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There are 13 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Mousie & the Traps
From: Hans Huss
2. An invitation to Spectropoppers
From: Artie Wayne
3. Re: "A Christmas Gift" versions
From: Steve Crump
4. WABC to play 60s music again
From: Paul Rusling
5. Re: workin' it with the Fourmost Authority
From: Regina Litman
6. A Tribute To Ted Jarrett in Nashville Saturday
From: Paul Urbahns
7. Re: WABC to play 60s music again
From: Phil X Milstein
8. Re: Mousie & the Traps
From: Regina Litman
9. Re: Mousie & the Traps
From: James Holvay
10. Re: WABC to play 60s music again
From: Regina Litman
11. Re: Max Crook & his Musitron
From: Wes Smith
12. Re: Mousie & the Traps
From: James Botticelli
13. Re: Mousie & the Traps / Van McCoy Music webpage
From: Julio Nino
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 15:03:39 -0800 (PST)
From: Hans Huss
Subject: Re: Mousie & the Traps
Mick Patrick wrote:
> I've had a record on the brain all day - "It's All In The
> Way" by Mousie & the Traps. [...] How's the original b-side,
> "How About You"? What year was the record released? I can't
> tell if they're black or white, not that that makes a
> difference. In fact, that pop/soul crossover sound appeals
> to me no end.
Hi Mick, It's circa 1968, I would say. 'How About You' is an
expensive Northern dancer. A sound clip can be found here:
http://www.theseoldshoes.com/sounds/martin/mousie.rm
Also, it's on Goldmine's "Wigan Casino 30th Anniversary" (GSCD
163). It's listed in Soul Harmony Singles, so it's most likely
a black group.
Hasse Huss
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 15:49:56 -0800 (PST)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: An invitation to Spectropoppers
How ya'll doin'? Last week Allan Rinde finished updating my 40
page website. Many of my illustrious friends from the era, that
continues to live in our hearts, have dropped by to sign my new
guestbook. I would be honored if you would drop by and sign it
as well.
http://artiewayne.com
Thanks and regards, Artie Wayne
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 22:42:29 -0000
From: Steve Crump
Subject: Re: "A Christmas Gift" versions
JJ wrote:
> I have a US Philles (PHLP 4005), mono, yellow/red label copy
> of the "A Christmas Gift" LP. I've never seen a copy of the
> original, light blue label w/black printing, and I wonder how
> many copies were pressed of that version? Are the blue/black
> pressings very rare?
Steve D wrote:
> I bought the original album when it was first released in 1963 &
> it came with the yellow & red label. I don't know if it was ever
> released with the blue & black label.
My copy of the Christmas Gift LP has a blue/black label. I bought
it in a mail auction held by a oldies record store about 20 years
ago (maybe more). It was "still sealed" when I got it, but I
wasn't sure if the seal was from 1963 or a more recent vintage.
Cheers,
Steve from Australia
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 23:56:04 +0000
From: Paul Rusling
Subject: WABC to play 60s music again
Some of our transatlantic cousins may like to know that WABC is
going back to playing GOLD / 1960s Top 40. Unfortunately it's
only once a week on Saturday evenings. They switched from top
40 to talk back in the early 1980s, and WCBS FM took the crown
but a few months ago they fired all the Good Guys, etc, and
swapped from 60s GOLD to 'Jack', which has blown their audience.
I'm not sure when the Saturday night stuff starts on WABC -
reception isn't that good over here in England!
Paul Rusling
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 02:06:04 -0000
From: Regina Litman
Subject: Re: workin' it with the Fourmost Authority
Phil X Milstein wrote:
> > ... Does anyone know anything about the Fourmost
> > Authority?
MopTopMike:
> I'm pretty sure they were a UK or European combo. "Dance,
> Dance" was also recorded by The Chartbusters, on the Bell
> label, released prior to the F.A's version.
Are you sure you're not confusing them with a group called The
Fourmost? They are represented in the wonderful 9-CD British
Invasion series (each CD sold separately, although some may
have been boxed together in gift or promotional sets) put out
by Rhino in the early 1990s with a Lennon-McCartney song called
"Hello Little Girl". That's the only song I know by them, but
it was released 3 1/2-4 years before "Dance, Dance" by the
Fourmost Authority.
I did a Google search on "Dance, Dance" and "Fourmost Authority"
a few days ago, after this subject was first brought up here,
and I saw some references to possible Boston roots. They were
about a year too early for the "Beantown Sound" that was applied
to Orpheus, the Ultimate Spinach, and the Beacon Street Union.
Regarding the timing of the Chartbusters' version, I thought I
remembered it being played on the radio in their adopted
hometown of Washington, DC, late in the summer of 1967, while I
remembered the one by the Fourmost Authority being played
earlier that same season. It's possible that WPGC, the station
that eventually played the Chartbusers' version, didn't play it
right away when it first came out, perhaps waiting for some
national action on it. When that didn't come (perhaps because
of the competing cover by the Fourmost Authority), the station
may have finally decided to play it, but it was a case of too
little, too late.
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 22:22:05 -0500
From: Paul Urbahns
Subject: A Tribute To Ted Jarrett in Nashville Saturday
This is short notice, but the Nashville newspaper announced a
tribute concert to R&B pioneer writer Ted Jarrett this Saturday.
Ted was quoted as saying, "I'm producing and directing the
tribute to myself," he says. "I have an ego as big as Main Street
(which runs by his front door), but I keep it hid."
A good story on him was when his *Love, Love, Love*, as recorded
by Webb Pierce, was atop the charts. So he stumbled into a Decca
outlet and "I told the lady there I had written the No. 1 country
record. She looked at me real funny. If she's still living, she's
probably still telling about this little colored cat who said he
wrote *Love, Love, Love*." Several of Ted's records later became
Northern Soul hits in England.
