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Volume #0354 December 7, 1999
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exciting full-color sketchbook look inside
Subject: Chapel date
Received: 12/06/99 10:23 pm
From: WASE RADIO,xxxxxt.org
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To John Frank:
The Dixie Cups' version of "Chapel of Love" was recorded
February 3rd, 1964 at Mirasound studios in New York.
Michael G, Marvin
WASE radio
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Subject: Re: Mrs. O'Leary's Cow?
Received: 12/06/99 10:23 pm
From: Brad Elliott, suxxxxxonline.net
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
Michael G. Marvin wrote:
> Fearing that the song had
> something to do with this strange phenomonon, he had most
> of the tape destroyed-except for about two minutes of it
> which languishes in the Capitol vaults.
Aah, mythology -- a wonderful thing, isn't it?
Actually, Brian doesn't seem to have destroyed any of the
tapes. The full session tape -- all 18 takes of it --
survives to this day, as well as several different
mixdowns from 1966 (including one with snap-crackle-pop
sound effects).
BTW, none of it is sitting in the Capitol vaults. Rather,
it's in the Beach Boys' own vault.
Surf's up!
Brad
P.S. -- Most of the "Fire" session tape was bootlegged
during the summer on the Sea of Tunes label's "Unsurpassed
Masters, Vol. 17" CD (subtitled "Smile Sessions"). If
you're into it, it's an interesting listen!
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Subject: "Fire" sessions - Brian Wilson
Received: 12/06/99 10:23 pm
From: Carol Kaye, caroxxxxxhlink.net
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Michael Marvin says:
>He assembled a small string section and had the studio
>janitor actually built a fire in a bucket-and placed the
>burning container in the studio.
I was on those dates of "Fire" at Gold Star with Brian
Wilson, Hal Blaine, etc. and certainly don't remember any
"fire" built in a bucket at all!
We did those things at Gold Star, and I was amazed at the
beauty and depth of sounds he wrote, especially of the
cellos that Brian wrote for....the eerie sounds they got
sounded just like fire engines going to a fire, and fire
sounds, etc., plus we all did the "rebuilding" sounds of
hammers pounding, Lyle Ritz operated the riveting machine
while I helped Gene Estes hold the wood while he pounded
it, others were having a ball sawing away, doing all kinds
of carpentry sounds.
Brian did bring firehats to the recording session, but
from what I remember he and Lyle Ritz were the only
ones who wore them, otherwise it was a usual record date
scene except for the after-date carpentry thing which we
got a lot of money for, and it was kind of fun, like group
therapy or something.
You're probably right about Brian getting a little spooked
about all the fires around LA, but as I have understood it
for years now (studio musicians talk about this stuff too)
from long ago:
There were 2 big fires around LA, like we have every year
with our santana winds. The 3rd fire was the biggie tho',
the Malibu fire which was the straw that broke the camel's
back....everytime Brian played his master, coincidentally
one of those fires started and the 3rd time was the start
of the Malibu fire.
I finally got word to him later (I think - not sure what
time-frame here) that I personally saw the Malibu fire
start.
I was driving in on the 101 from Camarillo (where I lived
for about 8 mos. then moved back to LA area) to master the
Joe Pass Guitar Style book recording I had just cut with
Joe Pass -- still available for his book btw, through my
catalog page:
http://www.carolkaye.com/books.htm
and rounded the bend at the Malibu turn-off, saw this wisp
of smoke in what turned out to be a little fire in a
trash-can and saw small truck w/camper-shell driving off
from this little rest-stop alongside the freeway -
evidently that it had just deposited some burning trash.
In my rear-view mirror - it was a long stretch of road
there, I watched in horror as I saw the winds just whip
that little trashcan fire up the side of the adjoining
mountainside so quick it probably took all of 2-3 seconds.
...I had a long-time sweeping view as it was fairly
straight, very long slight-curve road after that.
Couldn't believe it as I saw that whole mountainside catch
fire, and was hoping they would catch that fire, saw many
cars really slow down at that checking it all out --- the
winds were blowing HARD that day.
Went to master the Joe Pass Guitar Style tape of Joe's in
the Valley, and then late that day (around 4PM) barely got
through all the smokey haze to return home. It looked like
the whole world was on fire.
The next day I was out in my yard watering down my
roof-top, preparing to move the publishing company masters
and photos, other important documents were in my car ready
to evacuate at a minute's notice as the flames were coming
up to the top of the hill I lived on in Camarillo, coming
in the back way, and this was about 30 miles from where
the fire originally started, the wind was so fierce.
Ashes were raining down on my roof (house was 2/3 the way
down the hill, I had a little time but flames were licking
at the top of the hill, you could see them). And fire
companies managed to stop that part of the fire.
