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Spectropop - Digest Number 1798

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There are 9 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Roy Orbison, R.I.P.
           From: Rob Pingel 
      2. Re: English electronics
           From: Phil X Milstein 
      3. Corrections and various topics
           From: Clark Besch 
      4. The Chiffons' "Now That You're My Baby"
           From: Donny H 
      5. The Montanas' "Uncle John's Band"
           From: JK 
      6. Re: Musitron and other thoughts
           From: Michael Thom 
      7. Vinnie Jay Martin now playing in Musica
           From: Tom D 
      8. Re: "Je T'aime" etc.
           From: Dave Monroe 
      9. Talent needed for a live event
           From: Country Paul 

Message: 1 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:15:09 -0000 From: Rob Pingel Subject: Roy Orbison, R.I.P. Sometime in the late 70's I was surprised to see that Roy Orbison was booked to play the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium. At that time he had been off the charts for at least 10 years. His ultimate comeback was still years away, and the appearance didn't cause any heat except for the die-hards. I purchased a ticket, but had very low expectations. The S.M. Civic is a small venue (3,000 seats), and I figured this would be a concert on the cheap; Roy and a small pick-up band. Even so, I wasn't going to miss Roy Orbison under any circumstances. "An Evening With Roy Orbison" was a revelation. No expense spared. I immediately noticed that the stage set-up included a string section as well as a glut of other instruments; a full-blown production. The first act was a comedian named Jerry Clowers who literally killed an urban audience with his country humor. The second act was an excellent bluegrass band (forgot their name)that were more than worth the price of admission. Then Roy. Oh my God. String section, background singers, full band, and a great percussion player who looked like he was having the time of his life. To everyone's amazement, Orbison had not lost one iota of power or majesty in his voice. He stood in the middle of the stage, and blew everyone away with one devastating mini-opera after another. Each sounded exactly like the recorded versions, only BIGGER. Midway through the concert came an intro guitar strum followed by the familiar "Your baby doesn't love you...anymore." Of course, I knew the song "It's Over", but this live version was the first time I fully grasped its full power and glory. As Roy wove his way through this pop masterpiece, I distinctly remember feeling like I understood what it must be like to be in heaven. For those precious moments, life simply could not be any better. "Setting suns before they fall, They call to you that's all, that's all." I forgot to mention that the house was only 2/3 full. Can't imagine that Roy or anyone else made a dime on this wonderful, memorable evening. Last night I was watching television, and noticed the new campaign for Blockbuster's "no more late fees." Some clever advertising agency picked "It's Over" to bring home the corporate message. An ersatz Orbison soundalike can be heard butchering the crescendo. Nearly broke my heart. Rob Pingel -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:15:15 -0800 From: Phil X Milstein Subject: Re: English electronics John Stewart wrote: > The book has numerous tales from sessions of the period and the > struggles of later-famous teenage guitarists to sound like Chuck > Berry or Scotty Moore often with only a cheap Spanish guitar, a > WWII RAF pilots microphone and a radiogram. And yet the English came up with the Marshall amp. Was that just a matter of the corner on post-War austerity having finally been turned? --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:59:57 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Corrections and various topics I've got all kinds of thoughts reading the latest batch of SPop posts. I'll try to mention those I found most important. First and foremost, Michael Thom corrected me that Max crook DID NOT write "Bumble Boogie" as I had mentioned. I was given the info on Max Crook by another person who had told me about Max and didn't check his info. Crook claims on his website that he came up with the arrangement in 1959 and was surprised by the B Bumble hit with a similar arrangement. Sorry I didn't check my facts. James Botticelli wrote: > Wow...This IS news. A few collectors around here have the Atco single > from 1975 called "If It Wasn't For The Money" by Nanette Workman. > This is the first thing I've ever heard about her. So she's Canadian, > eh? Tres interessant. Around July, 1976, my brother brought me back a single from Canada after