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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Written and produced by Larry Weiss / Arranged by Artie Butler / Sung by the Carolines
From: Mick Patrick
2. Ernie Johnson, Robert Moog, Laurel Aitken - R.I.P.
From: S'pop Projects
3. NS nails BB
From: Phil X Milstein
4. Re: The Victorians
From: Ian Slater
5. Re: "The Lion Sleeps Tonight"
From: Hans Huss
6. Re: Moon Shot
From: Hans Huss
7. Re: The Fleetwoods
From: Peter Lerner
8. Re: The Victorians' "You´re Invited To A Party"
From: Julio Niño
9. Re: The Orlons on ABC
From: Hans Huss
10. Hurricane relief updates
From: Artie Wayne
11. Re: Bob Denver, Requiecscat in Pace ...
From: Clark Besch
12. Re: The Victorians
From: Maurice Seaton
13. Dick Stewart
From: Clark Besch
14. Wildwood concert in October; Fleetwoods; stretched & edited songs; New Orleans masters
From: Country Paul
15. Evie Sands; Orlons/Zip; and all the news
From: Country Paul
16. Lions and loops
From: Country Paul
17. Re: The Victorians
From: Stefano Boni
18. Re: Lesley Gore
From: Brent Cash
19. Dylan at the Gaslight in Greenwich Village
From: Clark Besch
20. Re: Lesley Gore
From: Jim Allio
21. Victorians - Monkey Stroll
From: Ian Slater
22. Re: Moon Shot
From: Phil X Milstein
23. Re: Moonshot Records
From: Austin Powell
24. Dispatch from Denny Reed; Clarifying RCA 45s
From: Country Paul
25. Re: "You're My Baby"
From: Will Stos
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 19:02:31 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Written and produced by Larry Weiss / Arranged by Artie Butler / Sung by the Carolines
Hans Huss:
> One fabulous record is Anna King's 'The Big Change', written by
> Larry Weiss, Lockie Edwards Jr, and Luther Dixon, released on
> Dixon's Ludix label (Ludix 103) in 1963. Not sure if it's on any
> compilation, but definitely worth tracking down.
Thanks for the tip. I have several 45s on Ludix, and a few by Anna
King, but not that one - rats.
Another Larry Weiss-created disc I'd recommend to everyone is "Can't
Stop Lovin' The Boy" by the Carolines, a fantastic mixture of the
girl group, Spector and northern soul styles. This gem was released
on Roulette 4709 in 1966. Larry Weiss and Tom Catalano wrote the
song, the arranger was Artie Butler, and Larry Weiss produced. It's
available on CD, unlike the B-side, "You're My Baby", which is now
playing at musica:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/
Curiously, the label carries the legend "Polydor Series". What does
that mean, anybody know? More curious still, in the UK a British
group named the Carolines released a 45 on Polydor. Not the same
group, obviously . . . . . . or were they?
I hope Larry Weiss and Artie Butler get to see this message, because
I'd really like to know more about the record, and the Carolines -
their lead singer was fantastic, who were they?
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 19:03:27 +0100
From: S'pop Projects
Subject: Ernie Johnson, Robert Moog, Laurel Aitken - R.I.P.
One of the less pleasant tasks of the S'pop Team is the
all too regular updating of the Remembers section. Three
more obituaries have just been added. Click the links
below to read them.
Ernie Johnson
Of the soul duo Eddie & Ernie
died on August 20th aged 61:
http://www.spectropop.com/remembers/EJobit.htm
Robert Moog
Inventor of the Moog synthesizer
died on August 21st aged 71:
http://www.spectropop.com/remembers/RMobit.htm
Laurel Aitken
"The Godfather Of Ska"
died on July 17th aged 78:
http://www.spectropop.com/remembers/LAobit.htm
R.I.P.
The S'pop Team
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 23:56:01 -0400
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: NS nails BB
One of my favorite records by one of my favorite singers is Nancy
Sinatra's version of Sonny Bono's "Bang Bang (My Baby Shot Me Down)."
