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Volume #0162 October 9, 1998
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New Improved Full Dimensional Stereo
Subject: Favorite Hook... A Fine, Fine, SUPERfine boy!
Sent: 10/07/98 7:10 am
Received: 10/07/98 7:35 am
From: Jimmy Cresitelli, JimmyXXXX@XXXom
The one that jumped to mind is probably not really a hook-- my
musical terminology lacks polish-- but I LOVE when the orchestra
does that little "skip" after every few bars during Darlene Love's
"A Fine, Fine Boy." It's churning away in rhythm, and then suddenly
all the instruments seem to stop/jump... am I making sense?
That song, by the way, is probably one of Phil's most underrated...
you never hear it discussed, but I'd have to place it in my Top
10. Darlene just wails away... excellent! And the song, in my
opinion, has the best spoken break EVER!
Subject: Red Bird
Sent: 10/08/98 12:09 pm
Received: 10/09/98 8:03 am
From: Frank Youngwerth, FMXXXX@XXXom
<<the rare Shangri-Las tracks like Dressed In Black are fantastic.>>
I've always really liked Shadow Morton's demo, included in the
Charly set as well. It's eerie in its own way. What a set!!
Subject: Red-Bird CD/the Shangs/Lesley Gore
Sent: 10/09/98 7:16 am
Received: 10/09/98 8:03 am
From: Mark Landwehr, mslXXXX@XXXbs.com
To: Spectropop List, SpectroXXXX@XXXties.com
Just received the Taragon Red-Bird/Blue Cat CD...Wow!!!
UNBELIEVABLE!! I was a little annoyed at first that some of the
highs had been rolled off these cuts, eliminating the "rough edge"
sound and some high-end percussion, but that did not deter me from
total enjoyment. The cuts were all very clean and, without a doubt,
original! A few comments on the Shangri-Las cuts:
"Leader of the Pack" has the missing second-verse line, as you all
have stated. I didn't care for the vocals being all in one channel
(the Mercury LP has them split), but the motorcycle sfx going from
one channel to another was super! And, the fade-out continues for a
second or two after the screeching-tire sfx subsides.
"Remember (Walkin' in the Sand)" has a super-long,
never-before-heard ending. Mary's voice hasn't got the usual echo
on it, but, hey, gang...she don't need no stinking echo!!!
"I Can Never Go Home Anymore" just about brought me to tears. A
BONUS - Before the last verse (as the stringed bridge ends), the
"narrator" says, "Listen...I'm not finished." NEVER have heard that
on any single, LP, etc!!! Mary's voice in the bridge ("No, I can
neverrrr, go home anymorrre") is not doubled, but its impact
remains...Amazing pipes!!
"Give Him a Great Big Kiss" contains another unheard-of piece in
the mix...The background chant "Tell me more, tell me more"
continues throughout the singing of the second verse, not just
between Mary's phrases - The concurrent singing of two different
lyrics at the same time is not very good professionally, but, from
an historical point, I love it! A few of the extraneous background
vocals heard on earlier mixes are not on this one, but so what?
I love this CD!! If anyone who is into this genre hasn't got this
one yet (I'm talkin' to you, John boy), get it NOW!!!...It will
put all vinyl versions to shame! And, thanks to all for turning me
on to it...
Getting that CD has provoked me to put together a little web page
(basically for my own amusement) listing all of the Red-Bird
singles/LPs - I've taken info from several different sources to
compile this discography, and if anyone can offer any corrections/
additions, etc., I would appreciate it...See http://
www.toltbbs.com/~msland/RBindex.htm for the Red-Bird Discography.
And, let's not forget a pretty good GG song by the Shangs from
their pre-Red Bird days..."Wishing Well' on Spokane (and later
Scepter) - A little rough around the edges, but better than much
of their RB stuff, and it even has a spoken-word intro (a la
"Leader", "Give Him a Great Big Kiss" etc.). I love Mary Weiss'
voice (if you hadn't already figured that out).
