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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Teddy Vann discography
From: Hans Huss
2. Re: Caroline Munro, Clapton, etc
From: Mark Wirtz
3. Jeanne Thomas Fox
From: Joe Panzarella
4. Re: Caroline Munro
From: DPW
5. Re: Bobby Schafto
From: Peter Andreasen
6. Re: Gonna Get Along Without You Now
From: Various
7. Re: Teddy Vann discography
From: Stephane Rebeschini
8. Re: Teddy Vann discography
From: Will Stos
9. Re: Caroline Munro
From: Frank M
10. Re: Righteous Brothers Chart Entries Request
From: Peter Lerner
11. Rhino's Girl Group Box: Sound Quality
From: John H
12. Kenny and the Impacts "Wishing Well"
From: Robert Indart
13. Re: Philadelphia Soul [a little history]
From: Artie Wayne
14. Re: Gary U.S. Bonds
From: Steve Jarrell
15. Re: Caroline Munro
From: Mark Wirtz
16. Re: Eric Clapton & Mark Wirtz
From: Eddy
17. X-mas questions
From: Frank Jastfelder
18. Re: Teddy Vann discography
From: Tom D
19. Re: Rhino's Girl Group Box: Sound Quality
From: Rory Musil
20. Re: Jeanne Thomas Fox
From: DooWopDaddy
21. Re: Teddy Vann discography
From: Phil X Milstein
22. Re: Caroline Munro
From: Mark Maldwyn
23. Re: Colossus Records and the Dutch Connection
From: Phil X Milstein
24. Re: Gary U.S. Bonds and a Question about LLoyd Price
From: Regina Litman
25. The Temptations - no, not that group
From: Regina Litman
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 03:33:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Hans Huss
Subject: Re: Teddy Vann discography
Davie Gordon a écrit:
> Here's a hopefully near complete listing of records he worked on.
> Any help in filling in the gaps would be appreciated.
Brilliant! Some great records there - not least the Darlene McCrae
single and Larry Hale's 'Once'. Here's two more.
MARK JOHNSON (Diamond 237)
The Beautiful Place
Ode To Otis Redding
THE BURNING EMOTIONS (Bang 553)
The New World
The Whatchama Call it
Both 'Beautiful Place' and 'New World' use the rhythm track of the
wonderful 'Moonlight, Music And Me'. So, supposedly, does Honey
Townsend's 'The World Again' (Mala 540), but I haven't heard it.
The flip to the Freddie Williams on Zizz is 'Don't Go To Mars, Stay
Home', a throw-away instrumental, Phil Spector style.
Hasse Huss
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 01:21:55 -0000
From: Mark Wirtz
Subject: Re: Caroline Munro, Clapton, etc
Frank, Mark,
The Caroline Munro session took place at a particularly turbulent
time (in a good way), at which I was a virtual conveyor belt of
churning out records (for the arranging rent money to make up for my
paltry producer salary). While my memory is indeed quite clear on
many things (much to my own surprise), some things have washed into
each other and seem like a bit of a blur. The CM session specifics is
one of them.
Coinciding with the sessions during the said period, I was living at
the Wynton Hotel (sp?) in Bayswater, where Eric Clapton and Mitch
Mitchell (among others) were also staying (with Jimi Hendrix a
regular, visiting his girlfriend). We all hung out at night at the
bar and partied. It was that connection which prompted some of the
guys' appearances on some of my sessions as "friends" - the CM
session having been one of them (another "Star-studded" session
having been Jackie Lynton's "Decision" session). Wo, exactly, played
on which session...?? What has complicated matters, are the various
erroneous reports about who played on what during the years, some of
their faulty specifics I read or heard so often that, even though not
correct, I ended up believing them myself.
Specifically re: Jimmy Page - I, together with Derek Lawrence, was
the first producer (pre-my EMI days) to book Jimmy on union sessions
(the same applies to Nicky Hopkins).