After all the times I've heard it, only listening to it tonight did I
realize that the only instrumentation on the damn thing is an electric
guitar, with the trem set to max. The guitar, though, is beautifully
played -- it would have to be, considering -- and I can only guess it
was handled by Billy Strange. Does anyone know if that's correct, or,
if not, who the hell else it is?
Two-instrument recordings must give stereo mixdown engineers fits:
where to place the instruments in the pan? Hazlewood went pretty far
on this one, with near-complete left/right discretion. Also, as
gorgeous as the guitar sounds, the track couldn't have worked were it
not for Nancy turning in one of the loveliest performances of her
career. I have to imagine Sonny was pretty proud when he heard this
one.
Another oddity about this song is it's one of the few that was
recorded by both Nancy and Frank Sinatra. I remember that when the
first of Frank's duets albums was about to come out, the Boston Globe
ran a press release announcing the lineup, saying that on one of the
cuts Frank would be duetting with Sonny Bono. I immediately flashed
on the likelihood that Frank & Sonny would be revisiting "Bang Bang,"
and got very excited about the possibility. Imagine my dismay when
the album finally came out, and the only Bono on there was the one
from U2!
Bang,
--Phil M.
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 19:19:09 +0100
From: Ian Slater
Subject: Re: The Victorians
Rich asked;
> Has anyone heard the song "You're Invited To A Party" by The
> Victorians? They have the Spector "Wall Of Sound". Is It out on CD?
Yes Rich! On a super rpm CD called "Girls Go Zonk" (rpm 274). I had
the privelage of writing the Spectropop review of it:
http://www.spectropop.com/recommends/index2004.htm
The original single (Liberty 55728) has an equally good, maybe even
better, track on the other side: "Monkey Stroll", but that hasn't
come out on CD yet so far as I know. Great group, lead singer Gloria
Hargis (aka Gloria Melbourne) - more about them in Spectropop
archives.
Ian Slater
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 01:09:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Hans Huss
Subject: Re: "The Lion Sleeps Tonight"
Previously:
> Joop's link had some mistakes, here is the correct one:
> http://www.originals.be/eng/main.cfm?c====t_upd_show&id==@98
Jens:
> It may be the correct link now, but it still leads to "Error
> occurred while processing request". Any chance that the information
> could be copied and pasted into a mail, if not to the whole group,
> at least privately to jenskoch@stofanet.dk
Indeed, so it does. How utterly curious, it is now the exact same
(erroneous) link that Joop mailed us, with two digits and a couple of
letters missing in the address. Something for the Webmaster to look
into...
If you go to the Originals website ( http://www.originals.be ) and
enter either "Solomon Linda" or "Mbube" (the song's original title)
you will get there! I hope...
Hasse
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 02:34:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Hans Huss
Subject: Re: Moon Shot
James Botticelli:
> Maybe (Moon Shot) was a boot label or yet another obscure indie
> soul label. I've never seen a pop rekkid on it. Anyone have the
> poop on Moon Shot?
Moon Shot certainly was not a boot label, they put out some wonderful
soul music in 1968-1969 (and sported one of the greatest label
designs ever - a dark blue rocket taking off into the asteroid belt,
straight out of one those Fantasy & Science Fiction magazine covers
of the 1950s). Some records list the address as 1631 Broadway, others
just say "distributed by Calla".
I can't find a full discography, but releases include the Drippers,
'Honey Bunch' (Moon Shot 6701); the Vontastics, 'Lady Love' (6702);
the Delfonics, 'He Don't Really Love You' (6703); Jimmie Raye (Mr.
Soul Spectacular), 'That'll Get It' (6705); the Sub-ominants, 'Anyone
Can Do It' (6707); Cliff Nobles, 'Pony The Horse' (6710); and Landy,
'Doctor Good Soul' (6711). There was one album release, Cliff Nobles,
"Pony The Horse" (Moon Shot 691), released to cash in on the success
of 'The Horse' on Phil-L.A. of Soul no doubt, but it's not too
exciting.
