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There are 7 messages in this issue of Spectropop.

Topics in this Digest Number 256:

           From: Mick Patrick 
      2. Ann-Margret/Paul Sabu
           From: "Don Charles" 
      3. Re: "Unchained Melody"
           From: Carol Kaye 
      4. Re: Spector or Medley???
           From: Billy G. Spradlin 
      5. Re: Spector or Medley ???
           From: RobtWicker 
      6. Mo' Medley
           From: LePageWeb 
      7. Ronnie Spector
           From: ntstocks 


Message: 1
   Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 22:32:22 +0100 (BST)
   From: Mick Patrick 


A few of my pals, having seen Bob Crewe interviewed on TV
in recent months, have commented on the similarity in
appearance of the legendary producer and myself. How I
wish the likeness extended to our financial states.

A communication from the legal representatives of Bob
Crewe to Westside Records has resulted in THE DYNOVOICE
STORY double CD being withdrawn from sale. It seems Mr
Crewe objected to his name and likeness being used on the
cover of this CD. He was requesting a fee of $150K (I
repeat, one hundred and fifty thousand dollars!) as
compensation. Westside opted to withdraw the product
rather than pay up. All remaining stock has been crushed.

I'd suggest that anyone intending to purchase The
Dynovoice Story does so sooner rather than later, before
retail stocks expire. My CD supplier Jim Stewart has some
copies left, I believe. You can contact him at:


PS: Of course, I look much younger than Bob Crewe. That's
because I AM, Blanche!

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Message: 2
   Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 16:16:08 +0000
   From: "Don Charles" 
Subject: Ann-Margret/Paul Sabu

Ann-Margret's self-titled disco record on MCA from 1980
is one of my prize possessions.  It contains the chart
hits "Love Rush" and "Midnight Message," which I fondly
remember dancing to as an underage discotheque patron in
1979.  Most important, it was produced by Paul Sabu,
whose productions in '79 qualify him as a Spector
imitator, at least in regard to "bigness" of sound.  Of
Indian background, and son of Selar Sabu, the actor who
portrayed Sabu, the Elephant Boy, Paul Sabu looks like a
brown-haired David Lee Roth.  In the late '70s, he
married arena-rock guitar solos and crisp Latin
percussion with movie soundtrack-style orchestrations.
His favorite recording studios were Brittania and
Larrabee Sound.  More recently, Paul Sabu has produced
with heavy metal groups, written songs for movies, and
recorded as a solo artist. He was also involved in the
early career of Shania Twain. His disco recordings with
Ann-Margret, Gwen Jonae/Sister Power, Barbara Law, his
own group Sabu and especially Debbie Jacobs would make
one hell of a dance compilation.

Don Charles

Will George wrote:
>It is a 5-CD box set, with a beautiful hardbound book,
>as is standard with Bear Family. It includes all of
>Ann-Margret's recordings except for her album and
>singles with Lee Hazlewood, her Tommy soundtrack stuff,
>and her 1980 disco album. 
>Yes, there are some horrific tracks on here, but there
>are also some great, overlooked classics here, including
>three Sloan-Barri songs, a couple of Goffin-King tunes,
>and a previously unreleased Bacharach-David composition.
>It's a hefty price for the casual fan, but well worth it
>in my opinion.

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Message: 3
   Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 10:23:20 -0700
   From: Carol Kaye 
Subject: Re: "Unchained Melody"

> What really went on here, Carol, was Phil at the
> "Unchained Melody" sessions???

To tell you the truth, I don't remember, but always
assumed he was - he was always at his own dates...there
wouldn't be a recording date without was
always under our impressions (speaking for Don Randi,
etc. here) that Phil did produce that. fact.....we were almost denied our rightful
re-use payments because of this controversy maybe - at
first Don Randi was told "that's a remake of it, not the
original Phil Spector recording of the Righteous
Bros."....but that IS us playing on the record that is
being used in the movie "Ghost" and we were able to
prove it thanks to Don Randi and the one you hear on the
radio and recordings is with us........whether there's
"2" of them or not, not sure what the deal is
there...but I (and the rest of us, Don Randi fought for
our rightful re-use and we got it, thanks to his
testimony that it was Phil's recording of it - I'm
playing guitar not bass on that one) am sure altho' I
don't remember that Phil did produce that recording.

