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There are 12 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Where The Girls Are / Bernadette Peters
From: Mick Patrick
2. macca wacca... my last halfpenny
From: Alan Gordon
3. Re: Canterbury Music Festival
From: Country Paul
4. Re: Coronados
From: Andrew Sandoval
5. Re: Tony Hatch
From: David Feldman
6. Re: Canterbury Music Festival
From: Roland
7. Re:Tony Hatch
From: Guy Lawrence
8. Re: Tony Hatch
From: Paul Richards
9. Re: Faux Shangs: Brenda Hall
From: Mick Patrick
10. "Live at Disneyland"
From: Rex Strother
11. Re: B T Puppy Records
From: David Bell
12. Re: Sam Cooke songs
From: Richard Williams
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 08:50:39 -0000
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Where The Girls Are / Bernadette Peters
The S'pop Team:
> New at S'pop Recommends - Where The Girls Are, Volume 5 "A CD that
> has clearly set the standard for girl group compilations to come?"
> Why, Miss Sheila B must surely be referring to the latest addition
> to the "Where The Girls Are" series! It appears she quite likes it.
> Click here to find out why: http://www.spectropop.com/recommends/
Mark Frumento:
> I was pretty well stunned by the number of great tunes on this set. I
> kind of figured that the WTGA series would run out of steam at some
> point. Not! I think Vol 5 just may will be my favorite so far. The
> review points out most of the highlights but what attracted me is the
> "big" sound of the tracks. The two opening tracks by the Pussycats
> are practically straight rock 'n roll. The force of the first 5 tracks
> is only stopped by limboing Doris Day. So here's my review: any CD
> that has a Bernadette Peters track that gets my attention is worth
> buying (saying so with all due respect to Bernadette Peters' fans).
> And yes, the cover is amazing.
You like it, huh? Don't fret, I have plenty of steam left. In fact, the
next volume is already compiled!
Unlike in your country, the fame of Bernadette Peters as a Broadway diva
and movie actress never really spread to Blighty. I, for one, was a fan
of her sixties girly records before I even knew of her later career. Not
that that would've put me off. "Academy Award", "We'll Start The Party
Again", "The Trouble With Me Is You", "Will You Care What's Hap'nin' To
Me, Baby" - love 'em all! Any hope of converting you, Mark?
MICK PATRICK
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 19:08:01 -0800
From: Alan Gordon
Subject: macca wacca... my last halfpenny
Country Paul:
> My quick 2 cents on McCartney's bass playing: Unlike the
> other Beatles, McCartney started as a schooled musician.
With all due respect to Country Paul's incredibly vast knowledge
of many things musical, I'm not sure if I would consider learning
trumpet in a "grammar" school, being "schooled" in music. That
would be like dissecting a frog in class and being classified a
biologist. I assume all of what Paul really learned was to roughly
read a lead/single line. That's not, in my estimation, being
"schooled" in music. I have a few years of Theory, Musicianship,
Harmony, etc. and I have a hard time considering myself "schooled".
But that's just me.
Most of the musicians I know that have the best sight-reading chops,
have the most trouble with being spontaneous, and I think being
spontaneous is where a lot of the best ideas come from. As a friend
of mine termed it: Accident as Art.
But I also think Paul was eminently aware of the way music sounded.
He probably listened to virtually everything, which opened his doors
of perception to a lot of experimentation and mimicry. And mimicry
can be a great thing if you have a solid base from which to use it.
Paul has said that "Got To Get You Into My Life" (I think that was
the toon(?)) was his trying to be Motown. In my mind, not too Motown.
But what a fantastic soulful song. And then there's Earth, Wind and
Fire's version... amazing.
I was once told that I must be a good public speaker because I wrote
such natural sounding dialogue.
nonsense... I'm a good listener.
albabe
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:16:28 -0500
From: Country Paul
Subject: Re: Canterbury Music Festival
A little more web research led to
http://www.artistdirect.com/store/artist/album/full/0,,2487810,00.html?artist=The+Canterbury+Music+Festival, which has 30-second samples on-line;
haven't heard if the links work yet.
(Be sure the entire URL is on one line.)
A bit of new info at
http://www.borderlinebooks.com/us6070s/fuzz.html
they had 3 45's as well as an LP.
And of all things, here's a review:
http://www.shindig-magazine.com/reviews-oct2002-1.html (scroll
down a couple of entries), with an e-mail to order a CD version!
Country Paul
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 12:26:00 EST
From: Andrew Sandoval
Subject: Re: Coronados
Does anyone have any info on the Coronados? Here's what I know:
They were a Latino trio (a brother and sister, plus a friend)
that issued a soft pop album on Jubilee in 1969 called Hey Love.
They may have also recorded for Bright Star, Parliament, Four
Corners, Purdy and Todd. Any additional info would be most
appreciated.
Thanks,
Andrew Sandoval
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:00:43 -0500
From: David Feldman
Subject: Re: Tony Hatch
Mick Patrick said:
> As you might know, I am presently embroiled in interviewing
> the great man for a forthcoming S'pop feature. Here's a
> taster of what he told me about the creation of "Downtown":
"Downtown" made an indelible impression on me, but it was really
the subsequent ballad singles ("You'd Better Come Home", "Don't
Sleep in the Subway," "The Cat in the Window" and the upbeat in
tempo but relentlessly downbeat in mood "Who Am I") that made
the biggest impression. Even as an addled teenager, I realized
that these were songs written by an adult for adults, and yet
they connected strongly with me and do so now.