Whereas Derek and Jimmy hit it off big time (Derek rarely used
arrangements on his sessions, thus giving Jimmy free range), I did
not get along with Jimmy, who was a poor reader and hated having to
play my charts. Besides, on expensive union sessions, when every
minute counted, showing up late and stoned close to coma state, did
not sit well with me. (Conversely, Nicky became a first-call regular
on my sessions, eventually also a close friend whom I miss to this
day.) Nevertheless, Jimmy did play on a couple of my sessions at
Abbey Road; don't ask me why.
By the way, I do wish to state that, my personal chagrin
notwithstanding, I always had, and still do, have only the greatest
professional respect for Jimmy; I believe he was brilliant to the
point of genius. So, by the way, was John Paul Jones, who, in
contrast to Jimmy, was a wonderful studio team player -- always
helpful and giving his very best. He and John McLaughlin (another
regular) had me so in awe, that I often felt embarrassed giving them
parts to play that, in their primitive simplicity, seemed like a nigh
insult to their musical and creative brilliance.
There... How is that for a loooong no-answer to your short
questions? ;)
Warm best,
Mark
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:39:32 -0000
From: Joe Panzarella
Subject: Jeanne Thomas Fox
Ken Charmer:
> I heard back from Jean Thomas after passing on the feedback from
> this group and this was her reply:
Am I safe to assume that this is the same Jeanne Thomas Fox that
appears on the "Lords of Flatbush" soundtrack LP?
Joe Panzarella
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 05:32:08 EDT
From: DPW
Subject: Re: Caroline Munro
Previously:
> Is this the same Caroline Munro, the "Scream Queen" of 1980's
> slasher movies fame?
She is....
DPW
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 09:50:43 -0000
From: Peter Andreasen
Subject: Re: Bobby Schafto
Justin McDevitt on Bobby Shafto:
> By chance, (and I doubt it), is She's My Girl on any compilation?
As far as I know, two tracks from Bobby Shafto have made it to CD:
"Who wouldn´t love a girl like that" on EMI CDP7903642 "Tio i topp,
vol. 3" and "She´s my girl" on EMI 724382113522 "Beat at Abbey Road
63-66"
Happy hunting.
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:27:00 -0000
From: Various
Subject: Re: Gonna Get Along Without You Now
One question:
> I am trying to find the name of the female artist who did a version
> of "Gonna Get Along without You Now" probably @ early sixties. It
> wasn't Teresa Brewer, Patience & Prudence or Skeeter Davis, but
> someone else. - Diane
A bunch of replies:
According to allmusic.com, other female artists who recorded that song
were Tracey Dey, Penny Marshall and Maureen McGovern. Early- to mid-
60's would most likely be Tracey Dey.
Phil Hall
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Might it be Tracey Dey, or is that one considered mid-60s?
Will Stos : )
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Hello Diane, The artist that you are looking for was most probably
Tracey Dey. It was one of about 10 singles she recorded for Bob Crewe
productions from 1962-1966. The last of her singles were done as
duets with Gary Knight, recorded as by "Dey & Knight". Almost all of
her records were good, many being above average. Her recording of "I
Won't Tell" is an absolute girl group classic, although it failed to
hit the hot 100 at the time of it's release. A cd of many of her
recordings is available occasionally on EBAY from an overseas source,
and it features Marcie Blaine on the other half. It is highly
recommended and features "Gonna get Along Without You Now".
Mike Miller
DooWopDaddy
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Tracey Dey had a great version on Amy in 1964.
Dan Nowicki
Phoenix, Arizona, U.S.A.
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Ooh ooh ooh, call me on! I know this one!
Was it Tracey Dey?
What do I win?!
--Phil M.
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It was Tracey Dey on Amy 901, Diane, also released in the UK on
Stateside 287. Dates from 1964.
Best wishes,
Peter Lerner
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Well Diane maybe you can find it here:
http://www.originals.be/eng/main.cfm?c=t_upd_show&id=2120
Joop greets
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Hello Diane, Tracey Dey could be who you're after and she also had a
more 'upbeat' arrangement of the song produced by Bob Crew. Will
there ever be a dedicated compilation by Tracey Dey on Ace perhaps?
This version was covered in Australia by The Taylor Sisters and I
wonder if Christine Holmes covered it in the U.K.?
