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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Jack Nitzsche at Spectropop update
From: Martin Roberts
2. "Come Back When You Grow Up"; "...Mary Mae"; "...Wanna be Happy" calypso?
From: Country Paul
3. Welcome, new member Claire Francis
From: Frank
4. Re: Dean Reed's "Elizabeth"
From: Eddy
5. Izora Rhodes Armstead, R.I.P.
From: Eddy
6. Re: The Outsiders' "Bend Me, Shape Me"
From: Ed B
7. Welcome, new member Claire Francis
From: Mick Patrick
8. New track at musica: Danish girl group A-side
From: Martin Jensen
9. Welcome, new member Claire Francis
From: Martin Roberts
10. Re: "Bend Me, Shape Me"
From: Ed Salamon
11. Re: more on Dean Reed
From: Chris
12. Sandy (with a Y) Shaw
From: Eddy
13. Boom Records listing
From: Davie Gordon
14. Re: Skeeter Davis, R.I.P.
From: Joe Nelson
15. Re: Welcome, new member Claire Francis
From: Mick Patrick
16. Re: Skeeter Davis, R.I.P.
From: Robert Pingel
17. They All Wanna Sound Like Dion
From: Mikey
18. Andy Kim
From: Michael Godin
19. Gillian Hills and Eight Feet
From: Ian Slater
20. Re: Skeeter Davis, R.I.P.
From: Ian Slater
21. Introduction
From: Kevin Higham
22. Re: Gillian's Hills
From: nuzzster
23. Re: Del Shannon box set (some details)
From: Jens Koch
24. Remembering Jim Croce
From: Artie Wayne
25. Re: Sandy (with a Y) Shaw
From: Tom K White
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 18:56:08 +0100
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: Jack Nitzsche at Spectropop update
A super soul item plays on the Home page in the form of
Val Martinez' "Someone's Gonna Cry" (RCA).
Get there, give it a listen or be square.
http://www.spectropop.com/JackNitzsche/index.htm
Part four of Jack's interview with Karel Beer is playing
On The Radio http://www.spectropop.com/JackNitzsche/radio.htm
Jack talks about recording with Doris Day and shady shenanigans
in the record biz.
Harvey Kubernik, talking about his new book, "This Is Rebel
Music", has been interviewed by Gary Pig Gold for the Fufkin
web site. It's both an excellent site and interview, split into
two parts, the first part of which is available at
http://www.spectropop.com/JackNitzsche/inhardback.htm#rebel
Martin
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 00:45:29 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: "Come Back When You Grow Up"; "...Mary Mae"; "...Wanna be Happy" calypso?
Clark Besch:
> This conversation led to the story on "Come Back When You Grow Up".
> When KOMA radio in Oklahoma City had their DJ reunion early this
> year, my fave KOMA DJ, Dale Wehba, talked about hearing a local band
> play the song live and he thought it would be good for Vee.
That would be Shadden and the King Lears, whose arrangement was essentially
copied by Bobby Vee.
> It appears with an intro on Vee's EMI Legendary Masters Cd and we
> wondered why they cut that and made the 45 start cold vith vocal
> beginning instead of having the original opening.
As I remember, the Shadden version came in with the cold vocal entry; I
never knew of an intro. Interesting.
Clark again:
> New to Musica is P.F. Sloan's unreleased demo acetate "Hey There
> Mary May". With all the talk of the techniques used to do Gary
> Bonds' music, I thought this would be fun to hear at this time.
> Certainly NO attempt was made by Sloan to capture the sound of the
> recording techniques of U.S. Bonds', but it certainly is a ripoff
> of his big hit "New Orleans".
I agree that it's interesting and IMO it's pretty good; granted that it's
a demo, I wouldn't expect the recording quality to be monumental. But I
respectfully differ with Frank's review of this track ;the song isn't
monumental either - to me it feels like the derivation it is, and shows
the difference between "working on something" and "just letting it flow."
(But it IS cool to be able to hear it; thanks, Clark!)
Al Kooper wrote, re: Frank Guida productions:
> My fave has always been "If Ya Wanna Be Happy For The Rest of
> Your Life, Never Make A Pretty Woman Your Wife - From My
> Personal Point of View Get An Ugly Woman To Marry You" by
> Jimmy Soul. Now THAT'S some Shakespearian wisdom right dere.
...And a rompin' good track. I always wondered if there had been a calypso
version before - or after. anyone know/
And Al re: Brent Records, mentions Dean Parrish's "Turn On Your Love Light,"
which I've never heard. Any chance of playing it to musica, Al? Please?