Landy McNeil's 'Doctor Good Soul' is nice, it gave its name to a 1998
Westside compilation (now deleted), which has 'Lady Love' and 'He
Don't Really Love You' (as well as some Calla and Roulette sides);
the Sub-Dominants 45, is a great dance number to do the Jerk and the
Watusi to, written and produced by Major Lance; but the one to own at
any price is Jimmie Raye's self-penned 'That'll Get It' - usually not
an expensive record, fortunately - which has the Shirelles on backing
vocals and is simply out of this world. In fact, it will have you
over the moon...
Hasse Huss
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 08:33:21 +0100
From: Peter Lerner
Subject: Re: The Fleetwoods
Phil comments:
> Their first hit was in 1959, and they had disbanded by 1963.
Not true, Phil. I took another look at my 10 Fleetwoods' albums and
the one which I think must be their final one, "Folk rock", includes
tracks like "A lovers concerto", "You've got your troubles", "Baby
don't go" and two Dylan songs, and must date from around 1965.
I first started collecting The Fleetwoods because they are excellent
interpreters of Jackie DeShannon / Sharon Sheeley compositions - not
just "The Great Imposter", but several others. However almost every
song they touch is turned into a thing of beauty.
Nestling next to the Fleetwoods in my "F" album box is "Cast your
fate to the wind" by Shelby Flint, another west coast angel. Who can
tell us what became of her?
Peter
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 11:48:08 -0000
From: Julio Niño
Subject: Re: The Victorians' "You´re Invited To A Party"
Hola everybody.
Richard Price:
> Has anyone heard the song "You're Invited To A Party" by The
> Victorians? They have the Spector "Wall Of Sound". Is It out on CD?
It´s included in the fabulous "Girls Go Zonk!" on RPM. And it´s one
of the 22 good reasons to buy that CD.
Chao.
Julio Niño.
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 03:08:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Hans Huss
Subject: Re: The Orlons on ABC
Stefano wrote:
> Do you happen to know if (the Orlons') "Everything" is available on
> CD? I have been looking for it for some time.
Don't think so, strangely enough. It's a great tune! Three copies of
the original 45 listed on GEMM though, two of them under 'Keep Your
Hands Off My Baby' (actually the A-side).
To think of the compilations that could be made of ABC-Paramount's
soul releases...
Hasse
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 06:33:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Hurricane relief updates
I want to thank all of the Spectropoppers who have posted information
on survivors of hurricane Katrina. I have forwarded the e-mails to
people who have been able to locate friends and relatives!
Last week, the Jerry Lewis telethon, in addition to raising 55
million dollars for kids with Muscular Dystrophy, raised an extra 2
Million for the Hurricane relief effort.
A complete list of artists, who will be appearing on a Super money
raising telethon this friday night, will be announced later today.
The hour long show will be aired commercial free, on all the networks
at the same time, as well as broadcast to 95 countries around the
world.
regards, Artie Wayne http://artiewayne.com
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 14:38:47 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Re: Bob Denver, Requiecscat in Pace ...
Dave Monroe wrote:
> LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Bob Denver, whose portrayal of
> goofy first mate Gilligan on the 1960s television show "Gilligan's
> Island" made him an iconic figure to generations of TV viewers, has
> died, his agent confirmed Tuesday. He was 70....
> http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/09/06/denver.obit.ap/index.html
Bob Denver was surely a friend to most all of us who grew up in the
60's. His silly misfortunes as Gilligan made us all feel better
about our "comparatively small" misfortunes we went through. He was
a friend to watch on TV. I enjoyed the show originally at age 10+
and could still enjoy it today. It's always a return to the innocent
days we wish we could relive. Oh, I guess that's what we do HERE!
Rest in peace, Bob, "little buddy".
