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Spectropop - Digest Number 674

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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)

There are 16 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: 3000 Miles
           From: Mikey 
      2. Re: the adorable Ellie Greenwich
           From: Artie Wayne 
      3. The Actionettes
           From: Jimmy Crescitelli 
      4. Tenuous 45rpm Link For Spector Collectors
           From: Tony 
      5. Death threats for playing the Shaggs
           From: Neil Hever 
      6. Re: 3000 Miles
           From: Artie Wayne 
      7. Spectropop Party In NY
           From: John Clemente 
      8. Jack Nitzsche At Spectropop
           From: Martin Roberts 
      9. re: Ben Raleigh
           From: Artie Wayne 
     10. Re: Name That Tune
           From: Bill George 
     11. Jerry Ganey/The Clouds/MGM Labels
           From: Peter Richmond 
     12. Re: Artie Wayne ("From The Inside")
           From: Lindsay 
     13. Songs by US songwriters for which there is no US original record
           From: Mike Edwards 
     14. Art and Dotty Todd
           From: Country Paul 
     15. Having Fun With Elvis On Stage.... on cd!
           From: Neb Rodgers 
     16. France Gall
           From: Tom 


Message: 1
   Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 09:17:27 -0500
   From: Mikey 
Subject: Re: 3000 Miles

Artie Wayne:
> Mikey......Very good observations!! I wrote "3000" Miles. Ed Silvers,  
> boss at Scepter records publishing....... he played it to Snuff 
> Garrett who promised to cut it with Gary Lewis but wound up cutting 
> it with Brian Hyland. It was my first time working with Snuff, Brian 
> and Leon Russell....I remember playing acoustic guitar.

Hey Artie, thats a really interesting story. Thanks for sharing. 
Do you remember if Hal Blaine played drums on 3,000 miles?