"All right, good night, sleep tight, gotta get up very early in the
mornin'..."
Country Paul
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 07:04:15 +0200
From: Frank
Subject: Welcome, new member Claire Francis
Claire Francis wrote:
> My name is Claire Francis. I was head of A&R for Polydor in London
> for a few years in the sixties. While I was there, I recorded myself
> as an artist. I recorded "But I Don't Care" and "I've Got My Own
> Thing Going", for Polydor records in the 60's, along with several
> other records...
Welcome Claire, I remember fondly "Baby I don't care" and I'll have
to check if I still have the single somewhere in my collection. In any
case if you want to have a chance of finding what you are looking for,
you came to the right place.
Frank
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 07:31:12 +0200
From: Eddy
Subject: Re: Dean Reed's "Elizabeth"
Andrew Charles:
> I remember seeing one TV news story about Dean Reed, and how he was
> going to try and re-establish his career in the US. Unfortunately,
> not long after that story, he died mysteriously.
Apparently Reed had more than strong sympathies for Communism. After
all, there was a reason why he lived in the GDR and was so popular in
the USSR. He did indeed go back to the States trying to rekindle his
career, but I suspect this was mostly done against a political
background. For reasons unknown (his visit to the States maybe?) he
got in trouble with the Powers in Charge in the GDR and soon
afterwards he was found drowned in a lake, still fully clothed.
Although it was never ruled as such, popular belief is that he was
murdered over forementioned trouble.
Eddy
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 11:45:15 +0200
From: Eddy
Subject: Izora Rhodes Armstead, R.I.P.
R.I.P. Izora Rhodes Armstead, half of The Weather Girls of "It's
Raining Men" fame.
Eddy
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:30:45 -0000
From: Ed B
Subject: Re: The Outsiders' "Bend Me, Shape Me"
Someone mentioned:
> The Outsiders ...
I believe Bend Me Shape Me was on the second album, along with
Respectable and Help Me Girl, but it wasn't released as a single.
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 20:06:34 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Welcome, new member Claire Francis
Claire Francis:
> My name is Claire Francis. I was head of A&R for Polydor in London
> for a few years in the sixties. While I was there, I recorded myself
> as an artist. I recorded "But I Don't Care" and "I've Got My Own
> Thing Going", for Polydor records in the 60's, along with several
> other records...
Hi Claire, we're honoured to have you on board. Many of us S'poppers
have a strong interest in 1960s songwriters and producers, especially
of the female kind. Y'know, Carole King, Ellie Greenwich, etc. To many
of us, "But I Don't Care" is something of a Spectorized Holy Grail.
> I am currently trying to locate copies and original masters of my
> work as well as articles written about me to give to my daughters.
> Is there anyway anyone out there can help...
Copies of your own records are a bit hard to find, to say the least.
Trust me, they are very collectable. But I dare say that someone could
transfer those rare 45s to CDR for you, if that might suffice.
The records you produced for other artists at Polydor - Lynn Holland,
Sonny Childe, Dave Rich, etc - aren't quite as hard to find. With any
luck, someone here at S'pop can help you find copies for your gals.
I've always been curious how an American woman ended up in Britain
working as a record producer. How did you land that job? What had
you been doing previously? Which artists, other than those mentioned
above, did you produce? Questions, questions!
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:29:49 -0000
From: Martin Jensen
Subject: New track at musica: Danish girl group A-side
Hi,
In 64 the two sisters Lecia & Lucienne issued 'Waiting on the
Corner', a nice little girl group single now playing at Musica.
It was written by the 'Danish Elvis', teen sensation Otto
Brandenborg, who also penned the B-side, the Beatlesque 'Wishing to
Kiss You'. If anyone's interested, I can also upload that one...
with regards
Martin, Denmark
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 18:43:30 +0100
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: Welcome, new member Claire Francis
Hello Claire,
Well how cool to see your message pop-up on the site. Gave me a
good excuse to use the new SpectroSearch (top left - on the Members
page at least - and very good it is too.) Good, but quiet-of-late pal,
Ian Chapman, mentioned "But I Don't Care", "I've Got My Own Thing
Going" (My copy is a UK Polydor demo) and Dave Rich's "Last Two People
On Earth". These are also my favourites of the tracks I know by you.
If there was room on 'musica' I'm sure someone would play a track or
two as a welcome and introduction to those that haven't heard any of
your music. I do hope your message drags Ian out from the woodwork.
