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Spectropop - Digest Number 446



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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
                   http://www.spectropop.com/Jamie.htm
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There are 18 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Wirtz/Anka
           From: Ian Chapman 
      2. Re:  Finders Keepers
           From: Jeff Lemlich 
      3. Do Your Own Thing!
           From: Jeff Lemlich 
      4. Re: Wes Farrell
           From: Ted L 
      5. Paul Stefen (with Paul & The Pack)
           From: Jeff Lemlich 
      6. The Fruitgums ARE back
           From: Bob Rashkow 
      7. Re: Curt Boettcher Ads
           From: Doug 
      8. GOODEES, GEORGETTES, CHIFFONS
           From: mick patrick 
      9. Re: GOODEES, MERCY
           From: Patrick Rands 
     10. Georgettes "Little Boy"
           From: Martin Roberts 
     11. Re: Curt Boettcher Ads
           From: Neb Rodgers  
     13. Gurls
           From: simon white 
     14. Re: Finders Keepers & 'The Dalton Brothers'
           From: Martin Roberts 
     15. Re: Gurls
           From: Gene Sculatti 
     16. Re: GOODEES, MERCY
           From: Billy G Spradlin 
     17. Re: Gurls
           From: mick patrick 
     18. Re: MERCY
           From: Jeff Lemlich 


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Message: 1
   Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 00:28:30 +0100
   From: Ian Chapman 
Subject: Wirtz/Anka

Phil wrote:

> Thanks for playing this Ian, and I agree entirely. I think
> there's something Mark isn't telling us! Song's a bit of a
> rip-off of "It Doesn't Matter Anymore" don't you think?

Yes, it is. But I'm glad you agree about its "Wirtz-ness"!!  
It immediately put me in mind of "Count The Stars" when I first 
heard it.

How about it Mark - did you leave any tracks behind after you 
stopped working with Auntie?! :-)

