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Volume #0373 January 19, 2000
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Tapping the biggest undeveloped field in the automatic music business
Subject: Women In Music Awards
Received: 01/18/00 8:14 am
From: Carol Kaye
To: Spectropop List
I have to share something with you. There is a full-page
ad in Billboard about our Women In Music Touchstone Awards,
on Feb. 1st luncheon at the Marriott Marquis Hotel in
NYC, and I shared this with many of my colleagues and
friends.
Billy Strange, super composer, wonderful friend and great
guitarist (solo on Beach Boys Surfin' USA, his own big hit
of "Goldfinger" etc.) wrote something back. Mind you Billy
is no slouch at arranging either: Tenn. Ernie Ford, Elvis
Presley, Nancy Sinatra's greatest hits, so many other
dates, and played on some of Phil Spectors dates too....he
arranged the "Baby The Rain Must Fall" and this is what he
said in his message:
>>>>Dear Carol,
I couldn't be more pleased for your upcoming honor if it
was being bestowed on me.
You are REALLY deserving of this award. And the finest
electric bass player in the entire world. Not to mention
your great jazz guitar work.
I can't tell you what a pleasure it has always been to
record with you in my rhythm section, knowing that your
fantastic feel would permeate and drive the entire
orchestra to strive to do their finest work.
Thanks again my dear friend.
Your Boss,
Billy Strange
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The full-page Billboard ad is the 1/22 issue, pg. 23, and
lists the women who are getting the award besides myself:
Odetta, Monica Lynch, Mary Jo Mennella, Barbara Skydel and
posthumously, Marie St. Louis. I am honored to be with such
great women.
Carol Kaye
http://www.carolkaye.com/
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Subject: essential listening - soft pop
Received: 01/19/00 2:07 am
From: Levin Lo
To: Spectropop List
All of this talk about soft pop and sunshine pop fuels my
curiosity to no end. Could somebody kindly create an
essential listening list for these genres, with regards to
compact disc releases? I'd really appreciate it.
levin lo
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Subject: Little Anthony
Received: 01/18/00 8:14 am
From: Kingsley Abbott
To: Spectropop List
Jimmy B queried the inclusion of Little Anthony within
Sunshine Pop - I would have done too! However, if you can,
give it a listen. "I'm Hypnotised" was a November 1967
issue on Veep 1278. The song was co-written, and probably
produced by Teddy Randazzo, and really does work as
sunshine pop. It got a release in England in 1998 on an
EMI 25 track budget compilation (72434 95486 2 6)
imaginatively called "25 Greatest Hits". It includes
things from "Tears on my Pillow" thru all the fine big
soul/pop ballads to this other little gem.
Following on the "What do we call it debate?", it seems
that we're saying that Sunshine Pop was the US 60s Ba ba
stuff, and that Soft Rock takes a wider definition both
before and after that. I'm happy with that!
Hello to Bobby Lloyd after a long while - Still got the
gas money???!!!
Kingsley Abbott
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Subject: the Pillsbury Doughboy in that Nehru
Received: 01/18/00 8:14 am
From: DJ JimmyB
To: Spectropop List
In a message dated 1/17/0 5:18:59 AM, you wrote:
>But as usual, the labels certainly jumped on the
> (ill-fated) bandwagon. How? By trying to sell
>what was essentially adult contemporary pop music dressed
>up in Nehru collars and love beads.
Splitting yet more hairs, isn't the sound you refer to
actually the "Now" Sound where old-timers try to put a
snappy "rock 'n' roll" beat to standards and contemporary
MOR tunes? I think of Bob Thiele on the cover of a late
6T's ABC LP (the title of which escapes me at the moment)
where his photo graces the cover dressed in a Nehru jacket
singing and playing on songs like "Jet Me To 'Frisco". And
Bob--at the time well over 30 and NOT on a low fat diet--
looks like the Pillsbury doughboy in that Nehru
...Jimmy Botticelli/Poppin' Fresh
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Subject: Hey! Ba-Ba (Reebob)
Received: 01/18/00 8:14 am
From: Jamie LePage
To: Spectropop List
jake tassell wrote:
>I actually like a lot of Ba-ba-ba-da Generation type discs
>(I'm also a very big fan of 'Hey Hey Hey!' records too -
>never heard a bad one, but that's another mood and genre...