Somehow I do believe that Brian never realized his own
talent so much that he tho't (maybe) it was a direct
feeling of connection with God, Jaco Pastorius the
bassist also has been quoted speaking this way.
Don't forget, Brian never had the chance to really grow up
without all the hoopla surrounding the success of the Beach
Boys, his productions, etc. too....that's pretty difficult
and a lot of pressure on a young man, especially if he's
had a tough childhood.
But the rumors surrounding the way Brian recorded (and
thought of) his sessions of "Fire" should be laid to rest
once the truth is understood.
Great news: Earl Palmer is the first inductee into the
Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame under the new studio musician
category, "Sideman". Rumor has it that Hal Blaine is next
and yes, they've mentioned my name too. The first thing
that Earl said was: "we ALL should be in there for all the
60s recordings we ALL did created together", that's our
Earl, Congratulations Earl Palmer!!!
Best,
Carol Kaye http://www.carolkaye.com/
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Subject: Re: Mrs. O'Leary's Cow?
Received: 12/06/99 10:23 pm
From: Jamie LePage, le_pagxxxxxities.com
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
Michael G. Marvin wrote:
>In late 1966, Brian Wilson recorded a song called "Fire"
>...to me it made for uncomfortable listening.
Well, it certainly wasn't Surfin' Safari! I know what you
mean, Michael, but Fire and all the other unfinished
Smile masters are incredible recordings, thought by many
to be the peak of Brian Wilson's creativity. While it is
regrettable the project wasn't completed or released in a
timely fashion, I think thirty-some years after the fact it
is fairly safe to say that Brian was intent on evoking
moods, much as a composer for a film score might, e.g.,
evoking fear or discomfort from a fire. I simply adore
this recording. What makes it so eerie? The bass line.
Unbelievable.
Jamie
n.p. "Hicksville" (SOT17 disc one)
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Subject: Girl Group Stuff
Received: 12/06/99 10:23 pm
From: Stos, William, xxxxx.tyenet.com
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
Hi!
Some items to pass along to you Spectropopers. I've
started up a girl group discussion list on iname and some
people have finally found it, and there's a lot of
discussion brewing. Thought I'd pop over to this group a
see if anyone can contribute.
Does anyone know a 60s girl singer named Hannah Dean?
Aside from "Quite A Reputation," what else did the Chymes
record?
Also, one of the people on the list is putting together
tracks for two new Girls in the Garage comps, and two
other series. One new comp will feature virtually unknown
gals: any requests?
Thanks Spectropoppers!
Will
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Subject: Spectropop newsletter questions
Received: 12/02/99 1:23 am
From: Rob Wicker, RobtWxxxxxcom
To: spectxxxxxities.com
I have a few questions for Carol Kaye, Jerry Riopell and
any other subscribers that may have been at the "A
Christmas Gift For You" Philles recording sessions.
1. Were any other songs recorded, but not used on the
album?
2. Were there any songs on the album recorded by other
artists, but not used?
3. Do you have any memories from these sessions that stand
out that you would like to share?
If you participated in these sessions, thank you - your
contributions are enjoyed every year! - Robert
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Subject: Philles 115 "Then He Kissed Me"
Received: 12/04/99 6:08 pm
From: bruns, xxxxxedu
To: spectxxxxxities.com
I have a copy of The Crystals' "Then He Kissed Me" b/w
"Brother Julius" (Philles 115). The record is in mint
condition, and the original jacket (with the logo and
slogan "Tomorrow's Sound...Today!") is in good condition
(there are no rips or tears and no stains, though the paper
is faded somewhat). Inscribed on the inner groove of the 45
are the words "Phil + Annette," which I understand was
Phil's own signature --a dedication to his then wife which
appeared on a limited number of pressings. Is this correct?
Can you give me some indication as to how much this item is
worth, or where I might be able get an informed estimate?
Thank you
John Bruns
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Subject: Jimmy Webb solo albums?
Received: 12/06/99 10:23 pm
From: Poopdeck Pappy, wuxxxxxet.se
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
Jimmy Webb mentions in passing in his book that he's
recorded several solo albums. Aside of "Ten Easy Pieces",
what are the titles of the others, do they contain any of
his hits, and are they as good as his early stuff with The
5th Dimension and Glen Campbell?
T.
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Subject: Victorians
Received: 12/06/99 10:23 pm
From: Ian Chapman, iaxxxxx.net
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
Jamie wrote:-
> The liners to the recent comp CD Girls Will
> Be Girls mention that Marty worked with the Victorians
> for Liberty Records. (Can you elaborate, Mr. Chapman?)
Hi Jamie,
There's nothing I can really add to Alan's post about the
Victorians, although I do think anyone who has an ear for
Darlene Love's voice will agree that she's in there, even
though it's not her singing lead. Not too surprising,
given the Cooper/Nitzsche connections.
BTW, John Frank - you just made my day!
Ian
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