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There are 13 messages in this issue.


Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Stax Power
           From: Artie Wayne 
      2. Re: WABC to play '60s music again
           From: Paul Oliverio 
      3. Re: Mouse & The Traps
           From: Andrew Hickey 
      4. Mike Clifford follow-up
           From: Dave 
      5. Orphelia McFall / Ophelia McCall
           From: Hans Huss 
      6. Re: Ron Marshall
           From: Artie Wayne 
      7. Top 10 Classic Rock Christmas Albums ???
           From: Bill Smith 
      8. Re: "Baby I Love You" alternates
           From: Pres 
      9. Joe Jones
           From: Bill Swanke 
     10. Re: "A Christmas Gift" versions
           From: Mark Hill 
     11. Re: "A Christmas Gift" versions
           From: Howard Earnshaw 
     12. Re: Mousie & the Traps
           From: Davie Gordon 
     13. Re: workin' it with the Fourmost Authority
           From: Davie Gordon 


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________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 09:47:16 -0800 (PST) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: Stax Power How ya'll doin'? I've been online with Spectropop for about three years, and I'm curious as to why I haven't heard as much about Stax records and artists as I have about Motown or Philadelphia International? They played such a major role in the evoloution of popular music, and it's time they get their Spectroprops! The Memphis sound intrigued me so much that Stax Records became the first stop on my publishing tour of the south. When I was general manager of Warner Brothers Music in 1970, my longtime friend and sometime collaborator, Steve Cropper, who co-wrote "In The Midnight Hour", "Dock Of The Bay", "Knock On Wood", etc., took me around his town, winding up at the offices and studios of the legendary record and publishing organization. The company occupied an old movie theater in the ghetto, with a markee that simply said STAX.The reception area was once the place where refreshments were sold, and the recording studio was where the movies were once shown. I was humbled to be in the same studio where Booker T. & The M.G.s, Otis Redding, The Mar-Keys, Sam & Dave, Wilson Pickett, The Barkays, Eddie Floyd, Johnny Taylor and Isaac Hayes made all of those mega-hits! I've always believed that every studio has its own flavor, due to the collective consciousness and spiritual vibrations from all those who have poured out their hearts and souls within its walls. This place was no exception. I walked around mesmerized with the sounds of the late Al Jackson, Jr.'s solid drumbeat running through my head. I even had the urge to yell out, "Play it, Steve!", but I restrained myself! Before I had to leave for my next stop, Muscle Shoals, Alabama, Steve invited me into the control room to hear some remixes he was doing on the late Otis Redding. It was a spectacular ending to a day I'll never forget. Regards, Artie Wayne http://artiewayne.com __________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 12:22:11 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Oliverio Subject: Re: WABC to play '60s music again Paul Rusling wrote: > [WABC] switched from Top 40 to talk back in the > early 1980s, and WCBS FM took the crown but a > few months ago they fired all the Good Guys ... Please don't get the impression that the "Good Guys" were from WABC, the New York radio station that fired Bob Dayton, on the spot, for playing "Happy Birthday Baby" on Pearl Harbor Day. WMCA, at 570 on the AM dial, was the home of the "Good Guys," such as Dandy Dan Daniels ("...especially you size 9" was his outro) and resident hipster B. Mitchell Reid. I was a proud owner of a Good Guys sweatshirt. Besides Bruce Morrow -- still cousining on satellite radio -- WABC had Dan Ingram, the master of the seven-second wit, and Scott Muni, who hightailed it for WNEW-FM where he was no longer subject to WABC's extremely limited playlist. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 22:26:36 +0000 From: Andrew Hickey Subject: Re: Mouse & The Traps James Botticelli wrote: > The male Mouse & The Traps later became in part if not wholly the > group that did "Lookin' For Some Tush", the guys with the long > long beards and sunglasses who's name escapes me at the moment... > Oh yeah, ZZ Top. I think you're confusing Mouse & The Traps with The Moving Sidewalk, Billy Gibbons' old band. Googling on both bands finds a Lenny Kaye essay that mentions them in consecutive sentences, and that's about it. Both were also Texas bands, and seem to have been part of the same scene. But according to http://www.cyserv.com/lsbk/projects.html, Mouse & The Traps consisted of: Dave Stanley: bass Jerry Howell: keyboards Ken "Nardo" Murray: drums Bugs Henderson: lead guitar Ronny "Mouse" Weiss: guitar and vocals -- DUMB ANGEL HAS UPDATED 7/11/05! - Little Brian In Smileland http://dumbangel.keenspace.com A webcomic about Smile -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 21:41:47 -0000 From: Dave Subject: Mike Clifford follow-up The recap: Mike Clifford is alive and well. I read Mike the many e-mails I received about him, and he was really, really touched. He wanted me to post his mailing address in case anyone wants to reach him directly (as he doesn't have email). He's at: Mike Clifford P.O. Box 27761 Los Angeles, CA 90027-0761 Please direct all inquiries, including all requests made via the e-mails last week, directly to him. He seems quite amenable to requests. Cheers, Dave -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 15:11:00 -0800 (PST) From: Hans Huss Subject: Orphelia McFall / Ophelia McCall Martin Roberts wrote: > Playing as the new Jack Nitzsche Record of the Week on the > home page is Orphelia McFall's "He's Never There" (Saturn 403), > a fairly rare record and a very good one. Be there or be > square, man: Indeed a very good record. The flip, 'Did You Know', is just as good - though without the Jack Nitzsche input. 