Clark
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 14:45:50 -0000
From: Maurice Seaton
Subject: Re: The Victorians
Richard Price wrote:
> Has anyone heard the song "You're Invited To A Party" by The
> Victorians? They have the Spector "Wall Of Sound". Is It out on CD?
Rich, the track is on "The Girls Of Hideaway Heaven Vol 1" (Rare
Rockin' Records RRR1011) and on "Girls Go Zonk!!" (RPM274).
Moz
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 17:54:55 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Dick Stewart
Hi, while we mourn the losses in New orleans and that of Bob Denver,
let's pray that those such as Alex Chilton and Frankie ford are still
with us down there. Another one to think of is our friend and editor
of Lance Records' great website, http://www.lancerecords.com Namely,
Dick Stewart. He has given us great interviews and knowledge of our
favorite music for years and he unfortunately had a heart attack
recently. I hope you will all let dick know how much we hope he
improves quickly. It's funny that he is irritated that he kept us
from his September posts of the site. i guess that's a guy who loves
his music, huh? Anyway, if you read the lance records site, please
let him know you appreciate all he's done for us.
thanks, Clark
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 22:39:54 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: Wildwood concert in October; Fleetwoods; stretched & edited songs; New Orleans masters
For folks interested in Cameo-Parkway artists live, Chubby Checker is
headlining a Fabulous ‘50s Rock and Roll Show on Saturday evening,
October 15, 7pm, at the Wildwoods Convention Center. Also appearing
are Buddy Holly’s Crickets, Charles Thomas’ Drifters, Shirley Alston
Reeves, and Charlie Gracie. The concert is the centerpiece of a
weekend celebration of the 1950s and Wildwood’s rock and roll
heritage. The second annual Wildwoods Fabulous '50s Weekend, October
14-16, 2005, at the Wildwoods Convention Center will be a musical
celebration of the island’s role in the birth of Rock and Roll, and
the launch of "The Twist" 45 years ago. More details at:
http://www.gwcoc.com/fifties/birthplace.html
Dennis Hoban:
> What's criminal in my eyes is they aren't in the Rock Hall of Fame.
> I think it's because of an anti-Washington State bias in the
> judges' parts. Where are the Wailers? The Ventures? Anyway. LOVE
> the Fleetwoods.
As do I, Dennis. Geography aside, I think they might be considered
"too soft" for the R&RHOF. Of course, not so The Ventures, who not
only had hits but enjoyed a long seminal career as a major part of
the surf music architecture team. But then again, it goes to show the
arbitrariness of selection for any kind of awards, save a direct
quantifiable competition. How does one compare The Fleetwoods to The
Ventures, for example? Two outstanding pop endeavors, each completely
different. Just my opinion....
Michael Thom:
> I thought it might be interesting to compile a list of hits for
> which sections of a song were patched in and thereby repeated,
> usually to make a song longer, but in at least one instance
> ("Psychotic Reaction") to change the ending of a song. Here are a
> few that come to mind:... Additions?
I don't remember if it was "Slippin' and Slidin'" or "Lucille" by
Little Richard which was about 1:20 in its original; some judicious
splcing stretched it out to about two minutes. Also, like "Psychotic
Reaction," the original "Bluebird" by Buffalo Springfield had a long
heavy jam ending; the more familiar banjo-based coda was a spliced-on
afterthought.
Dave Marheine:
> I can't help thinking about this record store in N.O. not far from
> one of those bridges over the river. A medium grocery sized store
> with table after table of reccord racks. Spent the best part of an
> afternoon skimming the surface, picking up a single of Smiley Lewis'
> "I Hear You Knockin'" and a few other treasures my budget would
> allow. And now it's gone. On the other hand, that was probably
> twenty years ago, so maybe Thousands of vintage 45's and LP's under
> feet of contaminated water is the least of what's going on down
> there, but still...