visiting there. He said it was the hottest record at the time there. It was "The Queen" by Nanette Workman (Big Tree 16065). Considering it is disco, I was not overly thrilled, but it was ok, I guess. Still got it. Tom Diehl wrote: > Amazing! I never thought something like that Royal Guardsmen tune > could exist. Tom "Ronnie Dove for President" Diehl That bloody "Buck toothed beaver" has risen again! Funny, but while doing radio chart research this week, I noticed CJCA in Edmonton, Alberta Canada charted "Squeaky" at #26 up from 36 on December 18, 1966. On January 22, 1967 it was #1, but as "Snoopy vs the Red Baron"! Both were on Quality. My guess is that word got out about the Snoopy version and it quickly was re-thought to issue the proper version. That's probably why it's hard to find. Which would you choose? A "funny lookin' dog" or a "buck toothed beaver"?? Maybe there was opposition to using "Baron von Richtoven" in the song and not Snoopy?? About your Ronnie Dove commentary, we need "a little bit of heaven" in this world. I'm for it! Is my mind deceiving me, or do I remember recently seeing a Ronnie Dove 45 in the top 5 R&B hits in a Cash Box or Record World list?? Julio NIño wrote: > In the mid seventies Serge directed a film titled also "Je T´Aime > ... Moi Non Plus", starring Jane Birkin Besides the sounds that, later, Donna Summer took to new heights, I always thought it was a cool second coming of "A Whiter Shade of Pale"! Not sure why, but that thought reminds me about Lieutenant Pigeon's UK #1 hit, "Mouldy Old Dough" being just like Bill Black's "White Silver Sands". When Pigeon's hit was out, I could never place what song it reminded me, oddly enough. S.J. Dibai: > Just noticed that Roy Orbison's MGM albums have been reissued on CD > by Edsel or some related label. I may have mentioned before that the MGM soundtrack of "Fastest Guitar Alive" has been on Cd for decades. Why? Never understood why they put that out before Roy's MGM Lps, yet I had to buy it. It has one of my fave Roy songs that says so much. Not sure I ever heard him sing it in the film tho. "There Won't be Many Coming Home" is just an amazing piece that unfortunately is still a real theme for today. GREAT song sang in a very heart felt way . One more thing to comment on. In our recent David Jones Colpix ramblings, another Canadian chart find popped up last night. On a 6/5/67 CKXL Calgary station's chart, #5 was "Theme for a New Love" by David Jones and even more surprising, his "My Dad" was an extra. Even more surprising was the CKXL 7/3/67 chart which listed "My Dad" by David at #1!! #15 was "....New Love". Never seen "My Dad" on a 45, maybe Canada only?? Anyone know? Thanks for the time, Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:23:39 -0000 From: Donny H Subject: The Chiffons' "Now That You're My Baby" I just received my "Where The Girls Are, Vol 6" yesterday and it's a great CD. I was wondering why the Chiffons' "Every Boy And Every Girl" is in mono; the 1970 LP is stereo. Also, the recent posting to musica from the same LP of "Now That You're My Baby" is in mono, although for some reason I think that one sounds better in mono. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:29:38 EST From: JK Subject: The Montanas' "Uncle John's Band" Hi ...I'm hoping someone out there can help me obtain a copy of the above single and B side released on MAM records, in any format. I was the Montanas' road manager and am trying to put the releases onto CD which were never available and this is the one that I am missing. Appreciate any help. .....JK -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:58:42 -0600 From: Michael Thom Subject: Re: Musitron and other thoughts Clark Besch wrote: > Speaking of "Runaway", I was just informed that the inventor of the > Musitron, Max Crook, was from my hometown of Lincoln, NE. I was > wondering if Austin or any of the other "ringers" on our board might > have met him, or have any stories about Max and that amazing sound > he invented. I never knew what it was, but I knew it was unique. A > buddy calls it the first "electronic music"! Predating Max Crook's musitron were the earlier "popular" electronic compositions and recordings of Tom Dissevelt and Kid Baltan (a pseudonym for Dick Raaijmakers), who recorded for Philips beginning in 1957. Some of their recordings were collected on various compilation LPs on Philips and related labels, all now quite rare, including "Song of the Second Moon," issued on Mercury's Limelight subsidiary. Disselevelt's "Whirlwind," retitled for the US compilations as "Sonik Re-entry," was recorded in 1959 and was used bu Tulsa's KVRO-TV as the theme song for its weekly "Fantastic Theater" show in the 1960s. Disselvelt also recorded the 1963 Philips LP, "Fantasy in Orbit." Last