How do you feel about 'oi oi oi' records? Never heard a bad
one, but then again never heard one period. What is oi?
Nevermind. Better left for the neo-punk rocker list. ;-)
>Not sure if the 'Phil'-umentary is going to be shown in
>the UK. Either way, let's hope it's not yet another one
>where they round up anyone who ever crossed swords with
>the guy and then waste one hour and thirty minutes pouring
>bile, acid and sewage over his career, his methods, his
>marriage, his character and his records in his eternally
>conspicuous absence (these arguments always miraculously
>vapourise when they have to play the records though!)...
Yes, I know what you mean! That documentary you refer to
with Rodney Bingenheimer was made a long time ago, though.
Since then, Spector has become even more guarded. He rarely
licenses his music for synch use at all, especially when
the subject of the visual element is biographical. If you
saw the Sonny & Cher U.S. TV docu-drama a while back, you
may have noticed that every time they showed Spector in
studio scenes, they didn't use Spector-related music; The
only exception being I Love How You Love Me (which in the
drama Cher sang as Spector's "stand in" guide vocalist
before her own record debut). Of course, Spector didn't
co-write that one, so he was powerless to stop its use (at
that time anyway!).
>Also how the *@%£**@ did Enya creep into all this???!!!
Sort of the same way Cher did!
Jamie
n.p. Kites are Fun - The Best of Free Design (Varese Sarabande)
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Subject: Re: Phil and Enya
Received: 01/18/00 8:14 am
From: Chuck Limmer
To: Spectropop List
Buffalo Bill sez:
<< And as for whoever it was who put Phil Spector and Enya (I
mean, ENYA!?!?!?!) in the same sentence....jeeeez!! Just
don't ever do it again, or I will have to inform a couple
of my friends in the poor side of town that some legs need
to broken, ok? >>
Tobias:
This is excerpted from Tim White's 11/25/95 interview with
Enya in Billboard:
"Since 1982, her collaborators... have been producer Nicky
Ryan and his lyricist wife, Roma, who met Enya in 1979 when
Ryan was managing Clannad... 'It was Nicky who asked me to
join Clannad,' says Enya... 'I loved Nicky's wonderful
concepts of the layering of vocals, and Roma had wonderful
stories from Irish mythology... my background was in
classical music. Yet Nicky's influences were totally
different! He was a fan of Phil Spector and the Beach
Boys... ' "
Y'know what? It's all music, after all.
Chuck Limmer
n.p. Nik Kershaw, _15 Minutes_
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Subject: the world we now seek
Received: 01/18/00 8:14 am
From: DJ JimmyB
To: Spectropop List
In a message dated 1/17/0 5:18:59 AM, you wrote:
>It is almost as if The Rolling Stones, so called
>power trios and amphetamines never existed.
I think that's the world we now seek...let's face it,
electrified rock 'n' roll really has been dead a long time,
and the curtain is finally being lifted...My .02...
Jimmy Botticelli
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Subject: Re: Green Tambourine
Received: 01/19/00 2:07 am
From: Doc Rock
To: Spectropop List
In my home town of Lawrence, KS, there was a drive in
restaurant called the Thunderbird. I hung out there in 61-
66. We played the heck out of that juke box.
Then I went off to college.
I came back later and had a cherry Dr Pepper in my old
booth. While I was sitting there with my Dr Pepper, some
kids came in and put a quarter in the juke box. The first
song they played (3 for a quarter) was "Green Tambourine.
I felt so sorry for them. They had no idea the cool
records we had played on that machine earlier in the
decade, when they were in grade school!
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Subject: Rock Softly, Darling...
Received: 01/18/00 8:14 am
From: Keith D'Arcy
To: Spectropop List
Hi All,
Here we go...