As the waters begin to recede, I've wondered not just about the
artists and the records, but also about the original master tapes of
so much music that is vital to America and the world. Were they
stored in N.O.? Did people at various studios or the custodians of
various masters outside of studios evacuate them to higher ground?
Certainly there are other priorities right now, but I wonder anyway.
Needless to say, our hearts go out to everyone affected by this
terrible multi-dimensional tragedy. "Words cannot express," etc., so
I won't try; but I've sent a donation as I know others have and hope
the rest of you will do.
Country Paul
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 22:52:42 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: Evie Sands; Orlons/Zip; and all the news
Mick Patrick wrote:
> Yeah, you don't have to be rich anymore to own (Evie Sands'
> fabulous "Any Way That You Want Me") album on CD, now that it's out
> on Rev-Ola (it was previously available only as a hideously
> expensive Japanese import, you see)....
> http://www.cherryred.co.uk/revola/artists/eviesands.htm
I must make a shout-out - or perhaps a "whisper-out" for my favorite
Evie Sands track, "One Fine Summer Morning" on A&M. But also worth
noting is the superior remastering of her Cameo cuts on the C-P box
set; they are so clean and crisp it's like hearing them for the first
time.
S. J. Dibai:
> I'm happy to see The Orlons' "Spinning Top" on their package, but
> what exactly does that record have to do with Cameo-Parkway?
I haven't seen the set list, S. J., but has their Pageant 45, "Where
You Going Little Boy" recorded as Zip & The Zippers, been included?
Artie Wayne:
> I want to thank Spectropop for giving us a chance to share
> updated reports about artists, writers and musicians who are
> icons to our members.
Strongly seconded, Artie. Whoever thought we'd be a newsgroup?!? :-)
Country Paul
(still 72 hours behind, but gaining)
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 00:29:34 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: Lions and loops
Admin note:
> An extremely comprehensive account of the story,
> 'Where Does The Lion Sleep Tonight', can be found at:
> http://www.3rdearmusic.com/forum/mbube2.html
Highly recommended and engaging; also quite the indictment of the
music business.
And while we're debunking authorship, Phil wrote:
> The producer, at least as credited on the latter version, is Teddy
> Vann, the writer (and also producer?) of Thunders' "Loop De Loop".
Joop replied:
> This remains to be seen, cause "Loop de loo" was a traditional
> Caribbean song.
> http://www.originals.be/eng/main.cfm?c=t_upd_show&id=2396
It was a playground game when I was in kindergarten, before the
copyright date (geez, I'm old, aren't I?!?) It has nursery-rhyme
origins.
Country Paul
(actually caught up!)
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 08:42:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Stefano Boni
Subject: Re: The Victorians
Richard Price wrote:
> Has anyone heard the song "You're Invited To A Party" by The
> Victorians? They have the Spector "Wall Of Sound". Is it out on CD?
Hi Richard, I found that track on a CD called "The Girls of Hideaway
Heaven". It's a great song, but my favorite Victorians track is "Oh
What a Night for Love". I wish all their tracks were reissued and
remastered on CD...they only released 7 songs.
Stefano
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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 16:26:51 -0000
From: Brent Cash
Subject: Re: Lesley Gore
Antone wrote:
>Always happy to discuss and promote Lesley Gore...
Hi, OK, Antone and other Lesley experts, there is a great song among
great songs on the Bear Family box set titled "Ride A Tall White
Horse" from 1969 / previously unissued / no writer credit or other
info available. Surely this could be a Laura Nyro song? It's not to
be found under Laura's entries at BMI that I can see. Anybody know
who's responsible for this gem?