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Message: 2 Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 06:52:48 -0800 (PST) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: the adorable Ellie Greenwich Hey Mick......How ya' doin'? "You should've told me" was the only song I wrote with Ellie Greenwich. Danny Jordan, Ellie and I wrote it while she was waiting for her fiance Jeff Barry to pick her up for lunch. As far I know none of us attended the session. Yes....she was as adorable as everyone says....I haven't seen her in years but when I see her in my mind I can see her blonde bouffant hair with that little bow on the side. regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 10:09:50 EST From: Jimmy Crescitelli Subject: The Actionettes How might I audition to become an Actionette? Should I pass the no-doubt rigorous pre-selection process, would I have to re-locate? Please advise. ==Jimmy C.== -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 15:19:47 -0000 From: Tony Subject: Tenuous 45rpm Link For Spector Collectors A very tenuous link, but one that is of interest. 'The Trial", released in 1959 (I believe), is a novelty/break-in song written by Herb Alpert and Lou Adler. The artists/recordings used for the break-ins are .. The Shields, Jan & Dean, The Everlys, Little Anthony, Bobby Day, The Coasters, Bobby Darin, Jerry Wallace, The Elegants, Domenico Modugno and The Teddy Bears (To Know Him Is To Love Him). This record was also released on two different lables, listed as by two different artists, although it is the same recording, not a cover. Both records do have different B Sides though, just to add a smidge more confusion. Arch Records, #1607 is by Herb B. Lou and the Legal Eagles. The flip is also a Adler/Alpert composition 'Kiss Me', and is mainly instrumental but has a male voice, or two, saying 'Kiss Me' every few seconds. The second record is on Parkway, #801, and is credited to Jerry Field and the Lawyers .. writer credit remains 'Adler-Alpert'. The reverse of this is a straight instrumental, Easy Steppin', written by Jon Sheldon - Harry Land. Possibly the name change was to allow release on a larger lable, Parkway, whilst under contract to Arch .. but then why change the B side? Anyway, I'm posting this info as I think the Teddy Bears inclusion may be relevant to a few. Tony -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 15:21:13 -0000 From: Neil Hever Subject: Death threats for playing the Shaggs Spectros, In my years as a college Deejay at WMUH in Allentown I received death threats on the phone for playing Black Flag, JFA, Hüsker Du (Land Speed Record) and THE SHAGGS! Destruction of our broadcast antenna was also threatened at times but nothing ever happened. Talk about music with impact! What separates The Shaggs from folks who try to create bad music purposely is their sense of earnestness. It is the kind of spark frequently lost on more accomplished musicians. Cheers, Neil Hever -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 07:52:23 -0800 (PST) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: 3000 Miles Mikey: > Hey you remember if Hal Blaine played drums on > (Brian Hyland's) 3,000 Miles? Mikey......The session was done at Mercury B, in NYC....they used a NY studio drummer but I don't remember who. regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 11:38:00 -0500 From: John Clemente Subject: Spectropop Party In NY Hello All, A Spectropop party in NYC sounds great. Finally, I may be able to make one of these events, thanks to Sheila. By the way, Sheila, are you planning to put out another issue of Cha-Cha Charming? Please let us know. Regards, John Clemente -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 18:18:25 -0000 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Jack Nitzsche At Spectropop Update news: To satisfy a few requests, Record Of The Week is the Paris Sisters "My Good Friend" (Reprise 0511 B). Follow the link to read the review while you listen to the track. Both are great. The new radio jingle is the now familiar KHJ call-sign played jazz style. Thanks to Ian & Eric the complete Crawdaddy article is now in 'Writings On', plus a P.S. from Denny Bruce on both the Hitweek and Crawdaddy interviews. Enjoy, Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 08:21:03 -0800 (PST) From: Artie Wayne Subject: re: Ben Raleigh Mick....My friend and longtime collaborator,Ben Raleigh was in his mid-forties when I started writing with him in 1961. He wrote the lyrics for "Laughing on the outside,crying on the inside","Wonderful,Wonderful", "She's a fool", "Tell Laura I Love Her", "Love Is A Hurtin' Thing", Deadend Street" and "Midnight Mary" He liked to work with young composers...who could write the music of the times for his timeless lyrics....Jeff Barry...Mark Barkan ....David Lindley and myself. I saw him a few weeks before he passed away in' 97.....we talked about old times.I asked himwhich one of his songs made the most money? He laughed and said....."Scooby-Doo..Where are you?" [which he wrote in 20 minutes!] You never know.....You just never know. regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 13:33:22 EST From: Bill George Subject: Re: Name That Tune > Actually that's impossible. All notes are relative, to most > of us humans without perfect pitch. No specific note is any > different than another note except in it's relationship to > another. >Call it a lucky guess, then? Aw, you caught me in a moment >of self-amusing hyperbole. But I definitely do recall a >small handful of very impressive stabs at naming that tune >in two notes. I recall that the contestants got a few clues before having to guess the tune, so it sometimes enabled them to "name the tune" in one note. Or even no notes. They simply knew the song from the clues. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 19:13:23 -0000 From: Peter Richmond Subject: Jerry Ganey/The Clouds/MGM Labels Mick Patrick: > Am I to assume, Peter, me old mate, that you have an MGM > reference book? One of Michel Ruppli's wonderful tomes, > perhaps? If so, maybe you could look up the line-ups for > some other MGM girl groups, as a treat for the obsessives > amongst us? Here's just a few from the top of my head: Yes I do have "The MGM Labels Vol 2" book, I know the virtues of buying such an expensive book have been debated here previously but I have to say the book has been worth every penny of the 100 pounds it cost. The information contained is staggering and what I find so amazing is the amount of unissued tracks that were recorded and must be still in the vaults at MGM. I did look at "The Mercury Labels" book by the same author (Michel Ruppli) last year while at the National Sound Archive at the British Library and found an unissued Paramours (Bill Medley group pre- Righteous Brothers) track from 1961. Any Spectropop members who would like any information from the MGM book, please feel free to contact me offlist. The line ups of the 4 groups you mentioned are not listed unfortunately,but the information it does list is below; >Jackie Burns & The Bo-Bells MGM K13182 63-XY-739 He's My Guy (purchased title MGM # assigned in NYC, Oct 14 1963) 63-XY-792 I Do The Best I Can (purchased title) >The Paper Dolls MGM 13766 NYC, March 31, 1967 102688 You're The Boy I'm Gonna Marry (arr Bob Stone) 10289 Cause I Love You >The Whispering Winds MGM K13373 65-XY-496 First Hundred Years 65-XY-499 My Baby >The Models MGM 13775 Arr by Larry Fallon Mayfair Recording Studios, NYC June 28 1967 102766 Bend Me Shape Me 102767 In A World Of Pretty Faces >However, I did read recently that Jerry Ganey, of the Bill >Medley-produced "Just A Fool" fame, was previously a member >of the Clouds. But I bet you knew that already! :-) I had always thought that Jerry Ganey was the featured vocalist on the Clouds records but have never been able to confirm this. In fact I have been unable to find any information on Jerry Ganey, which is surprising as he has two massive Northern Soul anthems in "Just A Fool" and "You Don't Love Me". Where did you read this Mick? I do have another Jerry Ganey single, produced and arranged by Dennis (Woody) Woodrich who might sound familiar to Spectropopers, he was the arranger of the Medley produced tracks on the "You've Lost That Lovin Feelin" album. Jerry Ganey & The Break Of Dawn Bi Truckin 12345 Just For Us Like I Have Never Loved Before I would be interested to know if any Spectropopers have any info on Jerry Ganey or Chris Morgan, another singer that Bill Medley produced a couple of singles for in the late 60's. I haven't been able to confirm that the Chris Morgan & The Togas that recorded 2 singles on Challenge in the mid 60's, is the same Chris Morgan. Peter Richmond. Righteous Brothers Discography -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 20:38:45 -0000 From: Lindsay Subject: Re: Artie Wayne ("From The Inside") Artie Wayne, Artie Wayne... At last I've remembered why that name was familiar! Artie, you wrote a wonderful song called "From The Inside", which was a Top 10 hit here in Australia in 1975 by Marcia Hines. (It was recorded in Sydney, produced by Robie G. Porter, whom old Aussies like me still think of as Rob E. G., chart-topping guitarist.) I've always loved this song, and I still have the 45. There's just one thing has always driven me nuts: there's a key line I've never been able to make out on this recording: "Go on girl, you can do it, It's only life, there's nothing to it. It's ????????????????????????????????" My best guess is "It's just tough seeing through it from the inside", How close am I? Cheers, Lindsay in Oz -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 21:30:18 -0000 From: Mike Edwards Subject: Songs by US songwriters for which there is no US original record A few weeks' ago, Mick Patrick asked: > Who recorded the original versions of their (Goffin/King) > compositions "What You Got" and "So This Is How It Feels"? > I am aware of the British versions by the Eccentrics and > the Countrymen, respectively. Surely previous American > renditions exist. I wonder if these songs belong to a very rare genre, namely "songs by US songwriters for which there is no US original". Artie Wayne has just told us that "Queen For Tonight" was commissioned directly for Helen Shapiro. I had always thought that Goffin/King shipped "Show Me Girl" directly to Herman's Hermits as a reward for their good works on G/K's "I'm Into Something Good". Same goes for Tony Jackson's "Stage Door", although this time they felt sorry for him as "Love Potion #9" was a big US hit after he left the Searchers. It may come as a surprise to Spectropoppers but there was likewise no original US version of the Dennis Lambert co-penned, "Do The Freddie". In this case, not only the song, but the whole backing track was shipped to the most maligned group in other people's sleeve notes, Freddie & The Dreamers. So, let's start a list of "songs by US songwriters for which there is no US original". We have seven to start us off: Eccentrics/What You Got Countrymen/So This Is How It Feels Helen Shapiro/Queen For Tonight Hermans' Hermits/Show Me Girl Tony Jackson/Stage Door Freddie & The Dreamers/Do The Freddie Anita Harris/London Life (but then, Bacharach-David are a little different aren't they?) Mike Edwards -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 17:27:50 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: Art and Dotty Todd While searching for info on Art and Dotty Todd, I tripped across a note on the Exotica list about an LP by "Lounge performers Art and Dotty Todd, 'Chanson d'amour,'...on Beverly Hills records with orchestral backing by exotica god Don Ralke and the Tokyo symphony orchestra. Great stuff." Are these the Era and Dart tracks, or is there more out there? If not, are they available on LP or CD? Is this any good? Is it similar to the sounds they're known for? Incidentally, shows no listings of any LPs or CDs, and Google only paid off with the note above. However, with so many singles on so many labels (Era, Dart, RCA, Diamond, Signet, Decca [not on their list, but I have one], even Abbott), it's hard to believe they were never collected on CD. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 23:17:52 -0800 (PST) From: Neb Rodgers Subject: Having Fun With Elvis On Stage.... on cd! Here's a reissue of one of my favorite Elvis albums ever. There's almost no actual songs on here, just the King's in-between patter while he's onstage. I personally think he missed his calling as a stand-up comedian! -Neb Title: Having Fun With Elvis V.01 Artist: Presley, Elvis The original! IMPORT $29.95 Catalog #: WWHFE0001x Collectors' Choice Music -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 08:46:33 -0000 From: Tom Subject: France Gall Hi again, Does anyone know where it would be possible to attain video clips of France Gall from the '60s or '70s? I love that French girlpop by the likes of France Gall, Francoise Hardy and Claudine Longet. Very hard to find videoclips of them though. Thanks in advance, Tom -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------

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