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There are 18 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Caroline Munro / Teenage Opera
From: Joop
2. Beatles novelties or Life is very short...
From: Andres
3. Re: Vinnie Bell
From: Dana Countryman
4. Re: The Association New Memories album
From: Bob Celli
5. John Schroeder
From: David Bell
6. Re: Beatles novelties or Life is very short...
From: Gary Myers
7. Re: "Open The Door To Your Heart" by the Mob
From: Simon White
8. Re: Beatles novelties or Life is very short...
From: Phil X Milstein
9. Re: Vinnie Bell
From: Phil X Milstein
10. Shirley Ellis / Sweet Inspirations / Sue Lynn / Chris Andrews
From: Will Stos
11. Re: Fowley, K.I., R.U. and U.T.
From: Phil X Milstein
12. Top 50 for September 2005 - Willie C's R'n'B Beach Music Café on Live365.com
From: Willie C
13. Marc Eric
From: Mike Bennidict
14. Re: The Association New Memories album
From: Mike Bennidict
15. 1950's LA rock & roll
From: Paul Oliverio
16. The Lion is still sleeping
From: Artie Wayne
17. Re: Vinnie Bell
From: John DeAngelis
18. Re: Beatles novelties or Life is very short...
From: Gary Myers
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 18:09:23 -0000
From: Joop
Subject: Re: Caroline Munro / Teenage Opera
Great story Mark,
Keith West and Steve Howe. Reminds me of their group Tomorrow and
the pscychedelic "My white bycicle". Nazareth had a UK hit with
that song in 1975, just before they hit big in the USA with
another cover: "Love hurts". "My white bycicle" was written by
Keith Hopkins (the real name of Keith West) and Ken Burgess.
Could it be that this song was already recorded in Keith and
Ken's days in the groups "Four + One" or "In Crowd".
Joop greets
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 09:19:14 -0000
From: Andres
Subject: Beatles novelties or Life is very short...
Dear Spectropoppers!
There are still some songs missing in my collection:
http://www.monstr66.narod.ru/my_wantlist.htm
But still, I want to find all of them (within my present life).
Please search in your basements or cellars or mezzanines, if you
can find some of the songs. I'm open for any offers - trades,
selling, whatever.
Thank you,
Andres
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 16:30:02 -0000
From: Dana Countryman
Subject: Re: Vinnie Bell
James Botticelli:
> Vinnie Bell, studio guitarist extraordinaire, frequently utilized
> the 'underwater' guitar sound. So much so in fact that his name
> often comes up as the father of that sound. At least in some
> circles.
Al Kooper:
> Vinnie built his own pedals to get his unique underwater sound,
> BTW. Thats why it was unique. Nobody else had the pedals.
Hey, I'm a good friend of Vinnie's and had the pleasure to record
with him at Bennett Sound in Englewood, NJ -- this was last
November. Vinnie still carries his own custom pedals, which he has
designed. It's all in a huge and HEAVY case with various UNMARKED
footswitches. He's a bit secretive about how he gets his sounds.
Only Vinnie knows what's inside the box, but he still does amazing
things with his effects. I got him to use the "underwater" sound
on a tune. It was awesome. Check out his web site at:
http://www.vinniebell.com
Cheers,
Dana Countryman
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 10:13:36 -0000
From: Bob Celli
Subject: Re: The Association New Memories album
Paul Urbahns:
> The New memories album lists the group as Terry Kirkman; Julius
> Alexander; Larry Ramos; Rus Giguere; Ted Buechel, Jr. and Rick
> Ulsky. The liners state that Brian Cole died in 1972, and
> therefore was not available. The Association songs were produced
> by the Association and when any artist redoes and oldie most
> folks compare it with the original. The remake always sounds
> "different" and these do. The arrangemnts are totally but I can't
> say bad, just more harmony which you would expect from that many
> singers.
Hi, Jim Yester was also on that lp but was not named. At least
that's what he told us after a "Triple Gold" show a couple of
years ago. Also, I was at Bobby Vee's session for "Fever", which
was included on that lp, and he did a really hot version, that
is until some hot shot producer in LA decided to remove the lead
guitar part from the recording thus emasculating it!