All the best,
Mark Maldwyn
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 10:12:00 +0200
From: Stephane Rebeschini
Subject: Re: Teddy Vann discography
Davie Gordon a écrit:
> Here's a hopefully near complete listing of records he worked on.
> Any help in filling in the gaps would be appreciated.
Hi, Great work! You can add this LP to your list:
1969
MAXIMILLIAN (ABC ABCS-696)
8 tracks including
Naked Ape (written by Teddy Vann)
Prod & arranger: Teddy Vann
It's a black psych rock trio with Buddy Bowzer influenced by Hendrix.
Stephane
http://www.octopusmusic.fr
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:56:10 -0000
From: Will Stos
Subject: Re: Teddy Vann discography
Davie Gordon a écrit:
> Here's a hopefully near complete listing of records he worked on.
> Any help in filling in the gaps would be appreciated.
Was "The Jet Set" by the Jet Set also done by Teddy Vann? I first
heard it on Girls Will Be Girls Vol. 1 and love it! I thought he was
involved.
Will : )
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:27:41 +0100
From: Frank M
Subject: Re: Caroline Munro
Frank M wrote:
> Well Brian Mathews read out a letter from Mark explaining he could
> not add much to the story of Caroline Munro that Brian had attached
> to the playing of Caroline's single "Tar and Cement". Mark did
> point out that whilst Clapton was on the session Bruce and Baker
> were not.
Dennis:
> Is this the same Caroline Munro, the "Scream Queen" of 1980's
> slasher movies fame?
I suggest you visit:
http://www.monstermania.net/Caroline_Munro_Hammer_Photos.htm
and see for yourself.
Alan:
> I was the one who sent an extract of an e-mail that Mark Wirtz had
> posted on the Interweb to "Sounds Of The Sixties" (phew).
Thanks for doing that. I was at a Ska club with Mungo's Hi Fi on
Friday night till 2am so my radio alarm failed to waken me although
the words "Mark Wirtz" must have brought me to consciousness. Anyway
I have gone to Listen Again at http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2 and heard
Brian quote your letter, quoting Mark's e mail which says say "Eric
Clapton, Steve Howe, Mitch Mitchell, John Paul Jones and (as you say)
Big Jim Sullivan on Banjo with Ray Cooper on Percussion and Nicky
Hopkins on Piano."
And Hi Mark F. Yes it would be good if Mark Wirtz confirmed the line
up and maybe explained Clapton's presence.
FrankM
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 17:15:22 +0100
From: Peter Lerner
Subject: Re: Righteous Brothers Chart Entries Request
Peter (another one!) asked about Bill Medley's US solo country chart
entries. Well, according to Joel Whitburn, they are:
1979 Statue of a fool (UA 1270) reached no 91
1983 Till your memory's gone (RCA 13692) no 29
1984 I still do (RCA 13753) no 17
1984 I've always got the heart to sing the blues (RCA 13851) no 26
1985 Is there anything I can do (RCA 14021) no 47
1984 Women in love (RCA 14081) no 55
Cheers,
Peter
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 23:23:03 -0000
From: John H
Subject: Rhino's Girl Group Box: Sound Quality
A friend of mine, someone lucky enough to work in the world of
publishing, managed to obtain a promo copy of this. The great news is,
he loves it! And he's not someone who was a fan of girl groups before
this. Heh.
The bad news: when he played several key cuts for me, the sound
quality was terrible. This is most noticeable on Cilla's "I've Been
Wrong Before," a track which has been anthologized many times already
and, so I thought, readily available from the master tapes. There was
much vinyl hiss and crackle. What gives? I can understand Rhino not
being able to obtain the masters for some of these tracks, but I would
have hoped they'd clean them up a little better. (The Hollywood Jills
and Toni Basil also sound pretty bad.)
That said, these issues are pretty minor. My friend actually found the
vinyl sounds charmingly atmospheric, so I'm sure they won't hinder the
listening enjoyment for most of us. Can't wait to be able to pick up
my own copy.
-John H.