Best Wishes,
Brent Cash
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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 14:48:37 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Dylan at the Gaslight in Greenwich Village
Don't get me wrong. I am not a Dylan fanatic by any means. Yet, I
appreciate much of what he has accomplished and do like a handful of
his versions of his songs. Especially the early songs. I've not
ever thought of his singing as good, but some of it, even he does
well. He certainly has written some great songs. Anyway, when I
heard StarBucks coffee was putting out a Cd of a previously
unreleased tape recorded in 1962, I had to sponge for it, tho I have
but one double cd of his stuff otherwise. It was cool to think of
him as pretty much a "non star" in 1962 up on stage singing the folk
songs on this Cd at the Gaslight in Greenwich Village. The recording
is surprisingly good and the performances good! He doesn't have to
yell the songs over a crowd and can sing as simple as could be. It
has an early version of "A Hard Rain" and a very early offering
of "Don't think twice". Most are covers and he clears his throat
once or twice during songs as well as a little bit of ambient
sounds. It's a very honest performance and maybe it's been
bootlegged for decades, but I haven't heard it. It's kinda cool to
hear his guitar on "Moonshiner", as it sounds as if Simon & Garfunkel
are about to break into their 7 years later "Boxer" 45, it's that
close. Of course, it's also similar to the closer in time "He was my
Brother", but "Boxer" came to mind when i heard this recording. The
Cd is well worth seeking out if you want to hear Bob live before he
was a star.
Clark
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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 12:54:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jim Allio
Subject: Re: Lesley Gore
Brent Cash asked:
> There is a great song among great songs on the Bear Family
> box set titled "Ride A Tall White Horse" from 1969 / previously
> unissued / no writer credit or other info available. Surely this
> could be a Laura Nyro song? It's not to be found under Laura's
> entries at BMI that I can see. Anybody know who's responsible
> for this gem?
Written by Lesley and Michael Gore, produced by Lesley on May 2, 1969 (her
birthday) at RCA Studios in Hollywood in an obvious homage to Laura Nyro,
who the brother-sister songwriting team were both "mad about." Quincy Jones
would only approve Gore's recording the "most benign" (Lesley's words) of
Nyro's songs, "Wedding Bell Blues," so I guess she decided to write her own.
That remained unreleased until the 1994 Bear box exhumation.
Jim Allio
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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 20:20:27 -0000
From: Ian Slater
Subject: Victorians - Monkey Stroll
Further to previous discussion, I've played "Monkey Stroll" to musica.
Enjoy!
Ian Slater
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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 16:57:47 -0400
From: Phil X Milstein
Subject: Re: Moon Shot
Jimmy Botticelli asked:
> Maybe (Moon Shot) was a boot label or yet another obscure indie
> soul label. I've never seen a pop rekkid on it. Anyone have the
> poop on Moon Shot?
Here's some discog info I dug out. All are listed as from '68:
6701: The Dippers: Honey Bunch (Pts. 1 & 2)
6702: The Vontastics: Lady Love / When My Baby Comes Back Home
6703: The Delfonics: He Don't Really Love You / Without You
6704: ?
6705: Virgil Blanding: Birth Of A Man / Little Girl There's Going To Be
Trouble
6706: Subway Riders: Adam / After The Session
6707: The Sub-Dominants: Anyone Can Do It / Bang Bang
6708: Jimmy Raye: It's Written All Over Your Face / That'll Get It
6709: ?
6710: Cliff Nobles: Pony The Horse / Little Claudie
6711: Landy: Doctor Good Soul / Mama Dear
6712: Tony Fox: Say What You Mean Mean What You Say / Powerful Love
--Phil M.
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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 21:28:32 +0100
From: Austin Powell
Subject: Re: Moonshot Records
I may be repeating what someone has alreday said - hope not. Moonshot Records
was based in Philadelphia and was distributed by Cameo. ... Maybe it moved to
NY after Cameo folded ? I guess Roulette would have been an obvious choice for
distribution given its clout in the marketplace?
Can I also briefly say how awful are the pictures coming out of New Orleans.
Thank goodness so many of the city's musicians seem to have been accounted for.
It's still the lead story on UK news programmes at the moment ... and rightly so.
Austin P.