He's a polite but probing questioner. I'm sure I'm not alone in
relishing the chance to know more of your career.
Best,
Martin
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 14:29:15 -0000
From: Ed Salamon
Subject: Re: "Bend Me, Shape Me"
zedboy wrote:
> I just saw Sonny Geraci from The Outsiders, and he was great. He
> did a bunch of covers, including Bend Me Shape Me. I know that was
> The American Breed but I read somewhere that The Outsiders also had
> a hit with it. Anybody remember that? I never heard it.]
The American Breed's "Bend Me Shape Me" was a remake of a cut on the
Outsiders' second album Outsiders #2, and that is Sonny's connection.
The Outsiders had not released it as a single. It was written by Scott
English ("Brandy" /"Mandy" and singer of the Pittsburgh monsterhit
"High On A Hill") and Larry Weiss ("Rhinestone Cowboy", which became
an anthem for WHN radio). Outsiders #2 had their hit "Respectable" as
well as "Help Me Girl" another English/Weiss song which was released
as a single at about the same time by both the Outsiders ans Eric
Burdon and Animals and, as a result, was never as big as it could have
been. Scott now lives in London, and Larry is here in Nashville.
Ed Salamon
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 07:55:16 -0000
From: Chris
Subject: Re: more on Dean Reed
I'd actually first heard about Dean Reed in the "American Rebel"
documentary. What I found interesting was the fact that he got his
start in 1959 at Capitol, which, despite "The Search," his first release,
only reaching the fifties on Billboard, kept releasing several more
singles until 1961. "Our Summer Romance" was my favorite of
those. Teenpop with sort of a country yodel as the chorus -- Dean
must have been a big fan of Frankie Laine. That song was apparently
the one that got him a huge following in South America (I always
wonder how some obscure US record that probably got little promotion
from its label ends up being Number One in Argentina or someplace).
Dean's 1964 "Don't Tell Him No", on the Odeon Pops label, is well
worth finding – a Freddie Cannon-style hard rocker with horns that
combines "When the Saints Go Marching In" with "What'd I Say"!
- Chris
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 15:14:32 +0200
From: Eddy
Subject: Sandy (with a Y) Shaw
In view of the conversation on German Vogue, I was wondering if anybody
had any information on Sandy-with-a-Y Shaw. I have a 45 of her on Vogue
DV 14283 called Einmal glucklich sein wie die andern c/w Ohne dich. The
a-side is a German-sung version of Bacharach-David's Always something
there to remind me. The label claims it's licensed from Pye and a bit of
an accent also suggest Sandy is not German...
Eddy
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 15:15:07 -0000
From: Davie Gordon
Subject: Boom Records listing
In response to overwhelming public demand : -
BOOM RECORDS
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dist. ABC
60000 THE SHEEP 01/66
Hide And Seek
Twelve Months Later
60001 DEBRA SWISHER 02/66
You're So Good To Me
Thank you And Good Night
60002 THE BABY DOLLS
Now That I've Lost You
I Will Do It
60003 LEE MERRILL
The Boys From Madrid
Banco, Banco
60004 TAMMY WAYNE 03/66
Have A Good Time
Kiss Away
60005 TERRY CASHMAN AND THE MEN 04/66
Pretty Face
Tell Me
60006 CAB CALLOWAY
History Repeats Itself
After Taxes
60007 THE SHEEP 05/66
I Feel Good
Dynamite
60008 unissued ?
60009 SHEP GRANT 06/66
Goodnight Irene
Animal Party
60010 unissued ?
60011 unissued ?
60012 DEAN PARRISH 06/66
Tell Her
Fall On Me
60013 LEE MERRILL 08/66
The Green Hornet Theme
Off The Wall
60014 THE LAST WORD 07/66
Bidin' My Time
Hot Summer Days
60015 THE LIVE WIRES 07/66
Keep It To Myself
The Mask
60016 DEAN PARRISH 10/66
Turn On Your Love Light
Determination
60017 BOBBY HEBB
Betty Jo From Ohio
Sam Hall Jr.
60018 THE QUARTERNOTES
Hey Little Girl
I've Been Loved
60019 GARY AND THE LOVELITES
My Heart Just Couldn't Take The Pain
Shadow Of Your Love
60020 VITO AND THE SALUTATIONS
I Want You To Be My Baby
Bring Back Yesterday
60021 THE CONCORDS 10/66
Down The Aisle Of Love
I Feel Love Comin'
60022 GILES STRANGE 12/66
Watch The People Dance
You're Going Up To The Bottom
60038 DEAN PARRISH 12/66
Skate - Pt. 1
Skate - Pt. 2
The 60038 number for "Skate" isn't a typo - why they made such a
jump in the numbers is one of those mysteries that haunt the dreams
of discographers - were there ever any plans for 60023 through 60037
- and what were they ??
