__________________________________________________________ __________ __________ __________ __________ __________ S P E C T R O P O P __________ __________ __________ __________________________________________________________ Volume #0354 December 7, 1999 __________________________________________________________ exciting full-color sketchbook look insideSubject: Chapel date Received: 12/06/99 10:23 pm From: WASE RADIO,xxxxxt.org To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com To John Frank: The Dixie Cups' version of "Chapel of Love" was recorded February 3rd, 1964 at Mirasound studios in New York. Michael G, Marvin WASE radio --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Mrs. O'Leary's Cow? Received: 12/06/99 10:23 pm From: Brad Elliott, suxxxxxonline.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Michael G. Marvin wrote: > Fearing that the song had > something to do with this strange phenomonon, he had most > of the tape destroyed-except for about two minutes of it > which languishes in the Capitol vaults. Aah, mythology -- a wonderful thing, isn't it? Actually, Brian doesn't seem to have destroyed any of the tapes. The full session tape -- all 18 takes of it -- survives to this day, as well as several different mixdowns from 1966 (including one with snap-crackle-pop sound effects). BTW, none of it is sitting in the Capitol vaults. Rather, it's in the Beach Boys' own vault. Surf's up! Brad P.S. -- Most of the "Fire" session tape was bootlegged during the summer on the Sea of Tunes label's "Unsurpassed Masters, Vol. 17" CD (subtitled "Smile Sessions"). If you're into it, it's an interesting listen! --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: "Fire" sessions - Brian Wilson Received: 12/06/99 10:23 pm From: Carol Kaye, caroxxxxxhlink.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Michael Marvin says: >He assembled a small string section and had the studio >janitor actually built a fire in a bucket-and placed the >burning container in the studio. I was on those dates of "Fire" at Gold Star with Brian Wilson, Hal Blaine, etc. and certainly don't remember any "fire" built in a bucket at all! We did those things at Gold Star, and I was amazed at the beauty and depth of sounds he wrote, especially of the cellos that Brian wrote for....the eerie sounds they got sounded just like fire engines going to a fire, and fire sounds, etc., plus we all did the "rebuilding" sounds of hammers pounding, Lyle Ritz operated the riveting machine while I helped Gene Estes hold the wood while he pounded it, others were having a ball sawing away, doing all kinds of carpentry sounds. Brian did bring firehats to the recording session, but from what I remember he and Lyle Ritz were the only ones who wore them, otherwise it was a usual record date scene except for the after-date carpentry thing which we got a lot of money for, and it was kind of fun, like group therapy or something. You're probably right about Brian getting a little spooked about all the fires around LA, but as I have understood it for years now (studio musicians talk about this stuff too) from long ago: There were 2 big fires around LA, like we have every year with our santana winds. The 3rd fire was the biggie tho', the Malibu fire which was the straw that broke the camel's back....everytime Brian played his master, coincidentally one of those fires started and the 3rd time was the start of the Malibu fire. I finally got word to him later (I think - not sure what time-frame here) that I personally saw the Malibu fire start. I was driving in on the 101 from Camarillo (where I lived for about 8 mos. then moved back to LA area) to master the Joe Pass Guitar Style book recording I had just cut with Joe Pass -- still available for his book btw, through my catalog page: http://www.carolkaye.com/books.htm and rounded the bend at the Malibu turn-off, saw this wisp of smoke in what turned out to be a little fire in a trash-can and saw small truck w/camper-shell driving off from this little rest-stop alongside the freeway - evidently that it had just deposited some burning trash. In my rear-view mirror - it was a long stretch of road there, I watched in horror as I saw the winds just whip that little trashcan fire up the side of the adjoining mountainside so quick it probably took all of 2-3 seconds. ...I had a long-time sweeping view as it was fairly straight, very long slight-curve road after that. Couldn't believe it as I saw that whole mountainside catch fire, and was hoping they would catch that fire, saw many cars really slow down at that checking it all out --- the winds were blowing HARD that day. Went to master the Joe Pass Guitar Style tape of Joe's in the Valley, and then late that day (around 4PM) barely got through all the smokey haze to return home. It looked like the whole world was on fire. The next day I was out in my yard watering down my roof-top, preparing to move the publishing company masters and photos, other important documents were in my car ready to evacuate at a minute's notice as the flames were coming up to the top of the hill I lived on in Camarillo, coming in the back way, and this was about 30 miles from where the fire originally started, the wind was so fierce. Ashes were raining down on my roof (house was 2/3 the way down the hill, I had a little time but flames were licking at the top of the hill, you could see them). And fire companies managed to stop that part of the fire. Somehow