PS They used my favorite version of Lesley's "What Am I Gonna Do With
You," so I'm thrilled already.
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 13:13:17 -0000
From: Robert Indart
Subject: Kenny and the Impacts "Wishing Well"
I came across a 45 from a group called Kenny and the Impacts on DCP
Records arranged by Teddy Randazzo and Composed by Kenny Seymore (The
lead singer). I notice the song was published by Spectorious Music.
My question is this the same Spectorious that released a Arlene Smith
record in the early sixties that is usually at least in the internet
as a Phil Spector Production?
By the way these are the same Impacts that recorded Canadian Sunset
for RCA IN 1959. The group also featured Sammy Strain before he
joined Little Anthony and the Imperials and Kenny Seymore was the
lead singer of the Imperials during the early sixties when Little
Anthony had left briefly. It's strange how these two groups connect
to Teddy Randazzo.
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 06:32:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: Philadelphia Soul [a little history]
I'm really happy that Phiadelphia Soul is being being discussed. In
the early 60s', when I was living in New York, I made it a point to
go to Philly, at least once a week, to show my songs to artists and
producers. I remember going to sessions at Sigma Sound, where I hung
out with Billy Jackson, Elliot Mazer, Joe Wissert and Dave Apple, who
was one of the first musicians I ever saw overdub his part directly
through the board.
I became friendly with Kenny Gamble when I'd run into him up at at
Cameo Records, but our relationship became strained when we found out
that we going out with the same girl [Dee Dee Sharp]. I met my future
writing partner Jerry Ross in the offices of Harold Lipsius, where we
both were trying to sell masters.
When Philadelphia Soul exploded in the early 70s', much of it was due
to the deal that my late manager, Marty Machat made between Gamble
and Huff's Phiadelphia International records and Columbia Records.
Columbia was trying for years to gain a foothold in the R+B market,
but was only moderately succesful. Gamble and Huff were having hits
and selling singles, but they weren't selling any albums.
The combonation of their incredible artists and superior productions,
as well as an unrivaled promotion machine, now had the financial
resources and marketing skills of one of the largest record companies
in the world.
Although, at the time, I didn't get many cover records out of Philly,
I cherish the many friendships I made...not to mention the musical
inspiration that is with me to this day!
regards, Artie Wayne http://artiewayne.com
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 08:40:40 -0500
From: Steve Jarrell
Subject: Re: Gary U.S. Bonds
Dennis Hoban:
> How about Gary (U.S.) Bonds? Is he still alive? I saw him in
> "Blues Brothers 2000" in 1998 and haven't heard of him since.
Gary U.S. Bonds is very much alive! I spoke with him in May. He has
a current CD out entitled "Back In 20". He recently won a blues
award for "Best comeback of the Year" award or something like that. I
asked him about it and he replied, "I never knew I ever left!"
Steve Jarrell
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 16:21:59 -0000
From: Mark Wirtz
Subject: Re: Caroline Munro
Dennis Hoban wrote:
> Is this the same Caroline Munro, the "Scream Queen" of 1980's
> slasher movies fame?
She most certainly is -- a regular in them golden olden "Hammer"
films. And don't forget Caroline as one of the fabled "Bond (007)
girls"...! Caroline, by the way, continues to be active, looking
fabulous, and appearing regularly at Sci-fi - and horror film
conventions.
Mark
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 07:39:51 +0200
From: Eddy
Subject: Re: Eric Clapton & Mark Wirtz
Mark Frumento:
> It would be good to have a Clapton expert chime in on this. It
> seems odd to me that he was doing session work, especially in 1967,
> with all of his Cream activity.
This is what Claire Francis had to say on her own 45. We're talking
1966 here.
"Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page and Bill Wyman played on: "I've Got My Own
Thing Going"; "Here I Go Again" Artist was me. What I remember is
that they had specific guitar parts written out by the arranger,
except where they improvised, which is at the beginning of "I've Got
My Own Thing Going" and on "Here I Go Again"..where Eric played my
own 12 String: http://users.skynet.be/rockofages/Clairefrancis/ "
So I see no reason why he shouldn't be present on more sessions.