Bob Celli
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 14:35:44 EDT
From: David Bell
Subject: John Schroeder
Previously:
> By the way, does anyone know if this "John Schroeder" is the same
> guy who wrote Neil Christian's "A Little Bit Of Someone Else"?
Was he the "Pied Piper" guy? Bloody good record that was! I don't
recall the track you're asking about (though I sure would love to
hear it!), but John Schroeder wrote a bunch of great stuff for
Helen Shapiro.
And he was also her cousin Susan Singer's mentor. I was so envious
when a group of friends went to see the West End show based around
the life of Joe Meek and John Schroeder was part of the outing. I
would love to ask him about Susan, as so little seems to be known
about her. Does anyone know how to contact him as I'd love to think
that she is part of his forthcoming book?
David
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 12:27:18 -0700
From: Gary Myers
Subject: Re: Beatles novelties or Life is very short...
Andres:
> There are still some songs missing in my collection:
> http://www.monstr66.narod.ru/my_wantlist.htm
I don't have the record, but I can give you some trivia on one
of them, if interested. I knew the Canadian Beadles, and I also
recorded for Tide.
gem
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 20:35:17 +0100
From: Simon White
Subject: Re: "Open The Door To Your Heart" by the Mob
Gary Myers wrote:
> Yes. I show that as 1969, and the label was apparently the same
> co. as Twilight, for which the Mob also had a previous release.
A little bird tells me the Daylight 45 might be featured this week
on The Metropolitan Soul Show - Starpointradio.com 1.30 -3.30pm GMT
Sit on a potato pan, Otis
Simon White
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 16:33:21 -0400
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: Beatles novelties or Life is very short...
Gary Myers wrote:
> I knew the Canadian Beadles ...
If ever a phrase bore elaboration, it is that one!
Dig,
--Phil M.
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How I Spent My Summer Vacation:
http://www.philxmilstein.com/Summer05
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 16:41:43 -0400
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: Vinnie Bell
Dana Countryman wrote:
> Hey, I'm a good friend of Vinnie's and had the pleasure to record
> with him at Bennett Sound in Englewood, NJ -- this was last
> November. Vinnie still carries his own custom pedals, which he has
> designed.
Welcome, Dana -- great to see you at Spectropop!
For those who don't know, Dana was the founder, editor and publisher
of the late and lamented "Cool And Strange Music" magazine. I trust
he'll have lots more stories for us along the lines of his Vinnie
Bell tale, or at least be able to contribute some worthwhile
insights and record info.
Dig,
--Phil M.
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:10:43 -0000
From: Will Stos
Subject: Shirley Ellis / Sweet Inspirations / Sue Lynn / Chris Andrews
Hello group,
A couple of questions for the experts:
1) I've just rediscovered a Shirley Ellis CD and am enjoying it a
great deal. On some tracks the backing vocals stand out quite a bit.
Does anyone know if the Sweet Inspirations or their forerunners sang
on any of these?
2) I've also just received the latest Dreambabes CD (Stonefree and
Sassy or is it vice versa) in the mail and LOVE it! A particular
standout is the weird and wonderful "Reach For The Moon" by Sue
Lynn. Is this the same lady who cut "Don't Pity Me"? And, although I
doubt it, is there any relation to the Susan Lynn(e) who recorded
the fab "Don't Drag No More"? Are any more of her cuts available on
CD.
3) What particularly grabs me about the "Moon" song is the sound
effect at the start. Does anyone have any idea what this is? I think
the liner notes said Chris Andrews produced it (I don't have them
handy). I can only describe it as some weird organ/vocoder mix...
maybe. The whole arrangement and subject matter reminded me of the
Three Degrees' song "Contact."
Thanks, Will Stos : )
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 17:32:14 -0400
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: Fowley, K.I., R.U. and U.T.
Karl Ikola wrote:
> Mark, I know you've posted here frequently in the past, but I
> wasn't on the list then. I'm a very big Fowley fan, and love the
> "Something New And Different" b/w "Lights" 45 (released in '67
> in the UK on Parlophone, and on Loma in the US).