If I could ask Tony Hatch anything, it would be if in the early/
mid-60s, he saw himself as a tunesmith in the Brill Building mode.
His songs are so personal, so mature and pessimistic, that it's
hard to believe that he was "churning 'em out." I don't think
Pet Clark and especially Tony Hatch get the respect on this side
of the Atlantic that they deserve and I can't wait to read your
interview.
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:43:13 EST
From: Roland
Subject: Re: Canterbury Music Festival
The CD is available from: http://www.airmailrecordings.com
The CD is rather short, 11 tracks plus one bonus track and
much of the material sounds like demos. It seems like BT Puppy
just threw the LP together with whatever material they had
available. The best track is "First Spring Rain" which should
have been a hit and perhaps was a regional one since there was
even a cover version by a midwest garage band. I don't really
hear The Association in their sound. I'd compare them more to
bands like the Boys Next Door or The Trolls, just good sixties
harmony pop.
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 20:08:42 -0000
From: Guy Lawrence
Subject: Re:Tony Hatch
David wrote:
> "Downtown" made an indelible impression on me, but it was really
> the subsequent ballad singles ("You'd Better Come Home", "Don't
> Sleep in the Subway," "The Cat in the Window" and the upbeat in
> tempo but relentlessly downbeat in mood "Who Am I") that made
> the biggest impression. Even as an addled teenager, I realized
> that these were songs written by an adult for adults...
Or, in the case of "Cat In The Window" written by adults. The
song was written by Bonner and Gordon not Tony Hatch. Returning
to an earlier thread, was there an American "original" of this
track? Nice song either way and while I'm here can I too thank
Justin for his wonderful "Downtown" imagery.
Guy
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 18:07:50 EST
From: Paul Richards
Subject: Re: Tony Hatch
I also love Pet's "Who am I", "Colour my World", "Don't Give Up",
"I Want to Sing with your Band" & "American Boys" are also
favourites of mine. I agree, Tony Hatch is very underrated, as
well as Petula. I love the Hatch/Trent songs by The Montanas
("You Got to be Loved", "Step in the Right Direction", "Run to Me"),
The Settlers("Major to Minor"), Two of Each ("Summer of our Love",
"Trinity Street"). I also love that fantastic track he wrote &
produced called "Beautiful in the Rain".One of the all time
greats.
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 19:24:41 -0000
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Faux Shangs: Brenda Hall
John Frank said:
> In my not-so-humble opinion, of all the inhabitants of Girl
> Group Planet, The Shangri-las reign. Spector and Motown both
> spawned a lot of "copycat" singles -- releases that took the
> sound as a jumping-off point and tried to make a reasonable
> fascimile, resulting in a lot of great music (and a lot of
> crap). The Shangri-las, too, spawned copycat records that
> tried to capture the melodrama and sometimes the attitude of
> the Shangs. I'm listing some I've identified, and would
> welcome more! I'm particularly interested in original songs
> ('60s vintage only, please), but am also accumulating a
> listing of covers, parodies and answer songs... Help, please?
I didn't see Brenda Hall's "Oh Eddy, My Baby" on your list. It's
a very excellent Shangs-inspired platter, if you ask me. Released
on Loma 2020 in (natch) 1965, the disc was produced by the great
Bucky Wilkin (aka Ronny of the Daytonas) who also co-wrote the
song with his regular cohort Buzz Cason.
Here's the gist: Brenda and Eddy are lovers. Everyone says he's
no good. But he's good to her. They've been to a late night party.
He drops her off a block from her street so that her mom and dad
don't see, then speeds off on his hog in a cloud of dust. The
sound of screaming tyres can be heard in the distance...
I've posted the track to musica, so all you need to find out if
Brenda ever see Eddy alive again is click here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/
Must dash, I have an urgent appointment at the candy store.
MICK PATRICK
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 12:36:39 -0700
From: Rex Strother
Subject: "Live at Disneyland"
Once again - brains must be picked! P.S. the Superman list
is still coming together; and it's HUGE. I've compiled 136
different "Superman-titled" songs so far!
But my new query is this: My aunt, in the early 1960s, put
out a 45 on Buena Vista Records titled "Scream Along (With
the Monster)", Kay Bell and the Spacemen (Live at Disneyland).
Did Buena Vista Records put out other "Live at Disneyland" 45s?
Is there a compilation of these somewhere? If not, why not?
(that would be final question) Help? (ooops, I was wrong)
Rex Strother
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:40:56 EST
From: David Bell
Subject: Re: B T Puppy Records
Well, the only BT Puppy titles I have are both by the Chiffons.
The album 'My Secret Love" has a dreadful cover and it's very
short in length. However, the songs are tremendous and Judy and
Sylvia sing wonderfully well. My copy is Australian and it cost
me an arm and a leg! When I showed Judy my copy on the Bobby Vee
tour earlier this year, she had only ever seen one copy previously
and that was Ian's copy the previous week.
I also have their single "My Secret Love"/"Strange Strange Feeling"
a perennial Chiffons' b- side. This one is Italian and features the
same awful cover shot.
Someone should update the Chiffons' CD released by Ace 10 or more
years ago. How about it, Mick? They deserve a new anthology to
include "Love Me (Like You're Gonna Lose Me)".
David
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 19:36:18 +0000
From: Richard Williams
Subject: Re: Sam Cooke songs
Country Paul wrote:
> And, Richard Williams, Bruce's "Havin' A Party" is actually another
> Sam Cooke song, recorded (I think with Lou Rawls doing the duet) on RCA.
Wasn't "Bring It On Home To Me" the duet referred to?
Richard Williams
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