It's something he had been doing pretty early on in his career (Otis
Spann, Champion Jack Dupree) with quite a few more to follow in 1968/
69 (Zappa, Aretha, Beatles + various related). But since we do have
Mark Wirtz in our midst, it would be nice if he could confirm...
Eddy
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:07:12 +0200
From: Frank Jastfelder
Subject: X-mas questions
Dear Spectropop Santas,
I know it's a little bit early but I'm working on the third volume of
our X-mas series "Snow - The Get Easy Christmas Compilations" and I'm
desperately in need of some informations. So please fill in the gaps.
Preferably off-list. I really appreciate your help and your place on
the thankslist is granted.
Frank Jastfelder
Not your typical Spectropop song but I gues one or another Peggy Lee
fan is amongst you:
Peggy Lee
Ring Those Christmas Bells
(Fisher/Levine) Shawnee Press Inc.
Arranged by ???
Produced by ???
(P) 1953 Decca Records
As far as I know it came out as a single b-side only and is so far
not re-released yet:
The Flirtations
Christmas Time Is Here Again
(Writer???) Publisher???
Arranged by
Produced by
(P) 1968 Deram Records
Coming out of the talented Mayfield stable:
The Stridells
I Remember Christmas
(Writer???) Publisher???
Arranged by ???
Produced by ???
(P) 1969 Curtom Records
On my original LP the song is titled "Prologue" and is credited to
Sherman himself. However BMI lists Tom Bahler as writer.
Unfortunately there's no arranger on the LP credited. Maybe someone
has the Metromedia single to take a look at:
Bobby Sherman
Goin’ Home (Sing A Song Of Christmas Cheer)
(Bahler) Green Apple Music Co
Arranged by ???
Produced by Ward Sylvester
(P) 1970 Metromedia Records
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 23:13:41 -0000
From: Tom D
Subject: Re: Teddy Vann discography
>From Davie Gordon's Teddy Vann discography:
> ROBERTA MESHEL (Diamond 154) BB 01/18/64
> My Top Ten Chart (Teddy Vann, Roger Atkins)
> Uptown Blues (Teddy Vann) - THE THEODORE ORCHESTRA
> Prod : Teddy Vann
I've noticed that Diamond Records used the name Roberta for a few
people (one writer [Roberta Harris], one performer [Meshel]), and
used Meshel for a number of writers' last names [Sol, Billy, Wilbur]
(i have to wonder if any of them were real people (and if so,
related?), as at least Roberta Harris was a pseudonym for Diamond
president Joe Kolsky [and I believe Sol Meshel was too]). For this
record in particular I can tell you that the B side is by Theodore
And His Orchestra [not The Theodore Orchestra], so I assume that this
is actually by Teddy Vann.
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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 22:24:09 -0700
From: Rory Musil
Subject: Re: Rhino's Girl Group Box: Sound Quality
John H wrote:
> A friend of mine, someone lucky enough to work in the world of
> publishing, managed to obtain a promo copy of this ... The bad
> news: when he played several key cuts for me, the sound quality
> was terrible...
Rhino often compiles early cd-r versions of their multi-disc sets
prior to putting together the actual finished version. These are
sometimes compiled from sources other than the masters that will
ultimately be used.
Rory
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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:22:03 EDT
From: DooWopDaddy
Subject: Re: Jeanne Thomas Fox
Ken Charmer:
> I heard back from Jean Thomas after passing on the feedback from
> this group and this was her reply:
Joe, Yes, this is the One and Only Jean Thomas, going by her newer
married last name.
DooWopDaddy
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:06:27 -0400
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: Teddy Vann discography
Davie Gordon wrote:
> Here's a hopefully near complete listing of records he worked on.
> TEDDY VANN DISCOGRAPHY
Wow, terrific stuff! I love guys like Vann, who, apparently, worked
freelance throughout most or even all of his career, recorded tons of
masters which he'd then lease wherever he could. I only hope
somebody's gathering all this stuff together, to present Vann's work
all in one place. Thanks for the great work, Davie. I have little to
add, but when has that ever stopped me from trying?