'Did You Know' was composed by one Yolanda Garlio; this could be the same Yolanda who sang with the Charmanes on Smash, and the Castanets on Tandem - though perhaps not with the Naturals on Kimley; Steve Propes and Galen Gart have her surname as (possibly) Campos. My copy is on the Concert Room label, Concert Room CR 373, with the address, 6644 Hollywood Blvd, and Jack's surname as "Netzche". Same matrix number and type font though. I've a hunch this could be prior to the Saturn release. Does anyone know? In 1962, as Ophelia McCall, she had one release on Little Star, 'One Heart, One Love' / 'Every Every Night' (Little Star 110) - no doubt every bit as elusive as Dorothy Berry's 'The Girl Who Stopped The Duke Of Earl' on the same label, though 'One Heart, One Love' can be found on Volume Four of Crime Dog's "Bring Back Yesterday" series (Crime Dog 104). Has anyone heard these sides? Hasse Huss -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 07:50:51 -0800 (PST) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: Ron Marshall Mark...How ya'doin'? It's nice to hear from you after all of these years. I'm sorry to hear about your father's tragic passing...he was a very talented man. I never met him before our first rehearsal for "What Can I Wish You My Son?", nor saw him after you both recorded your vocals at ODO studios, but I recognized his his voice on commercials for years after. I remember that your father wrote the song from the perspective of a soldier that had been killed in Vietnam...who came back to talk to his young son as he said his evening prayers. You both gave real performances and showed a love for each other in the studio that made me a little envious...since I never knew my own father. Wishing you the best, regards, Artie Wayne http://artiewayne __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 18:15:55 -0500 From: Bill Smith Subject: Top 10 Classic Rock Christmas Albums ??? It can be safely said, the only thing rock critics agree on is Spector's "A Christmas Gift To You" is the best Christmas album. Not to this guy: http://holidays.about.com/od/entertainment/tp/top10_christmas.htm -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 12:46:31 -0000 From: Pres Subject: Re: "Baby I Love You" alternates While the Ronettes' record is what I meant, I must say that Andy Kim's version is another record that I cherish. But there is something about this SONG that really works for me because I love the Dave Edmunds version, the Cher version AND the Ramones version. With three out of five produced by Spector, it's not too surprising, I guess. What does surprise me is how many copies of each I own. On vinyl alone I have about 15 copies of the Ronettes 45, 6 copies of the Cher 45, 2 Andy Kim 45s, and 4 copies of the Ramones. Whenever I see a copy of this record (by anyone, it appears), I can not leave it. The only other record/ song that I've noticed also causes this... er, affliction, is the 12" of Burning Up by Madonna (around 20 copies and counting. I don't know what to call this problem but I wonder if any of you out there share it? I think Dave Monroe might... pres -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 17:55:07 -0600 (Central Standard Time) From: Bill Swanke Subject: Joe Jones LOS ANGELES (AP) Joe Jones, a musician-turned producer who sang the 1961 R&B hit "You Talk Too Much" and went on to become an independent music publisher and advocate for black artists' rights, has died. He was 79. Jones died Sunday in a Los Angeles hospital of complications from quadruple bypass surgery, said his 40-year-old son Dwayne Jones. The New Orleans native, who in recent years fought colon and prostate cancer went into the surgery in good sprits. "The last month of his life, I spent the majority of my time with him," Dwayne Jones said. "He just said to keep the music going." Jones took to music when he was very young. After serving in the Navy during World War II, Jones trained at the Juilliard Conservatory and then went on work as a band leader at a university in New Orleans, said wife Marion Jones 67. Eventually Jones broke into the red-hot New Orleans music scene as a big band leader for the likes of B.B. King, playing the piano and arranging music. "So he started singing. He always had a band," his wife said. "He started going on the road, so one day he just decided to sing this song ... 'You Talk Too Much.'" The song was a hit, but Jones felt he failed to see any real money from the sale of the record and became transfixed with learning about the business side of the recording industry. "He was broke, so that's when he started learning about the music business, learning about contracts," Marion Jones said. "He started teaching others the same thing." At the time, Jones also became more focused on developing other artists. He's credited with discovering the Dixie Cups trio, who sang the 1964 hit Chapel of Love," among other artists. He was also the lead singer on the Pentagons big hit "To Be Loved". In 1973, he moved to the Los Angeles area and started an independent music publishing business. He also began devoting himself to help black artists recoup the rights to their works since many hadn't known much about recording contracts and unwisely signed away their royalties in the 1950s and 1960s. "All he did was fight for the rights of his black fellow musicians for them not to be ripped off," Marion Jones said. In addition to his wife of 49 years and son Dwayne, three other sons, three daughters, 10 grandchildren and three great- grandchildren survive Jones. A fourth daughter died 15 years ago. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 00:26:59 -0500 From: Mark Hill Subject: Re: "A Christmas Gift" versions JJ: > I have a US Philles (PHLP 4005), mono, yellow/red label copy > of the "A Christmas Gift" LP. I wanted to ask about STEREO versions of "A Christmas Gift." My first vinyl copy was the 70s WARNER BROTHERS reissue in FULL STEREO. I later found a CUTOUT(!) of the Apple pressing in mono. I'm not a MONO purist and I found the Warner LP to sound WONDERFUL in stereo. It's the one I've listened to for almost 30 years. If not true stereo, it sure doesn't sound electronically channeled. I also have an 8-Track of the STEREO 2-LP "Spectors Greatest Hits" set on WARNER that I hope to transfer to CD someday. No one could convince me that any mono versions sound better. To me the official CD of "Gift" sounds muddy in comparison. How were the excellent Warner stereo mixes created? 10 or more years ago, I recall seeing a CD of "Christmas Gift" being advertised by one of the prominent oldies CD sellers in Goldmine, noting that it was in STEREO. Unfortunately, I didn't order it then and haven't seen it since. Wondering if that was a legitimate CD and if it's still available? What label would I search for? If you haven't heard these stereo versions, seek them out. Dr. Mark Hill -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 07:03:53 EST From: Howard Earnshaw Subject: Re: "A Christmas Gift" versions This has been issued several times in the UK also, the first being on the London label, second time around was on the Beatles' Apple label, both fairly hard to come by now I believe. Later issues on Ronco or was it K-Tel?? and another even more recently........ Howard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 13:59:55 -0000 From: Davie Gordon Subject: Re: Mousie & the Traps Mick Patrick wrote: > I've had a record on the brain all day - "It's All In The > Way" by Mousie & the Traps. [...] How's the original b-side, > "How About You"? What year was the record released? I can't > tell if they're black or white, not that that makes a > difference. In fact, that pop/soul crossover sound appeals > to me no end. Hasse Huss: > Hi Mick, It's circa 1968, I would say. It's earlier than that - Billboard listed it as a new release in their July 23, 1966 issue - tipped as a prospective Hot 100 entry. Toddlin' Town seems to have set up as a pop subsidiary of One- Derful / Mar-V-Lus in 1966 issuing a handful of singles in the 8200 series then was quietly dropped. The label resurfaced in late 68 using a 100 numbering series issuing about three dozen singles before finally folding for good around '71. They had a few minor hits (Bull and The Matadors, Alvin Cash) but none of the records I've heard is particularly interesting. Thanks to James for the background info. on Mousie & The Traps - any chance of a scan of the photo :) Regina Litman wrote: > So, if Mouse and the Traps were from Texas, and the all-female > Mousie and the Traps were from Chicago, they are probably not > brother/sister groups. James Botticelli: > The male Mouse & The Traps later became in part if not wholly > the group that did "Lookin' For Some Tush", the guys with the > long long beards and sunglasses who's name escapes me at the > moment...Oh yeah, ZZ Top. Hi James, I think you're confusing Mouse and The Traps with The Moving Sidewalks - their guitarist was Billy Gibbons who formed Z Z Top with ex-members of The Warlocks. Some of the members of Mouse and The Traps went on to form a country-rock band called Rio Grande who had an album on RCA around '71. Davie Gordon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 14:19:16 -0000 From: Davie Gordon Subject: Re: workin' it with the Fourmost Authority Phil X Milstein wrote: > ... Does anyone know anything about the Fourmost Authority? MopTopMike: > I'm pretty sure they were a UK or European combo. "Dance, > Dance" was also recorded by The Chartbusters, on the Bell > label, released prior to the F.A's version. James Botticelli: > Something tells me that Mike is right. Weren't Ola and the > Janglers also on GNP Crecendo and weren't they from Sweden? GNP licensed in some records from the UK and Europe but not until a few years later - the Ola and The Janglers releases were in 1969. The Fourmost Authority version of "Dance,Dance" seems to be the original - it was listed as a new release in Billboard for May 6, 1967. The Chartbusters' was listed as a new release in Billboard for Aug. 12, 1967. The Fourmost Authority had another single on GNP 403 issued around 12/68 but credited to The Foremost Authority. The A-side was a Dick Torst song "Childhood Friends" which had been recorded earlier by both The Yellow Payges (on UNI, 6/68) and Teddy and The Patches (on Tower, 7/68). I'm sure the group were American - the full writer credits for "Dance, Dance" and its b-side are Ronald Craig Karp, Lloyd Whelchel and Theron Holloway. Those songs are the only credits on BMI for Whelchel and Holloway but Karp has well over a hundred songs to his credit. It looks as if he became primarily a songwriter for country singers like Tanya Tucker, Gary Stewart and Marie Osmond. I haven't checked yet but wasn't there a Craig Karp involved with The Lyrics - a Californian garage band on Era and GNP - they did a brilliant snotty rant called "So What ?" which was on one of the very early Pebbles comps. Davie Gordon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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