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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 17:20:28 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: Dispatch from Denny Reed; Clarifying RCA 45s
I heard from Denny Reed, subject of a feature Spectropop article, regarding
the recent "fuzztone" discussion:
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I have just read your Spectropop e-mail regarding "Bo Grumpus" and fuzztone,
and have a comment for you. If you have access to my record, "Sweet
Senorita From Santa Fe." you will hear what we recorded in about 1963. A
steel guitar player named Red Rhodes played through the fuzz, but while we
were recording, his amp blew a tube and we got this very unusual distorted
sound. I was living in Nashville, writing for Tree Music, and started
writing "Sweet Senorita" but just couldn't get it finished. About a year
later I had moved to Hollywood and started working with Gary "Alley Oop"
Paxton, and he heard the song and encouraged me to finish it, which I did.
I started writing the song for Marty Robbins while I was in Nashville.
Paxton produced the track on me using Western Studios in Hollywood. I think
Leon Russell played piano, Ben Benay on accoustic, and Gary and I did all of
the harmonies. Gary played the song for Marty Robbins, and Marty wanted to
record it. However, he wanted 100% of the publishing. Gary owned the
publishing, so he declined the offer from Marty.
Meanwhile, Gary had a studio in his house on Hudson Avenue in Hollywood.
One day Herbie Alpert came in and he was carrying a plaster or ceramic bull;
he had just hit with "The Lonely Bull." Gary invited him up, and since I
was the most recent production, Gary played him my tracks. He played "Sweet
Senorita," and Herbie said to Gary, "Who is this singing?" Gary replied,
"It's Denny." Herbie said, "Denny, you sound like a young Marty Robbins."
He continued, "Gary, what are you going to do with these masters?" Gary
said, "Try to get Denny a deal." Herbie says, "How about A&M Records?"
Gary said, "Sounds good to me." Herbie said, "Who wrote the song?" Gary
replied, "Denny wrote it." Herbie said, "I would like to record the song
with the Brass and release the instrumental version at the same time we
release Denny's record." Well, I was overwhelmed to say the least.
I am not exactly sure of what happened, but I saw Herbie on the street about
two weeks later, and asked him what was going on with the record deal. He
said that some things had happened as they often do in the record business,
and unfortunately the whole deal was lost as a result. However, two years
later "Sweet Senorita" came out through Tower Records, although it got zero
promotion and bombed. I think it was and is a great record. The whole
thing still haunts me after all of these years. It was my "big chance", but
I guess it was not meant to be.
I still keep in touch with Gary. He is now into Christian/gospel and is
writing a lot, and he still produces all other types of music. I have also
had a ton of e-mails from people from the Spectropop article. Thanks once
again. I see my old buddy Jerry Riopelle has replaced me! We used to hang
out together years ago. As you know, I am from Arizona and Jerry is regarded
as a "superstar" in Phoenix and Tucson. Great guy.
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I'm waiting for an mp3 of the track to play to musica (unless someone else
has it and beats me to it!).
Clarification: Me, about RCA 45s:
> Even in the mid-60s, DJ copies of pop records were sent out
> with yellow backgrounds, while country records went out on
> light green.
Of course, I meant the labels, not the vinyl. Incidentally, routine vinyl
color-coding stopped because of the manufacturing plants having to carry too
much different inventory, and also the cost of the downtime to change the
vinyl stock in the pressing machines.
Country Paul
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Message: 25
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 21:44:54 -0000
From: Will Stos
Subject: Re: "You're My Baby"
Mick Patrick wrote:
> I hope Larry Weiss and Artie Butler get to see this message, because
> I'd really like to know more about the record, and the Carolines -
> their lead singer was fantastic, who were they?
Thanks for posting such a clean MP3 of "You're My Baby," Mick. I had only
heard a fuzzy muffled version previously. I actually prefer this cut to "Can't
Stop Lovin' The Boy." The lead singer has a La La Brooks quality to her voice
and these two sides always remind me of The Crystals.
Will
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