> THE GREAT NATHANIEL (Vann 101) BB12/11/61
> Soul (Teddy Vann)
> Lost
> Prod :
Most likely Magnificent Montague.
(Which reminds me that Davie listed another Montague record in his
recent Moonshot discog.:
6701 THE DIPPERS
Honey Bunch - PT. 1 (N. Nathan)
Honey Bunch - PT. 2 (N. Nathan)
Prod : Rose Productions
Apparently a West Coast record - "N. Nathan" was well known DJ The
Magnificent Montague and Rose Productions was his company. ...
Agreed. Nathaniel was Montague's (otherwise unused) given name, and
Rose his wife's name. He frequently used combinations of those names,
as well as his wife's maiden name Catalon, in the credits of records
he produced. See (and, better still, hear) yet another such record,
"Lost Teenager" by "Nathan Catalon & The Keys" (aka The Magnificents,
a vocal group Montague put together for lead singer Johnny Keyes,
which began under Montague's auspices during his brief stint in
Chicago c.1956, and then went off on their own (with his blessings)
to enjoy a long career under that name), which is quite unique and
remarkable, at Session 32 of my Probe site, at
http://www.philxmilstein.com/probe -- it'll have you turning blue!).
> JOHNNY THUNDER (Diamond 132) BB 03/02/63
> The Rosey Dance (Teddy Vann)
> Rockabye My Darling (Teddy Vann)
> Prod : Teddy Vann
Is "The Rosey Dance" another nursery rhyme song, a la "Loop De Loop"?
> THE BOBBETTES (Diamond 133) 04/63
> Row, Row, Row (Teddy Vann)
> Teddy (Teddy Vann)
> Prod : Teddy Vann
Seems Vann was here applying that same formula with a female group.
> ROBERTA MESHEL (Diamond 154) BB 01/18/64
> My Top Ten Chart (Teddy Vann, Roger Atkins)
> Uptown Blues (Teddy Vann) - THE THEODORE ORCHESTRA
> Prod : Teddy Vann
Great record! Does anyone know anything about Roberta Meshel?
> ROBERTA MESHEL (Date 1506) BB 03/19/66
> If There's A People Up There (Teddy Vann)
> Space Ballad
> Prod : Teddy Vann
Have either of these sides been comped at all?
> TEDDY VANN (Capitol 5878) 03/67
> Adventures of Colored Man
> Theme from Colored Man
> Prod :
Ditto? By the way I've seen this one attributed to the Teddy Vann Orchestra.
> LAURA GREENE (RCA 9164) 04/67
> Moonlight, Music And You (Teddy Vann)
> Love Is Strange
> Prod : Teddy Vann
>
> THE SANDPEBBLES (Calla 134) 07/67
> Forget It, I Got It (Teddy Vann,Calvin White)
> Psychedelic Technicolor Dream (Teddy Vann)
> Prod : Teddy Vann
And ditto again, for the above two B-sides?
> Somewhere along the line there seems to have been a Christmas album
> written and produced by Teddy but so far I haven't been able to
> track down details.
Which might be the source for the indescribable "Santa Claus Is A
Black Man," by Akim & The Teddy Vann Production Company, Akim being
apparently Vann's young daughter. The track is included in the recent
"A John Waters Christmas" comp, where further credits read "courtesy
of Simtone Records/JAD Records," and list Vann (pere) as the writer.
Davie's T.V. discog cuts out in '72. Did Vann die then, retire, or his
trail simply go cold?
Dig,
--Phil M.
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:00:46 -0000
From: Mark Maldwyn
Subject: Re: Caroline Munro
Dennis Hoban:
> Is this the same Caroline Munro, the "Scream Queen" of 1980's
> slasher movies fame?
Yes, the scream queen of the 80's, 70's and 60's-as far as I know and
the face (and body) of Lamb's Navy Rum. A great single too.
