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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
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There are 10 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. NY Reuters report - Rod McKuen Ends Exile, Gains New Purpose
           From: Neb Rodgers 
      2. Re: Rick Nelson, Glen Campbell & Jerry Fuller
           From: Alan Gordon 
      3. Donna Marie Interview In No Kind Of Superstar #4
           From: No Kind of Superstar 
      4. Re:  Stolen Licks
           From: Artie Wayne 
      5. Release days of CDs
           From: Delila Lacevic 
      6. Re: Gary Zekley
           From: Artie Wayne 
      7. Re: Dirty Water - The Boston Rock & Roll Museum
           From: Steve Harvey 
      8. Music law
           From: Alan Gordon 
      9. June Carter/Beach Boys/Letter to Dad/Stolen "Kicks"
           From: Bob Rashkow 
     10. Re: Teri Nelson Group
           From: Louis 


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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 16:09:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Neb Rodgers Subject: NY Reuters report - Rod McKuen Ends Exile, Gains New Purpose http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=musicNews&storyID=2759545 Wow... I haven't seen Rod McKuen's name mentioned in years... glad to see he's still around. -Neb -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 16:15:38 -0700 From: Alan Gordon Subject: Re: Rick Nelson, Glen Campbell & Jerry Fuller Mikey wrote: > ...the release date has been pushed back to June 6th however. Now that's a neat trick. I saw it last weekend at Amoeba Music in Oakland Ca. best dishes, albabe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 23:39:55 -0000 From: No Kind of Superstar Subject: Donna Marie Interview In No Kind Of Superstar #4 Donna Marie was signed to Columbia in the 1960s and also appeared on a couple of the Archies' singles. The latest issue of my punk, garage, psych and power pop zine No Kind Of Superstar includes a rare interview with her (the only other one I'm aware of was conducted by Don Charles several years ago). There's also stuff on the Third Rail and the Banana Splits, plus loads of off-topic articles I won't mention here. You get 56 A4 pages/glossy cover. If you'd like a copy, please send 1.00 (UK), 04 IRCs (Europe) or 5 IRCs (rest of the world) to No Kind Of Superstar, PO Box 274, Wakefield WF1 2UG, England. I'm also looking for contributors, so please get in touch if you're curious. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 19:46:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: Stolen Licks Steve..... Alan...... I'm afraid John Lennon did get sued for "Come Together". Not only did Morris Levys' publishing company...... Tommy James and his co-writer get half of the copyright [I don't know the title of their original song]. As part of the settlement John Lennon agreed to record several songs in Morris' catalog......hence the "Rock and Roll" album. regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 05:08:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Delila Lacevic Subject: Release days of CDs Dave Feldman: > And are there uniform days for releases in other > parts of the world? Any thoughts or referrals > would be mucho appreciated. I remember this coming into line sometime in the 70s, but I can't say exactly when - seems like it happened over time, distributor by distributor. As to why Tuesday, that's because it's the easiest day in which to guarantee delivery by . . . most shipments come UPS or a non-Postal Service method, and these companies don't deliver normally on the weekends. So a Thursday or Friday shipment will get there usually by Monday, or Tuesday at the latest. To be honest, the labels would probably prefer Monday - it would give them one extra day of selling time in the week to push the numbers for big releases higher. But it's tough to guarantee that all the stores would get the releases prior early enough on Monday. The big idea is that no one sells a new release before it's officially Tuesday. It also makes it easier to track down stores who are violating this no-sales-before-Tuesday rule to have it always be the same day. They can't say they "forgot". (Punishment is rarely dealt out, but I do know stores that lost a few days of sales on big releases as a result. So most stores don't think it's worth it.) Why the UK and much of Europe has Monday is beyond me. Perhaps the smaller geographic area makes Monday deliveries more of a sure thing. I seem to recall Japan having Thursday or Friday as the big day, but can't recall for sure. Dee -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 08:06:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: Gary Zekley Jeff......How ya' doin'? On my first trip to Hollywood Gary Zekley, Mitch Bottler and I co-wrote two songs on the Clique album, "Ain't No Such Thing As Love" and "Hallelujah" [which later became a top 30 hit by Sweathog]. Then we got together with Richard Baskin and wrote the novelty song "Knock, Knock" in one session. We all were all that positive we had a hit song..........I raced back to New York and booked a session as fast as I could!!! We called the group Boys and Girls Together ......used some of Joey Levine's session musicians and included the voices of Howard Boggess, Sissy Spacek, Edie Baskin, my partner Kelli Ross and myself. While we were in the studio mixing, Gary Zekley called from L.A. and I played it for him on the phone. He loved it and admitted he was about to cut it himself but after hearing ours he changed his mind. Charlie Fach, who had just started Intrepid records after a spectacular career at Smash records [Roger Miller ...Bruce Channel] picked the master up for costs and rush released it. That's all I remember........ regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 10:15:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Re: Dirty Water - The Boston Rock & Roll Museum Something to do even if you "have to be in by 12 o'clock". http://www.dirtywater.com/ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 11:52:34 -0700 From: Alan Gordon Subject: Music law Phil Chapman on stolen licks..... Great friggin dissertation, Phil. Lotsa thoughtful information! > Isn't this the crux of the whole plagiarism issue? Absolutely. And as I said, my thoughts were a "loose opinion." Who am I to make these decisions? That's left to law lobbyists and profiteering politicians. The only thing you didn't exactly hit on was the basis of said "law." I've read a bit on some of this. The trouble is that a lot of "writers" who have done articles about music law in music publications like "Crawdaddy" and others, have put their own slant on things, as per usual. It's like the news reporting science... it's mostly a convoluted joke that's been pabulum -ized for the uninformed/uneducated masses. Sometimes a little PBS can be a bad thing. > I also think the law is interpreted differently depending in > which country the case is brought. Some friends and I started a comics company a decade or so ago and I had the interesting opportunity to delve fairly deeply into copyright law. We got so screwed by foreign countries' publication "law." We found out that there is no way you can hold anyone from a foreign country to the rules of a copyright contract they signed, unless you have lotsa money or are a friend of the Shrub Plutocracy. The law, in most places on the planet is based on the of "tablets of hammurabi." http://www.womeninworldhistory.com/lesson2.html These are more "precepts" than hard rules. The laws, in general, aren't stiff - they are more malleable than most people think, and are a reflection of the society's attitudes, opinions and such at a particular time. Precedence, the whim of the supposed lofty knowledgeable judge, or the wind that blows through the minds of a jury of supposed peers, are the usual cornerstones of what is eventually decided. Mostly, it's based on opinion. My lawyer has a "great" attitude about the law... he thinks of it as having very little to do with morals or ethics. It's usually commerce. > Wasn't there an interesting case where Huey Lewis claimed > Ray Parker's "Ghostbusters" was a rip-off of "I Want A New > Drug..?" I had heard that the judge had decided in favor of Huey because Huey had been approached before Ray Parker by the Ghostbusters people to write and perform them a new song "...just like 'I Want A New Drug.'" They apparently said the same thing to Ray. Of course this could be apocryphal. Thanx for your post. peace, albabe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 16:52:41 EDT From: Bob Rashkow Subject: June Carter/Beach Boys/Letter to Dad/Stolen "Kicks" NPR had Terry Gross' interview with the late June Carter from 1987 I think it was, and she had recorded a solo LP of Carter Family and June-Johnny stuff. She played her own version of "Ring of Fire". June was in her late 60s at the time, and she sang her own song with quite a lot of feeling and that little touch of country that she and Cash were known for collectively. The Beach Boys should definitely have a place in FA&F. Almost everything they took on between 1966 and 1970 or so was an astounding departure from their earlier music. Brian, Carl, Dennis and Mike all, each in their own way, in spite of all the problems, happily embraced the sunshine pop era, incorporating some terrific flower-power effects using numerous instruments, especially that blessed organ and sitars. (They also became more playful and free-spirited--I've always admired how far they were seemingly willing to go on tunes like "Little Pad" and "She's Goin' Bald," to mock their previous efforts good-naturedly!) Has anybody heard or do they remember "A Letter To Dad" by Every Father's Teenage Son (Buddah, '67)? I haven't--but I would kill for that record, being an intense collector of answer records. More stolen licks: Boyce & Hart on "I Wonder What She's......2" "yah-la-la-la-la-la" already used by the Raiders in "Hungry." Did The Beatles borrow "Nah, nah nah nah," etc. in "A Day in the Life" from the original version of "Hush" (Jackie Edwards if I'm not mistaken, popular only in England) or did Deep Purple take it away from the Beatles on THEIR version??!! At any rate, it could be another example. ....Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 09:59:44 -0000 From: Louis Subject: Re: Teri Nelson Group Guy Lawrence wrote: > Teri Nelson, Mary Thomas, Barbara Alston, Betty Cooper, > Ona Lee ... At least one of those names rings a bell. Hi Guy, I am very much into this type of girl group sound, disco, Euro Disco, Motown, Holland Dozier Holland, Cameo/Parkway, Phil Spector, soul, rhythm & blues, northern soul, and bubblegum music especially (no negative connotations implied.) Now that I know that it is similar to "Simon Says," I will try to listen to the music of 1910 Fruitgum Company and any others I can find. Do you know Chee Chee and Peppy on Buddah records? They are fantastic also. Any other recommendations for me? I also love Silver Convention (Dance Bunny Honey, Acuestate Con Migo, Telegram), the Marvelettes (Seeing is Believing and Rainy Mourning), Martha Reeves and the Vandellas (Bless You, Love Bug Leave My Heart Alone, I Can't Dance to That Music You're Playing, Tear It On Down,) Patty Duke, Donna Loren, Sandie Shaw, Laura Lee, the Honey Cone, Tina Charles, Polly Brown, Abba, Diana Ross & the Supremes, the 70s Supremes, Gloria Jones, the Orlons, Dee Dee Sharp, the Three Degrees, Kim Weston, Brenda Holloway, Sisters Love, Archies, Partridge Family, Limmie and the Family Cooking, Roberta Kelly, the Chocolates, Xuxa, Timbiriche, Flans and Boney M among others. By the way Mary Thomas and Barbara Alston were in the Crystals. My website, The Girl Groups Fan Club, is at http://surf.to/girlgroups and I plan on redoing it soon. I am looking for any and all suggestions on content and format and redoing it. Thanks, Louis -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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