Here is the link. Unfortunately I have something else going and
can't attend: http://tinyurl.com/conz8
Paul Urbahns
Radcliff, Ky
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 20:45:47 -0500
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: WABC to play 60s music again
Paul Rusling wrote:
> Some of our transatlantic cousins may like to know that WABC is
> going back to playing GOLD / 1960s Top 40. Unfortunately it's
> only once a week on Saturday evenings.
That schedule might be in deference to 'ABC's late '60s/early
'70s era, when Cousin Brucie would alternate the station's usual
Top 40 fare with oldies (which, of course, weren't really all
that old yet), back and forth throughout his entire Saturday
evening show. Just a kid closing in on my adolescence at the time,
tuning in religiously to that show provided my first exposure to
many of those oldies, the vast majority of which I STILL get
thrills from to this day.
Dig,
--Phil M.
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 02:16:20 -0000
From: Regina Litman
Subject: Re: Mousie & the Traps
Mick Patrick wrote:
> ... Mousie & the Traps ... released originally on Toddlin' Town
> ... Would I be right in assuming that they were a sister group
> of the all-male Mouse & the Traps?
There was a folk-era Bob Dylan sound-alike song called "Public
Execution" by a singer calling himself Mouse in 1966. I later found
out that he was a frontman for a group called the Traps. In the
1980s, I bought a Rhino Nuggets cassette containing a song I had
never heard before called "Maid of Sugar, Maid of Spice" by Mouse
and the Traps (this may also be on one of the Rhino individually
issued "Nuggets" CDs of the late 1980s or in the "Nuggets" 4-CD
boxset of the 1990s). The Mouse of this group was apparently the
same Mouse who did "Public Execution". His name was something like
Ronnie Weiss, and he came from Texas.
So, if Mouse and the Traps were from Texas, and the all-female
Mousie and the Traps were from Chicago, they are probably not
brother/sister groups.
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:40:05 -0800
From: James Holvay
Subject: Re: Mousie & the Traps
Mick Patrick:
> Here's a question - several, actually - for girl group experts,
> especially those with a special interest in all things Chicago-
> related. I've had a record on the brain all day - "It's All In
> The Way" by Mousie & the Traps. My copy is a recent(ish) UK
> reissue on the Joeboy label (with an unrelated b-side by Joseph
> Moore), but it was released originally on Toddlin' Town 8204.
> The song is credited to Holvay. Would that be S'popper James
> Holvay? Who produced the record? How's the original b-side,
> "How About You"? What year was the record released? Does anyone
> know anything about this group? I can't tell if they're black
> or white, not that that makes a difference. In fact, that pop/
> soul crossover sound appeals to me no end. Do photos of the
> group exist? Would I be right in assuming that they were a
> sister group of the all-male Mouse & the Traps?
Mick: I wrote and produced the group back in 1965. Mousie and
The Traps were Latino girls from the north side of Chicago.
The group consisted of 2 sisters and their cousin. The "B Side"
was "How About You". I do have a picture of the group. It blows
my mind that 40 years later, it ends re-issued in the UK.
Thanks for asking.
James
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 02:42:04 -0000
From: Regina Litman
Subject: Re: WABC to play 60s music again
Paul Rusling wrote:
> Some of our transatlantic cousins may like to know that WABC is
> going back to playing GOLD / 1960s Top 40.
There's an article about it at:
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/story/370453p-315131c.html
(I found this link in a message that was posted on the message
board at www.iaisnd.com - a Neil Diamond web site - earlier today.)
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 08:17:28 -0000
From: Wes Smith
Subject: Re: Max Crook & his Musitron
Mick Patrick wrote:
> I just searched the S'pop Discussion Forum Archives for the
> words "Max", "Crook" and "Musitron" and found these hits:
> http://tinyurl.com/ceche So I guess there are quite a few
> of you who would be interested in the CD that has been the
> soundtrack to my working day today, "The Sounds Of Tomorrow"
> by Max Crook and Scott Ludwig. Read more about the CD here:
> http://www.cherryred.co.uk/rpm/artists/varioussounds.htm
> Are any of the recordings Max released as "Maximilian"
> available on CD, I wonder?
I purchased a Max C.D. from his website 2 or 3 years ago and I
think it had both sides of his 45's on it.
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 06:23:08 -0500
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: Mousie & the Traps
Regina Litman wrote:
> So, if Mouse and the Traps were from Texas, and the all-female
> Mousie and the Traps were from Chicago, they are probably not
> brother/sister groups.
The male Mouse & The Traps later became in part if not wholly the
group that did "Lookin' For Some Tush", the guys with the long
long beards and sunglasses who's name escapes me at the moment...
Oh yeah, ZZ Top.
JB
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 14:03:09 -0000
From: Julio Nino
Subject: Re: Mousie & the Traps / Van McCoy Music webpage
Hola everybody,
Mick:
> I've had a record on the brain all day - "It's All In The Way "
> by Mousie & the Traps"...
I can´t help finding very sexy the name of this group. For some
reason it has excited me and it has sparked my curiosity. Maybe
it´s asking too much but I would love to listen to "It´s All In
The Way".
And changing completely he subject. I´ve been trying like an
insistent maniac to buy online a record in the Van McCoy Music
web page, and I´ve not been able to do it (of course, as I result
I became completely obsessed with that record, "The Complete
Starlighters and Van´s Early Years". I even dreamt the other
night that at last I managed to buy it. Yes I know that I´m rather
unbalanced). I e-mailed them, but I received no response. Does
anybody know if this webpage is operative anymore?.
Thanks.
I´m going to take my siesta.
Chao.
Julio.
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