Mark M
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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:27:52 -0400
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: Colossus Records and the Dutch Connection
Davie Gordon wrote:
> ... Of A Man (Teddy Vann) Little Girl's Gonna Be Trouble Prod :
> [AKA Gil Blanding on Ready, he'd had an earlier (1966) single on
> Verve and would resurface on Jerry Ross' Colossus label in the
> early seventies] 6706 THE SUBWAY RIDERS Adam (Teddy Vann) Aft..
I've been meaning to ask about Colossus Records, and this gives me an
ideal opening. As an adolescent in the late '60s/early '70s I knew
Colossus as the USA source of some great pop records imported from the
Netherlands, by such acts as Tee Set ("Ma Bell And Me" -- just
kidding, it was "Ma Belle Amie"), Shocking Blue ("Venu") and George
Baker Selection ("Little Green Bag"). (Note that this era was an
especially happenin' one for Dutch groups in the USA, with the harder-
rockin' Focus and Golden Earring also scoring major hits here, on
labels other than Colossus.)
Recently, pulling out some Shocking Blue 45s to play, I noticed Jerry
Ross' name on Colossus' label, thus perhaps Artie Wayne can offer some
behind-the-scenes insights about Colussus. More generally, though, I
wonder whether it was set up specifically to handle lease deals with
Dutch managers or producers; whether it was a partnership between Ross
and a Dutch entrepreneur; if perhaps Ross simply lucked into his
"Dutch Connection" via one deal that became especially successful,
and thus prompting an follow-up arrangement; etc. Also, did Colossus
release records by acts OTHER than Dutch ones?
Dank u,
--Phil M.
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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 01:12:15 -0000
From: Regina Litman
Subject: Re: Gary U.S. Bonds and a Question about LLoyd Price
Dennis Hoban wrote:
> How about Gary (U.S.) Bonds? Is he still alive? I saw him in
> "Blues Brothers 2000" in 1998 and haven't heard of him since.
Gary (U.S.) Bonds may have sung about New Orleans, but I remember
that he was from the Norfolk, VA, area. Did he relocate to New
Orleans?
I'll ask my own question - is Lloyd Price still alive? Or does he
now live elsewhere? I didn't see him on that list.
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Message: 25
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 01:37:00 -0000
From: Regina Litman
Subject: The Temptations - no, not that group
I remember someone once sent in a question to Casey Kasem on
"American Top 40" asking if two different groups with the same name
had ever made the Billboard Top 40. He responded that there had only
been one such name as of that time, which probably would have been
the early or mid-1970s - the Temptations. One, of course, was the
well-known Motown group. The other was a group that did a song
called "Barbara" that made the chart in 1960.
I don't think I've ever heard "Barbara" by the "other" Temptations. I
see from their listing in Whitburn's Top Pop Singles that they were a
white doo-wop quartet from Flushing, NY (in Queens).
On the Cameo Parkway Box Set (which has allowed me to hear some songs
I'd heard OF but never heard before, such as "The Class" by Chubby
Checker, "Dinner with Drac Part 1" by John Zacherle, and Evie Sands'
version of "Angel of the Morning"), there's a song called "Birds N'
Bees" by a group called the Temptations. This song has a very Buddy
Holly-like sound to it. It is obviously not the Motown Temptations,
but it also doesn't sound like a typical doo-wop group from New York.
Is this a third Temptations, or did the "Barbara" group adopt this
atypical sound somewhere along the line? The New York Temptations
recorded for a label called Goldisc, but it was not uncommon for acts
to release one or two singles on a label before moving on.
The liner notes don't provide any information about this group and
song. The detailed track listing shows that this song was recorded in
Philadelphia on February 26, 1959, more than a year before "Barbara"
charted. Since the white doo-wop group was from New York, I think the
Philadelphia recording location makes it less likely that this was
the same group. The recording date was within a month after Buddy
Holly's death, so this record may have been intended to be a tribute
to his style, whoever it was who was singing it.
The songwriters of "Birds N' Bees" are listed as Cooper/Davis/Moore.
I had never heard the song before. It's not the same song as "The
Birds and the Bees" that was a hit for Jewel Akens. Nor is it the
same song as The Newbeats' "(The Bees are for the Birds) The Birds
are for the Bees", which I never heard until 2004.
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