fall, a boxed set of their recordings was issued by Balta Music ( ), compiled by Kees Tazelaar, also a composer of electronic music, with Raaijmakers. It is quite an amazing compilation, consisting of 4 CDs, 7 booklets, charts, etc. Kees had access to the master tapes and both composers' private tape collections. Those familiar with "Song of the Second Moon" will notice a difference in sound on some tracks, though, because in the US, Philips added reverb and other effects. It's an essential collection for fans of early electronic music. Max Crook's musitron may well be the first electronic instrument used in a rock song, though! > He also wrote "Bumble Boogie" and is listed as a co-writer on > "Runaway". Actually, "Bumble Boogie" was written by Jack Fina in 1933, while he was a member of the Freddy Martin Orchestra. He copyrighted the song (actually his arrangement of "Flight of the Bumblebee") in 1946. I have Fina's original version of the song issued on a Mercury single in 1957 with a hot pink label, no less! If I recall correctly, Kim Fowley was shown as the composer on first pressings of the single by B. Bumble and the Stingers, but later pressings were corrected to show Fina as the composer. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 03:57:46 -0000 From: Tom D Subject: Vinnie Jay Martin now playing in Musica Another cut from my "Diamond Mine"..... I know little to nothing about Vinnie Jay Martin. What I do know is, when I got this single in the mail and played it, i knew that the Spectropop crowd would love it. The song is Whenever You Need Me (Diamond D-235-A). My copy is a canadian pressing after they had switched from Apex to Diamond in Canada for curious if it might have charted may have even bubbled under on the american charts. It's from late 1967/early 1968. It was arranged by Chuck Sagle, who also produced it with Stan Shulman for Viking Production Co. I've heard the name Chuck Sagle before....but no other name is familiar to me...anyone got any info on these people? It appears as this was his only release....shame...i really like it...i hope the rest of you do, too. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:10:46 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Monroe Subject: Re: "Je T'aime" etc. Artie Wayne wrote: > It always disturbed me that so few original French > records ever became hits in the U.S... "Je T'aime" > by Serge Gainsbourg and Jane Birkin... "Je t'aime ... moi non plus" has got to be one of the most readily available 60s french tracks out there, on any given format, but let me know if you still don't have it one way or another. The original Brigitte Bardot duet has already been mentioned, but there's a nice trip-hop cover by Barry Adamson (ex-Magazine, Bad Seeds), as well as an English-language version by Mick Harvey (ex-Bad Seeds as well; there are two MH Gainsbourg-translation albums, the first is great, teh second, well ...) ... But I've been surprised in the past couple of years to find white label RCA demo copies of Sylvie Vartan's "I Made My Choice" (sorry, can't recall the title of the French version). And tehre's her English-language Gift Wrapped from Paris LP, which features material that I know of no French analogue for. There have also been a couple of English-language Francoise Hardy LPs, there, mostly featuring translations of her Francophone hits which--and I know there are differeing opinions on this here--lose some of their charm in translation, but her "Catch a Falling Star" (I have a 45 on Pye), of which I know of no French version, is fantastic. Any other attempts to break ye-ye, French pop, whatever, in the UK/US? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:14:09 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: Talent needed for a live event This crossed my desk today: --------- TALENT NEEDED FOR LIVE EVENT MLC is doing a preliminary search for talent for a LIVE event in April. We're looking for: a CHUCK BERRY impersonator, live singing or lip-sync. a LITTLE EVA impersonator, live singing or lip-sync. an ELTON JOHN impersonator, live singing and piano or lip-sync. Please email if you fill the bill! ---------- I don't know if any of us do any of this, or know someone who does (I don't). Mike Lemon Casting is arguably the leading casting company in Philadelphia, PA. I know nothing further about the event (i.e., where it is, who it's for, what it pays, etc.), but if you *really* can do this kind of work at a convincing level, contact Mike Lemon directly via e-mail and mention that Paul Payton suggested you do so. Anything further about this should probably be off-list, although you now know everything I know. Good luck! Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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