It's been said a few times that this label was owned by Feldman-
Gottehrer-Goldstein because of their involvement in some of the
releases - not so, the label was actually owned by the Rifkind
brothers who would go on to set up the Spring label (Joe Simon,
Millie Jackson, the Fatback Band and may great one-off soul records
in the seventies)
The Sheep have long been thought to be a pseudonymous Starngeloves
project - however I've seen a promo photo of the Sheep so they were
probbaly a real group although whether or not they actually play on
their singles is another question entirely.
Debbie Swisher was, if I remeber rightly, briefly lead for the Pixies
Three and would go on to become lead for the Angels on RCA.
The Cab Calloway single was a cover of the Buddy Starcher country hit.
The Live Wires may have been a Feldman-Gotteherer-Goldstein studio
concoction.
Vito and the Salutations - one of the final record s by Brooklyn
white doowoppers with a string of releases on Rayna, Kram, Herald,
Wells, Red Boy, Sandbag, Apt, Regina and Rust.
"I Want .." is the old Lillian Briggs song also recorded soon after
by Ellie Greenwich as her first fir United Artists.
The Concords - another group of white doowoppers - Mike Lewis of the
group has been involved as a writer / producer on dozens of obscure
and not-so-obscure records which are definitely Spectropop material.
Dean Parrish - beloved of the Northern Soul fraternity, all his
records are worth seeking out. My favourite is "Turn On Your Love
Light" which would have given Mitch Ryder a run for his money.
I've no idea where the Bobby Hebb tracks originate - possibly old
demos issued to cash in on his success at Philips.
Anybody knowe anything about Tammy Wayne, the Quarternotes and Gary
and The Lovelites - all three seem to be one-shots. same goes for
Shep Grant - he had an earlier single on Musicor but that's about
all I know of him.
Davie Gordon
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 12:25:49 -0400
From: Joe Nelson
Subject: Re: Skeeter Davis, R.I.P.
Mick Patrick:
> I've posted a track to musica, "Optimistic" (RCA 47-7928, 1961);
> not a Goffin/King number, but beautiful nonetheless, and an
> excellent example of the countrypolitan style, of which Skeeter
> and her producer, Chet Atkins, were pioneers.
Now accompanied at musica by another track with another approach, her
take on the Arthur Hamilton classic "Cry Me A River". Taken from a
"standards" album, I first opted for the leadoff track "When I Fall In
Love", but changed my mind in favor of the track I felt she was able
to transform most into her style. Should not have had to be posted
under these circumstances.... so sad.
Joe Nelson
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 20:52:46 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Welcome, new member Claire Francis
Claire Francis:
> My name is Claire Francis. I was head of A&R for Polydor in London
> for a few years in the sixties. While I was there, I recorded myself
> as an artist. I recorded "But I Don't Care" and "I've Got My Own
> Thing Going", for Polydor records in the 60's, along with several
> other records...
Martin Roberts:
> Well how cool to see your message pop-up on the site... If there was
> room on 'musica' I'm sure someone would play a track or two as a
> welcome and introduction to those that haven't heard any of your
> music.
Say no more, Claire's masterpiece, "But I Don't Care", released on UK
Polydor 56142 in 1967, is now playing at musica, S'pop's listening
lounge. Just click here to hear it:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:25:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Robert Pingel
Subject: Re: Skeeter Davis, R.I.P.
Other than "I Can't Stay Mad at You", she also recorded a few other
Goffin-King gems; Let Me Get Close To You, Don't Let Me Stand In
Your Way, and Easy To Love. Such a wonderful singer.
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 13:28:52 -0400
From: Mikey
Subject: They All Wanna Sound Like Dion
Phil M;
> Speaking of Dion, the recent thread here about Dean & Jean set me
> to listening to their "Please Don't Tell Me Now," on vol. 2 of Ace's
> "Laurie Records Story" series ( http://tinyurl.com/5lwqo ), and being
> struck by how much, and how great, of a Dion cop it is. It'd make a
> very worthy substitute should you find yourself in a Dion frame of
> mind, but somehow with no actual Dion music at hand. (And wasn't
> another title in the category of Dion soundalike mentioned here
> recently?)