I do believe that Brian never realized his own talent so much that he tho't (maybe) it was a direct feeling of connection with God, Jaco Pastorius the bassist also has been quoted speaking this way. Don't forget, Brian never had the chance to really grow up without all the hoopla surrounding the success of the Beach Boys, his productions, etc. too....that's pretty difficult and a lot of pressure on a young man, especially if he's had a tough childhood. But the rumors surrounding the way Brian recorded (and thought of) his sessions of "Fire" should be laid to rest once the truth is understood. Great news: Earl Palmer is the first inductee into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame under the new studio musician category, "Sideman". Rumor has it that Hal Blaine is next and yes, they've mentioned my name too. The first thing that Earl said was: "we ALL should be in there for all the 60s recordings we ALL did created together", that's our Earl, Congratulations Earl Palmer!!! Best, Carol Kaye http://www.carolkaye.com/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Mrs. O'Leary's Cow? Received: 12/06/99 10:23 pm From: Jamie LePage, le_pagxxxxxities.com To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Michael G. Marvin wrote: >In late 1966, Brian Wilson recorded a song called "Fire" >...to me it made for uncomfortable listening. Well, it certainly wasn't Surfin' Safari! I know what you mean, Michael, but Fire and all the other unfinished Smile masters are incredible recordings, thought by many to be the peak of Brian Wilson's creativity. While it is regrettable the project wasn't completed or released in a timely fashion, I think thirty-some years after the fact it is fairly safe to say that Brian was intent on evoking moods, much as a composer for a film score might, e.g., evoking fear or discomfort from a fire. I simply adore this recording. What makes it so eerie? The bass line. Unbelievable. Jamie n.p. "Hicksville" (SOT17 disc one) --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Girl Group Stuff Received: 12/06/99 10:23 pm From: Stos, William, xxxxx.tyenet.com To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Hi! Some items to pass along to you Spectropopers. I've started up a girl group discussion list on iname and some people have finally found it, and there's a lot of discussion brewing. Thought I'd pop over to this group a see if anyone can contribute. Does anyone know a 60s girl singer named Hannah Dean? Aside from "Quite A Reputation," what else did the Chymes record? Also, one of the people on the list is putting together tracks for two new Girls in the Garage comps, and two other series. One new comp will feature virtually unknown gals: any requests? Thanks Spectropoppers! Will --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Spectropop newsletter questions Received: 12/02/99 1:23 am From: Rob Wicker, RobtWxxxxxcom To: spectxxxxxities.com I have a few questions for Carol Kaye, Jerry Riopell and any other subscribers that may have been at the "A Christmas Gift For You" Philles recording sessions. 1. Were any other songs recorded, but not used on the album? 2. Were there any songs on the album recorded by other artists, but not used? 3. Do you have any memories from these sessions that stand out that you would like to share? If you participated in these sessions, thank you - your contributions are enjoyed every year! - Robert --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Philles 115 "Then He Kissed Me" Received: 12/04/99 6:08 pm From: bruns, xxxxxedu To: spectxxxxxities.com I have a copy of The Crystals' "Then He Kissed Me" b/w "Brother Julius" (Philles 115). The record is in mint condition, and the original jacket (with the logo and slogan "Tomorrow's Sound...Today!") is in good condition (there are no rips or tears and no stains, though the paper is faded somewhat). Inscribed on the inner groove of the 45 are the words "Phil + Annette," which I understand was Phil's own signature --a dedication to his then wife which appeared on a limited number of pressings. Is this correct? Can you give me some indication as to how much this item is worth, or where I might be able get an informed estimate? Thank you John Bruns --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Jimmy Webb solo albums? Received: 12/06/99 10:23 pm From: Poopdeck Pappy, wuxxxxxet.se To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Jimmy Webb mentions in passing in his book that he's recorded several solo albums. Aside of "Ten Easy Pieces", what are the titles of the others, do they contain any of his hits, and are they as good as his early stuff with The 5th Dimension and Glen Campbell? T. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Victorians Received: 12/06/99 10:23 pm From: Ian Chapman, iaxxxxx.net To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com Jamie wrote:- > The liners to the recent comp CD Girls Will > Be Girls mention that Marty worked with the Victorians > for Liberty Records. (Can you elaborate, Mr. Chapman?) Hi Jamie, There's nothing I can really add to Alan's post about the Victorians, although I do think anyone who has an ear for Darlene Love's voice will agree that she's in there, even though it's not her singing lead. Not too surprising, given the Cooper/Nitzsche connections. BTW, John Frank - you just made my day! Ian --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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