Fowley makes reference -- very positive reference, at that -- to Karl
Ikola in his recent interview with Richie Unterberger. An excerpt
appears in the new Ugly Things, and the full version is available at
Unterberger's site: http://richieunterberger.com/fowley.html . While
there, you might as well stay a while and read some of Richie's other
interviews: http://richieunterberger.com/sitemap.html
Meanwhile, Ugly Things #23 is another fine mess o' stuff on the Pretty
Things, Downliners, Yardbirds and, yes, Misunderstood, but also The
Belfast Gypsies, Mike Sheridan & Rick Price, Nervous Norvus, The
(Singapore) Checkmates, and such obscurities as The Pilgrims, Michael
Yonkers and Mike & The Ravens. Also, of course, almost enough reviews
(to fill a horsecart) and, sadly, too many obituaries. Check it out
at your corner newsstand, or at http://www.ugly-things.com/
Dig,
--Phil M.
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 22:44:30 +0000
From: Willie C
Subject: Top 50 for September 2005 - Willie C's R'n'B Beach Music Café on Live365.com
Willie C's R'n'B Beach Music Café on Live365.com
Top 50 for September 2005
Pos.TitleArtistLabel
1 My Main Squeeze - Tams - Mossland Records
2 These Are The Songs - Attractions - New Horizons
3 Hold Onto The Blues - Lonnie Givens - Real Side Records
4 I Want A Love I Can See - Angel Rissoff - Angel Music
5 Full Steam Ahead - Sea-Cruz - One20inc
6 No One Loves You Better Than Me - Rickey Godfrey Band - Mossland Records
7 ‘Til The Day After - Craig Woolard - One20inc
8 Ain’t No Stopping Us Now - Sammy O’Banion & Mardi Gras - Bradley House
9 My Heart - Showvinistics - ForEverMore
10 Each & Every Kiss - Pat Carpenter Band - Intervox Records
11 Is The Magic Still There - Gary Brown - Ripete
12 Room At The Top - Sea-Cruz - One20inc
13 City of Angels - Jean Jacques Milteau - Sunnyside
14 Matter of Time - Tommy Black & Blooze - Surfside
15 Nothing Goes Better - Mike Stewart & Casey York - KHP Music
16 King of the Road - Billy Scott - Flip Side
17 Short’n Bread - Monzas - Ripete/Pacific
18 Something Smooth - Rick Strickland - One20inc
19 La Di Da - Holiday Band - One21inc
20 Got To Get Yourself Together - Valentines - Ripete
21 It Doesn’t Get Any Better Than This - Mark Roberts - One21inc
22 Emerald Eyes - Tyn Tymes - KHP Music
23 Boardwalk Angel - Marlissa - Bradley House
24 Dance The Night Away - Winstons - GAD Music
25 Hard Times - Queen Latifah - Interscope
26 Meet Me With Your Black Drawers On - Sea-Cruz - One20inc
27 Rainy Day Bells - Attractions - New Horizons
28 Hang On In There Baby - Donny & Susan Trexler - Beachbag
29 She Ain’t You - Con Hunley - IMMI Records
30 Boat Dock - Dave Freeman - Bradley House
31 No One - Don Wise & Delbert McClinton - Horn O’ Copia
32 Part Time Love - Donnie & Susan Trexler - Bradley House
33 Walkin’ the Dog/Money - Class of 60 Something - KHP Music
34 Don’t Wait Around - Elgins - Gold Soul
35 When You’re Only Lonely - Marty Ojeda - Mossland Records
36 Good To Go - Big John Thompson - KHP Music
37 Sugar Dumplin’ - John Goudy - One20inc
38 Don’t Let the Green Grass Fool You - Fabulous Shades - Mountain Rock Music
39 Build Me Up - Al Green - Bluenote
40 I Wanna Be At the Beach - Fabulous Shades - Mountain Rock Music
41 Don’t Ever Dream Alone - Terri Gore - Bradley House
42 Lovin’ On Ocean Drive - Tim Cashion - One20inc
43 For the Love of Him - Susan Trexler - Bradley House
44 Grand Strand Summertime - Footnotes - KHP Music
45 Electric Slide - Carolina Connection - Surfside
46 Big Blue Diamonds - Percy Sledge - Varese Sarabande
47 In My Lonely Room - Monzas - Ripete/Pacific
48 Just A Fool - Casey York - Surfside
49 Summer Girl - Goldrush Band - One20inc
50 My Heart’s Got A Mind - Marty Ojeda - One20inc
http://www.live365.com/stations/williecs
--
Willie C.