Ian



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Message: 2 Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 20:00:04 -0400 From: Jeff Lemlich Subject: Re: Finders Keepers Martin Roberts wrote: > Thanks for Finders Keepers info. More questions on > this group though: I have two FK 45's on UK Fontana. Both A > sides inferior cover versions, Irving Martin produced. One, > Madara/White/Gilmore's "Sadie (The Cleaning Lady)" and the > other, Greenwich/Barry's "Friday Kind Of Monday" (this one > got a US release). There is also (I think) a US group on > Challenge. The group on Challenge is the UK group, who had hooked up with Gary Usher. I've often wondered about that too, since "Lavender Blue" was a hit in Miami in 1966. Jeff Lemlich Please visit the Florida music forum at: http://pub64.ezboard.com/blimestonelounge -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 20:30:51 -0400 From: Jeff Lemlich Subject: Do Your Own Thing! > Frank Youngwerth wrote: > My current favorite is on a WLS aircheck from around '67, > with a pained Neil Diamond soundalike singing, "Yesterday > they took away my window/But I still see things my way/Don't > let them tell you what you can't do/Do your own thing today" That was a real song, released (in a somewhat different version) by Brook Benton as "Do Your Own Thing", on Cotillion 44007. The writer, producers, and arrangers credits all go to Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller! Jeff Lemlich Please visit the Florida music forum at: http://pub64.ezboard.com/blimestonelounge -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 17:50:48 -0700 From: Ted L Subject: Re: Wes Farrell Don wrote: > Wes Farrell passed away some time ago. Hopefully, his career > will be discussed at length in the forthcoming VH1 bubblegum > rock documentary (due to his work with such acts as The > Partridge Family and The Rock Flowers). The songwriter/producer died on Feb 29, 96 in Fisher Island, FLA according to allmusic.com. I'm familiar with his pop/rock productions vita, but I did not know of his efforts in the soundtrack field. I recently learned that he did some production work on the commendable "Midnight Cowboy" soundtrack. Does anyone know which "James Bond" theme he produced? Ted L. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 20:20:06 -0400 From: Jeff Lemlich Subject: Paul Stefen (with Paul & The Pack) Bob Rashkow wrote: > Jerry Osborne also credits this SAME RECORD to one 'Paul > (Stefan) and The Pack'. Same serial # and all. Did Jerry O > make a geniune error, or did Hildebrand go by various other > pseudonyms? Checked under Paul Stefan and there are references > to "Roland Stone", "Ronnie Premiere" et al. Paul Stefen was a real rock 'n roller from Milwaukee, with no connection that I'm aware of to Ray Hildebrand. He had a group called "The Apollos" that did include Roland Stone on some recordings. (Roland Stone was really Roland Oeller, the man behind "Jingle Jump" by Danny Peil and the Tigers). Sam McCue of the Legends (the band on Ermine, Capitol, Warner Bros., Parrot, Thames, and Date) plays rhythm guitar on "You" by "The Apollos & Paul Stefen" (Cite 5008). McCue later played guitar for the Everly Bros. and was in the 70s band Crowfoot. I don't have the 45, but I see a listing for: Tower 4261 PAUL & THE PACK - Hiding From Myself/Dr. Goldfoot's Iglo According to author Tom Tourville, this was Paul Stefen and Gary Myers, and is a dj copy only. > First one to get back to me gets my sealed > souvenir container of "Great Shakes" from 1966 - Just kidding, But does it really stand up to a straw! Jeff Lemlich Please visit the Florida music forum at: http://pub64.ezboard.com/blimestonelounge -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 01:15:11 -0000 From: Bob Rashkow Subject: The Fruitgums ARE back Thank you to Frank Youngwerth and Kim Cooper for clearing it up for me - the Fruitgum Company (Jeckell Marcus et al) are REALLY ONLINE. Minus Mark G but that's okay, thanks for the additional info on him too! Funny I said Jekyll and who?! - because I didn't know (learn lots of stuff every day on Spectropop) that they were Jeckell and the Hydes first!!! Frank the "K" surname you're referring to is probably Kasenetz & Katz, the driving force behind SUPER K Productions, the Teem label, and so many other bubblegum artists. They also dabbled in singing and playing as on "Quick Joey Small." Sad to hear that the great Wes Farrell is gone. I loved the work he did with the SENATE groups, Every Mother's Son, and many others. Ian Chapman wrote: >...you're right, absolutely no connection with the > Alley Cat Pipkins... Does this mean there might actually be a female singing on Puddin' n' Tain??!! (Could it be - Bobby Sheen doin' the falsetto thing?!) The Jamie tributes are extremely moving. I too so love "Walking In The Rain" by the Ronettes - another fabulous Spector production. When Jay Black remade it early in '70 I had no idea in the world that it had been done infinitely better and more emotionally involving by Ronnie and the girls. Speaking of girl groups is there any info online about the Southern group The Goodees on H.I.P. ("Condition Red", the poor man's Leader Of The Pack - but a great relic just the same) Keep On Dancin'! Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 01:48:30 -0000 From: Doug Subject: Re: Curt Boettcher Ads Jeffrey Glenn wrote: > Jason, do you have these, [Curt Boettcher Ads] > and if so, can you post them to musica? > Enquiring minds would love to hear these! The Curt Boettcher "Misty Mirage" CD on Poptones contains "Wearing Levi's (acoustic)", "Stretch Levi's", and spots for Bank Americard and Crown Paper Towels. In addition, the Millennium "Again" CD on Poptones includes another version of "Wearing Levi's". Doug -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 07:57:09 +0100 (BST) From: mick patrick Subject: GOODEES, GEORGETTES, CHIFFONS Original message from Bob Rashkow: > Is there any info online about the Southern girl group the > Goodees on H.I.P. Their "Condition Red" is a poor man's > "Leader Of The Pack", but a great relic non the less. Bob, "Condition Red" is the opening track on the Where The Girls Are CD (Ace CDCHD 648). You can view the track list and read more about the CD at http://www.acerecords.co.uk In the meantime, here's a paragraph from the booklet: Petulant white girls, screeching motorbike brakes, dead boyfriends and church organs were not generally the stuff of records coming out of Memphis in 1968. So quite what possessed Stax staffers Don Davis and Fred Briggs to produce such an out of character is unknown. The lucky Goodees - Judy Williams, Kay Evans and Sandra Johnson - got a Top 50 hit out of it. Original Message from Ron Buono: > Does anyone know if the GEORGETTES' "LITTLE BOY" ever > surfaced on a girl group comp CD? I would love to find it! > Thanks. But I can't trace this cut on a CD, not even on a b*&tl%g. Maybe some kind soul will play it to musica for you. Unless he's working late at his flower emporium. Original message from Jimmy Botticelli: > ...the CHIFFONS' radio spot for H.I.S. clothing begs the > question: Do the H.I.S. fascismions fit the broader-bodied > boomers of today? And you, Jimmy boy, can speak for yourself! MICK PATRICK (34 waist, 36 inside leg) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 09:49:51 -0400 From: Patrick Rands Subject: Re: GOODEES, MERCY > Original message from Bob Rashkow: > > Is there any info online about the Southern girl group the > > Goodees on H.I.P. Their "Condition Red" is a poor man's > > "Leader Of The Pack", but a great relic non the less. Mick wrote: > Bob, "Condition Red" is the opening track on the > Where The Girls Are CD (Ace CDCHD 648). > You can view the track list and read more about the CD at > http://www.acerecords.co.uk I'm glad the Goodees came up! In fact I just listened to their album this weekend. My question is pretty simple: are the Goodees and the Goodies the same singing group? Btw their album isn't half bad in a half bad kind of way and their singles are even better. Their version of He's a Rebel is horrendous fun, if that is indeed possible. If one were to wipe the vocals off, we'd have a Booker T. styled instrumental in the first order. :Patrick P.S. As a side note: I heard Mercy singing a fetchingly horrible version of Hey Jude and am curious now. Why two albums of the same name on different labels? Did they have the same artwork too? Is all their stuff as indifferent and curious...or worse? Any thoughts or information on Mercy? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 20:53:20 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Georgettes "Little Boy" Mick Patrick wrote:- >Maybe some kind soul will play it to musica for you. >Unless he's working late at his flower emporium. Afraid this is one (of many) musical bouquet that is missing from my humble store. Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 19:29:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Neb Rodgers Subject: Re: Curt Boettcher Ads Jeffrey Glenn: > Jason, do you have these, and if so, can you post them to musica? > Enquiring minds would love to hear these! I have a couple of these. They were included on Curt's 'Misty Mirage' cd, as put out by the Poptones label. This disc has jingles for Bank Americard, and Crown Paper Towels as well. I haven't tried sending anything to musica yet, but unless someone else has them (paging Mr Stec!) I'll give it a shot. Neb -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 21:57:38 +0100 From: simon white Subject: Gurls As Spectropop has gone a bit gurlie again recently, can anyone give me any information on any of the following wimmin? The Hi Fashions Dian Hart Judy Stone and a token male member....with a slightly gurlie name.... Kenny Karen? I also found I have an AWFUL version of ' A Touch Of Velvet ' by The Second City Sound. Never was such a group of dis-interested people committed to vinyl. Committed maybe, vinyl no. How many versions do we think there were? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 22:43:30 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Re: Finders Keepers & 'The Dalton Brothers' Thanks to Jeff Limlich for supplying Finders Keepers, Challenge AND Gary Usher info. I had forgotten reading about this in Stephen J McParland's Usher odessy. So on the evidence of their two Fontana releases, an average UK pop combo got to work with two of the West Coast's musical giants. Wonder if they ever recorded with Spector?! Answering my earlier question, the FK's Alec Noel 45 was on CBS (UK). Anyone care to play it to musica? Talking of musica, Paul Underwood kindly played The Dalton Brothers' "Lottin Dottin Da Da". Beside giving me a couple of fretful hours I really enjoyed it. But where did it come from? Was Paul spotted running away with armfuls of Goldstar recording tapes? Or is there a more innocent explanation? Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 17:01:40 -0700 From: Gene Sculatti Subject: Re: Gurls Simon White: and a token male member....with a slightly gurlie name.... Kenny Karen? Kenny Karen, I believe, was a solo (male) act on Columbia. Can't recall any of his sides, though I think I might have a 45. (Or am I thinking of Kenny Dino, who was on Columbia and Musicor?) Gene Sculatti Director of Special Issues, Billboard magazine -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 01:31:04 -0000 From: Billy G Spradlin Subject: Re: GOODEES, MERCY > P.S. As a side note: I heard Mercy singing a fetchingly > horrible version of Hey Jude and am curious now. Why two albums > of the same name on different labels? Did they have the same > artwork too? Is all their stuff as indifferent and curious...or > worse? Any thoughts or information on Mercy? I believe the group was only signed to Sundi (dist by Jamie) for just one record. When "Love Can.." hit big the group bolted to Warners. So Sundi padded out a quickie album with lots of filler by a female group called "Love". Frank's vinyl musuem has the LP on display at: http://www.franklarosa.com/vinyl/Exhibit.jsp?AlbumID=58 Billy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 07:20:22 +0100 (BST) From: mick patrick Subject: Re: Gurls > Original message from Simon White: > ...can anyone give me any information on any of the following > wimmin? The Hi Fashions...Judy Stone... Hi, Questions, questions :-) The HI FASHIONS, aside from their single on Dynovoice, supplied backing vocals on the debut LP by LAURA NYRO. They appear to have worked exclusively with the great producer/arranger HERB BERNSTEIN. I suspect they may have also waxed using the monicker VALA REGAN & THE VALARONS. JUDY STONE was Australian. Her version of "AND THE TROUBLE WITH ME IS YOU" wasn't as good as the original by BERNADETTE PETERS. Now, THERE'S someone worth discussing. MICK PATRICK -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 07:29:57 -0000 From: Jeff Lemlich Subject: Re: MERCY Patrick Rands wrote: > I heard Mercy singing a fetchingly > horrible version of Hey Jude and am curious now. Why two albums > of the same name on different labels? Did they have the same > artwork too? Is all their stuff as indifferent and curious...or > worse? Any thoughts or information on Mercy? The story is so convoluted and confusing, especially at 3 in the morning! But in a nutshell... Mercy was a real group, self- contained, with male and female vocals. The band members had played in some pretty well-respected Florida garage bands, including the Early Americans and Surprize (whose "I Will Make History" is on one of the "Psychedelic States Florida" albums). Sundi was run by Gil Cabot, a man more than one musician has described to me as "a scoundrel". Well, sometimes the language used is stronger. Sundi used to be Paris Tower, my favorite label in the world. Paris Tower was a custom label... Sundi was an attempt to go "legit". Cabot lucked out when the producers of the "Fireball Jungle" movie liked Mercy, and wanted to use them, and feature their then-unknown single "Love Can Make You Happy". The first pressing was not distributed by Jamie... it was a local Tampa label. The song took off in Florida, and Jamie picked it up for national distribution. (Actually, there are three pressings of the "Love Can Make You Happy" single - local Sundi, Jamie-distributed Sundi, and flexi-disc! I have the bloody flexi!). The song was a hit, and Mercy (the real band) did some recording in Miami with Brad Shapiro & Steve Alaimo, and a lot of people liked the results. Apparently Gil Cabot only had the rights to the single, but he thought he also had the rights to the name Mercy. So when the mixed group bolted and Alaimo & Co. negotiated a Warner Bros. deal, Cabot (so the story goes) took some girl singers into the studio, brought in Mighty Manfred & The Wonder Dogs to back them, and had an instant "Love Can Make You Happy" album to compete with the Warner Bros. album. Everyone got mad, called each other names, and had hissy fits, but in the end it really didn't matter because Mercy's cover of Pete Drake's "Forever" really didn't sell, and the follow-up (a soft pop remake of Proctor Amusement Company's "Heard You Went Away") did even worse. The final Mercy single appeared in 1970 on Henry Stone's Marlin label, and didn't even chart locally. Sundi saw minor chart action in 1970 with a song about the Kent State killings, "Monday In May" by the Third Condition (a band comprised of former members of the 2/3rds from Daytona Beach). Sundi moved operations to California, released records by George Wallace Jr.(!), Jimmy Velvet, and Alex Brown, whose Northern soul anthem "I'm Not Responsible" stared me in the face once and I didn't buy the sucker! Bugger! Jeff Lemlich Please visit the Florida music forum at: http://pub64.ezboard.com/blimestonelounge -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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