My name was left off one important contract of another
tune as a credit, so yes, it's possible that his name
was left off of the label, it happened a lot back then,
there was so much activity, so much going on and people
would forget to do things.  

Carol Kaye

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Message: 4
   Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 07:39:31 -0000
   From: Billy G. Spradlin 
Subject: Re: Spector or Medley???

Can someone check the credits for "Unchained Melody" on
the Philles LP that it's on? (Just Once In My Life or
even an original copy of "Greatest Hits" on Verve?)

PS: thanks to David for figuring out the "Needles & Pins"
mystery. My first impression upon hearing the MP3 was
that it was from the early 70's. It should have been a
hit but Polydor didnt had few hits in the USA at that

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Message: 5
   Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 22:39:53 EDT
   From: RobtWicker 
Subject: Re: Spector or Medley ???

There is no doubt in my mind, Spector did NOT produce
that song.  The comments attributed to Larry Levine as
told to Ribowsky can't be true.  In Ribowsky's book, he
says that some of the tracks that showed up on the
Back-To-Back LP were old Medley demos and unfinished
tracks Spector threw on to finish out the album (p. 210).

He also talks about Spector letting Medley produce LP
"filler".  He quotes Larry Levine inisting to Phil that
Levine, Medley and Hatfield go into the studio one
weekend to produce an LP for Lovin' Feelin'.  In the
next sentence he says Bill produced it (p. 207).

The backing track is not mixed like any other Spector
track I've ever heard.  And, if he produced that song,
how come Ebb Tide and White Cliffs Of Dover don't have
that same sound.  Those two have his sound - echo,
pre-mixed rhythm track with vocals, violins and
percussion dubbed over, but Unchained clearly does not. 
Not one Spector produced track before or after Unchained
Melody has the sound on that record.  You can show the
development of Spector's recording techniques by
listening to the songs in chronological order - but only
if you leave out Unchained - it simply does not mesh
with the others.

I've also heard snippets from an interview with Darlene
Love and Bill Medley where Medley stated directly that
he produced that track.  I think the vague credits on
the "Just Once In My Life" lp show Spector did not
produce that track and couldn't bring himself to credit
Medley directly.  All the tracks on the other two
Righteous Brother LPs are correctly, specifically
credited to one or the other.

Of course, this is just my opinion, I could be wrong....

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Message: 6
   Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 14:03:53 +0900
   From: LePageWeb 
Subject: Mo' Medley

Mark Landwehr wrote:

> Mark Ribowsky told me that, according to Larry Levine,
> Phil produced EVERYTHING the Righteous Brothers did...A-
> and B-sides, and all LP tracks. Whew! Where does one go
> from THERE???

*smile* Very interesting, Mark! Where DOES one go from
there? One thing for sure, it's a relief to know Levine
isn't also claiming HE produced it!!!

I dug out my old copy of Richard Williams' wonderful
book Out of His Head in which Williams wrote: "The
Righteous Brothers three Philles albums...were useless
if you had already bought their singles, because those
singles were all Phil ever produced with them. He padded
the albums out with Medley-produced versions of things
like Sticks and Stones and Oo-Poo-Pah-Doo accompanied by
something called the Mike Patterson Band. It was
substandard, even for fans of their Moonglow records"

That reminded me that all those Medley-produced filler
tracks were played by a different, much smaller group
of musicians than those on the A sides of Righteous
Brothers' singles. So is Unchained Melody unique in
being the only Phil Spector Productions recording that
Medley claims he produced on which the Spector
regulars rather than the Mike Patterson Band performed?
Or that had a full string section?

Carol, ever heard of the Mike Patterson Band? How about
arrangers Woody Woodrich or Bill Baker? Ring any bells?


"P.S. I'm sure you'll get a big kick of the funny ad-lib
by Bob and Bill on 'Oo-Poo-Pah Doo'" (Danny Davis)

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Message: 7
   Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 16:23:11 +0900
   From: ntstocks 
Subject: Ronnie Spector

Posted to the Spectropop Bulletin Board by ntstocks
 on Wed, 03 Oct 2001 18:21:28 

Does anybody know? Did Ronnie Spector ever do a nude
photo spread? I remember seeing a picture some place or
somewhere. Thank you.

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