See the Cafe at:
http://www.BeachMusicCafe.com
Listen to the Cafe at:
http://www.live365.com/stations/williecs
(843)455-6689
Member of
The Academy of Carolina Beach Music #1050
The National Association Rhythm & Blues Dee Jay's
The BMAI - Beach Music Association International
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 00:41:34 -0000
From: Mike Bennidict
Subject: Marc Eric
Anyone know about Marc Eric? I know a couple of tunes by him,
California and where Have The Girls of Summer Gone.
Mike
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 00:30:22 -0000
From: Mike Bennidict
Subject: Re: The Association New Memories album
I understand their 1st single release was a song called One Too Many
mornings released in 1965 and was a local hit in L.A. and didn't do
well nationally. What i'm wondering is what part of the year was it
released? I ask because their 1st national hit cherish was released
in the fall of 1966 I believe and I don't know of any other songs by
them in between those releases.
Mike
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 17:46:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Oliverio
Subject: 1950's LA rock & roll
Is there anyone in Spectropopland familiar with the early Fifties
scene in Los Angeles. Some names that prevailed were Johnny "Guitar"
Watson, Richard Berry, Jessie Belvin, the Platters, the Coasters....
If so PLEASE contact me.
Paul Oliverio
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 23:21:59 +0100
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: The Lion is still sleeping
I'm grateful to all of the Spectropoppers who have posted
information and websites on Solomon Linda, the Black South African
composer of "The Lion Sleeps Tonight", who was denied compensation
because at the time of apartheid Blacks weren't allowed to collect
royalties. He died penniless in the '60s.
After reading several accounts, I came to the conclusion that it
was more than a "Black" problem...it was a "Green" problem, as in
American dollars!
It's easy to believe that Jay Seigal and the Tokens brought the
song to Hugo and Luigi, their producers and heads of A+R at RCA
records in New York. In the early 60s', when I was friendly with
the group, I used to sit around their office and jam with them on
primative instruments and play African, Carribean and Brazilian
rhythms, to folk songs they collected from around the world.
I don't have any doubts that Hugo and Luigi and George Weiss [the
writers listed on the song] believed that "Mbumbe" was a
traditional African folk song, which was in the public domain. I'm
not surprised that they claimed the copyright, being in the
position of power they held at the time.
Athough Linda's estate has been given a few thousand of the 15
million dollars the copyright has earned over the years, The
Richmond Organizaton [the publisher in the U.S.] and the writers
listed on the song have received the lion's share of the royalties.
Linda's estate has never had proper representation and probably
never will. How many lawyers would take on this case knowing there
was little chance of making any money on a song that soon would
fall into the public domain ?
Sadly, Artie Wayne http://artiewayne.com
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 01:06:26 -0000
From: John DeAngelis
Subject: Re: Vinnie Bell
Dana Countryman wrote:
> Hey, I'm a good friend of Vinnie's and had the pleasure to record
> with him at Bennett Sound in Englewood, NJ...Check out his web site
> at: http://www.vinniebell.com
With all due respect to the great Vinnie Bell, I am skeptical of the
claim on his website that he played guitar on Donovan's "Sunshine
Superman" and the Lovin Spoonful's "Do You Believe In Magic",
"Daydream", "You Didn't Have To Be So Nice" and "Summer In The City".
Vinnie deserves tons of credit for all the songs he did play on, but
I'll bet money that that's Zal Yanovsky and John Sebastian playing
the guitar parts on the the Lovin' Spoonful hits.
John DeAngelis
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:32:33 -0700
From: Gary Myers
Subject: Re: Beatles novelties or Life is very short...
Me, earlier:
> I knew the Canadian Beadles ...
Phil Milstein:
> If ever a phrase bore elaboration, it is that one!
I met them in Ishpeming, MI, when they were the Blue Echoes. They
subsequently came out to SoCal (as did I) and I saw them out here a
couple of times. Our lead guitarist also did a record with them as
the Mojo Men. By that time, our band had returned to Milwaukee and
changed our name to the Mojo Men. This gets very complicated. I did
a story on the Tide/Edit labels for GM in '90, and it includes this
info. The Canadian Beadles (the name was Tide's idea) were a trio
and the two that I knew best were Vic Blunt - lead guitar and leader,
and Paul Case - drums. I have a bit more if anyone wants it.
gem
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