnell
Sent: 04/17/19 1:45 am
Received: 04/14/99 3:17 am
From: Doc Rock, docroXXXXXXXXcom
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com
>Speaking of Phi-Dan and Mr. Danny Davis, I just picked up
>the Meet Ginny Arnell album (Marginal MAR 088)
Jamie,
I've had the original Ginny Arnell LP sine '63, in mono. Is
the Marginal CD stereo? Are there more than the original 12
cuts? Are there more than the original 2 photos?
Thanks.
Doc
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Subject: the girls' scene
Sent: 04/10/19 12:43 am
Received: 04/14/99 3:17 am
From: Jack Madani, Jack_MadXXXXXXXX12.nj.us
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXXXXXXties.com
oo wee, this is a splendid compilation. Big sounds, groovy
liner notes, and Lulu in go-go boots. Holy cow, Janice
Nicholls totally slays me with "I'll Give It Five." I
swear, I'm going to have to start using that phrase.
Barry St. John's "Hey Boy" is pretty good (a cover of the
Freddie Scott "Hey Girl"), with a shimmering harpsichord
hook that runs throughout. What an indestructable song
that is; has anybody heard a bad version of it?
Pamela Blue is immediately identified as a Joe Meek girl.
His production style is instantly recognizable--that
unbelievably flat 2-dimensional plane of sound. I'd like
to hear more from those in the know on Joe Meek and his
production technique. Was he using a casette-based
fourtrack or something? In some vague way, his records
almost sound like they were made in his bedroom, yet they
still cook. Amazing.
This album merits repeated listening, but at this early
juncture I'd have to name as personal faves Truly Smith's
"The Boy From Chelsea", Barry St. John's "Hey Boy", and
Billie Davis' "Nobody's Home To Go Home To."
Nice collection of music. But perhaps the best thing about
it, as with the UK-oriented entries in the Here Come The
Girls series, is the NAMES!!!! Truly, Barry, Beryl, oh
baby! Not only did Great Britain save the western world in
1940-1941; they also came up with the most smashing girls'
names. Dewd.
I'll give it five.
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Jack Madani - Princeton Day School, The Great Road,
Princeton, NJ 08540 Jack_MadXXXXXXXX12.nj.us
"You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred."
--Henry Cabot Henhouse III
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