Speaking of "Leader" & stereo, has anyone found a stereo copy of
Lesley Gore's "Look of Love" in the "single-mix" form? The cut on
her LPs is different, the background singers starting on a low
note after the "ba-boom, ba-boom" drum intro instead of on a high
note. This and "Maybe I Know" are my favorites from her...
Mark (Philles Phanatic)
The Phil Spector & Philles Record Label
GalleriXXXX@XXX://www.toltbbs.com/~msland/Spector/
Subject: spector covers
Sent: 10/08/98 4:18 am
Received: 10/08/98 7:37 am
From: john rausch, jXXXX@XXXnet
another great spector cover i came across is marianne faithful
doing the ronettes "is this what i get for loving you"
Subject: spector covers
Sent: 10/08/98 4:16 am
Received: 10/08/98 7:37 am
From: john rausch, jXXXX@XXXnet
richard said:
>As a former member of The Rhondels, I must comment that, in fact,
>"Do I Love You" ain't all that good. The arrangement was done by
>Bill Deal and "Fat" Ammon Tharp, the founding fathers of the group.
...i think it is a great cover,IMHO.if i didnt know who it was i
would almost swear it sounds like cher singing.
Subject: Strangeloves
Sent: 10/07/98 2:29 pm
Received: 10/07/98 11:08 pm
From: Javed Jafri, javedjaXXXX@XXXt.ca
john rausch, jXXXX@XXXnet wrote:
>the strangeloves are one of my "guilty pleasurers"...aside from
>the wall of sound and ggs etc... the sonic boom of the
>strangeloves 45s on bang records are cool ,very much a tip "o" the
>hat to phil`s "wall'...with less theatrics...but very much "in your
>face" singles!
I get a kick out of the fact that the Strangeloves pulled one of
the best publicity stunts ever. They claimed that they were
actually sheep farmers from Australia who just happened to have
hit it big in music. In fact, they had already had some success in
their work with the Angels. Incidentally, they even recorded a 45
under the name The Sheep and that song "Hide and Seek" is as good
as any of the Strangelove hits.
Javed
Subject: Only In America
Sent: 10/07/98 1:40 pm
Received: 10/07/98 11:08 pm
From: Javed Jafri, javedjaXXXX@XXXt.ca
>From: Jamie LePage, le_page_XXXX@XXXties.com
>Jay & the Americans are hard for me to talk about, because
>although I love their records and particularly the signature
>Leiber/Stoller touches, Jay's voice grates on my ears. He makes
>everything sound so damned MOR. His "cover" of Things are Changing
>is embarrassing (even though it uses the original track)! I would
>love to be convinced otherwise, so anyone with a different opinion,
>please post!
Don't forget Jamie that there were actually two Jays in Jay & the
Americans but neither of them was really named Jay. The first Jay
sang on their breakthrough hit "She Cried" and then Jay Black took
over.
Javed
Subject: vcr alert
Sent: 10/08/98 9:06 am
Received: 10/09/98 8:03 am
From: john rausch, jXXXX@XXXnet
hi everyone,
just heard that darlene love is supposed to be on politically
incorrect on the 13th
jonr
Presenting the Fabulous
Ronettes http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studio/2469/
Subject: politically incorrect love
Sent: 10/08/98 12:27 am
Received: 10/08/98 7:37 am
From: Doc Rock, docroXXXX@XXXcom
Founf on the net:
Posted by gopher on October 07, 1998 at 02:57:12:
darlene love is scheduled to appear on the abc-tv
show, "politically incorrect" october 13th.
gopherspace
*** Presley sighting! Video shows earliest performance
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Hold the front page. There has been a new
sighting of Elvis Presley. This time it is not on Mars or the moon
or a diner in Poughkeepsie. It is on the first known film of the
singer performing onstage. Shot Aug. 7, 1955, by Jim and Lois
Robertson of Houston at Magnolia Gardens, a recreational area
outside the city that often featured young, unknown performers,
the film shows a 20-year-old Presley performing before about 25
people. Now, 21 years after his death, the clip has been
transferred to videotape, and copies are being released to stores
nationwide Oct. 20 by Tapeworm Video Distributors Inc.
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