Nat Kone wrote:
>>I tend to go for the darker, moodier, slightly sad soft
>>rockers, and here are a few monsters:
>
>I'm not sure what you mean by this distinction but with
>the exception of a couple of big names, this was a huge
>list of artists I had never heard of:
Basically, there is a trend to some soft pop and rock that
has a decidedly melancholy edge, kind of like the concept
of "deep soul," which is so absolutely linked to a
listener's reaction to the songs. I believe that there's
"deep soft rock." The reason people often discount soft pop
lock stock and barrel is because it's seen as soulless
stuff, but listen carefully to the Bergen White LP or to
some of those beautiful Mark Lindsay solo records and
you'll hopefully see what I'm getting at. That's the trick,
finding passion in all things, whether it's evident in
the record or if it's inspired from within.
>Harmony Grass is a great sunshine pop name. Same with
>Sounds of Feeling.
Just a thought; the Sounds of Feeling record is way to the
left of sunshine pop. It's kinda freakout vocal jazz with
some gorgeous pop moments. The Third Wave LP, anyone?
Jamie Le Page wrote:
>>"Move with the Dawn" by Mark Eric
>
>Is this from the "Midsummer's Day Dream" album on Uni's
>Revue label?
Yes, and what an LP! About 60% killer, 40% filler... which
is about the best you can expect from most soft pop LPs.
There's another one on it called "Just Passing By" which
is much more directly a sunshine pop track, and is
stunningly catchy. There's a great photo of Mark Eric on
the back of the LP and he's the ultimate tanned, square
jawed, dirty blonde California surfer dude-looking fellow.
Coulda been a contender.
>>"Sun" by Margo Guryan
Margo Guryan is an absolutely lovely person as well as a
super pop songwriter. She wrote "Sunday Morning" for
Spanky and Our Gang, then showed them up with her own
wonderful version on her sole LP on Bell, "Take a Picture,"
produced by one of those unsung genius producers we love,
John Hill. Seriously, the arrangements on this LP are
lush, intricate and occasionally (like on the song "Love")
very bizarre. Imagine a West Coast Pop Art Experimental
Band freak out blending perfectly with the gentlest
melodic pop song, and you're halfway there. Margo wrote
for lots of people in the mid to late 60's, like the
Lennon Sisters, Harry Belafonte, Marie Laforet (great
French vocal version of "Sunday Morning"), The Walter Raim
Concept, Mama Cass, Claudine Longet... there's a bunch more.
She now teaches jazz piano in southern California.
Here's a bit of sunshine pop platinum: the b-side to
Margo's single of "Sunday Morning" is a track called
"Spanky and Our Gang" which if you can find, will
completely flip your mind.
>>"That's Alright (I Don't Mind It)" by Alzo
>
>I've not heard this either, is this from the 1970 Bob
>Dorough produced LP on Ampex?
Yes, and what a lovely record, slightly country feel but
with the sweetest production. I'd like to find out more
about Bob Dorough's production work. I love his jazz vocal
LPs. There's also some earlier singles and an LP by Alzo
and Udine that are kind of the intersection between soft
rock and free soul (slightly Stevie Wonder-ish grooves
with harmony vox).
>>"There is Now" by Euphoria
>
>Is this from the Jerry Ross produced album on Heritage?
Yes, a nice folky but epic (I mean that in the same sense
that the Enya track probably is: surging, growing swells
of drama as it progresses) like Nina Simone's version of
"Pirate Jenny."
One last thought: anyone out there really familiar with
Gary McFarland's productions? That Wendy and Bonnie LP is
such inspired stuff, so gentle and yet so deep and full of
quirks.
Over,
Keith
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Subject: Re: Dum Dum Ditty
Received: 01/19/00 3:17 am
From: Ron Buono
To: Spectropop List
Hello All-
Recently saw discussion over the song "The Dum Dum Ditty"
by the Shangs/Goodees. I have a copy of this same song on
the Amazon label by a group called The Southern Belles.
Anyone else familiar with this one?
Thanks,
Ron Buono
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