Just since we're on the topic, I have a whole bootleg Cd of Dion sound-
alikes called "So Why Did You Sing Like Me, Dion"??
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 11:29:57 -0700
From: Michael Godin
Subject: Andy Kim
Hi Fellow Spectropoppers,
Thought you would be interested to know that Andy Kim was a guest on
my show, Treasure Island Oldies, this week for 45 minutes. We played
various hits of his and also talked about his career as a very
successful writer, working with the Brill Building folks, including
Jeff Barry. Played his new single, "I Forgot To Mention" co-written
with Ed Robertson from the Barenaked Ladies. The show is archived and
available for listening 24/7 at http://www.TreasureIslandOldies.com
and clicking on Listen to latest show in Real Audio. The one hour
feature is in the 2nd hour of the 4-hour show.
Cheers.
Michael Godin
Treasure Island Oldies
The Home of Lost Treasures
http://www.TreasureIslandOldies.com
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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 20:10:16 +0100
From: Ian Slater
Subject: Gillian Hills and Eight Feet
Me:
> ... and (Gillian Hills') well known short raunchy appearance in
> Antonioni's "Blow Up"
Al Kooper:
> Not well known to me. What'd she do/play? I'm intrigued by the
> adjective "raunchy"."
Erm...well, the scene consisted of Miss Hills and Jane Birkin cavorting
naked in front of a fashion photographer played by David Hemmings. I
think they were seeking to become models. It was all about trendy 60s
London, with some unlikely plot about a murder scene appearing dimly in
the background of some outdoor photos. The Hills' scene was mentioned
before recently by another member - but I can't find the entry.
While conversing with you Al, (and mopping my steamed-up spectacles),
can I ask about one of my all-time favourite records? You and Irwin
Levine wrote and produced "Bobby's Come a Long, Long Way" which was
recorded by a girl group called "Eight Feet" on Columbia 4-43505. You
mentioned it in a posting in May in respnse to a request from member
thirteen_eagle when you said you preferred the folksy flip "What Am I
Without You?". Another great track but "Bobby" is an absolute classic
girl-group record. Can you rember much about the recordings, the group
& who they were, whether there were other tracks recorded, anything at
all please?
Ian Slater
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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 20:41:07 +0100
From: Ian Slater
Subject: Re: Skeeter Davis, R.I.P.
Thanks Mick and others for the sad news about the passing of Skeeter
Davis. I'd like to recommend her autobiography "Bus Fare to Kentucky".
Briefly, Skeeter had a very poor and tough rural upbringing and first
achieved success as the junior half of the Davis Sisters with her
friend Betty Jack Davis (Skeeter was really Mary Frances Penick). They
had a hit with their version of "I Forgot more than You'll ever Know"
in the early 50s, so Skeeter was quite a veteran. After a tragic car
crash killed Betty Jack, she continued for a while with the latter's
sister before going solo. The start of her career was very much driven
by the bullying of Betty Jack's mother. The Bear Family collection
"Memories - The Davis Sisters" is a comprehensive collection of her
earliest material as part of a duo with excellent documentation.
Ian Slater
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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 21:28:45 +0100
From: Kevin Higham
Subject: Introduction
Just to introduce myself to the group. Kevin Higham, UK-based, listen to
USA R&B, which in the UK is split Vocal Harmony, R&B, Soul, Northern
Soul, Deep, Southern, Motown, etc., as well as Modern/Crossover. I also
listen to Blues, Soulful Reggae, Bluebeat, oh and even some '50s and '60s
Gospel, which seems had to get to hear!
So "I have my ears wide open" and give most tunes a try. I prefer USA 45s
myself, but have a growing number of CDs; all the LPs gone now, though.
Hope to contribute if and when I can.
Cheers,
krh68
MotownDirect ~ Live a Life, Free and Easy
Listen to Soul on http://www.live365.com/stations/krh68uk
Visit the website www.raremusicdirect.co.uk
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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 05:15:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: nuzzster
Subject: Re: Gillian's Hills
Phil M. wrote:
> One of those two scenes was sped up, for comic effect, but now I
> can't remember which one it was.
It was "Clockwork Orange". Maybe they should have scored it with "Yakkety
Sax" instead of the "William Tell" Overture ...
Norm D.
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Message: 23
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 22:56:46 +0200
From: Jens Koch
Subject: Re: Del Shannon box set (some details)
The Bear Family site lists the Del Shannon box at Eur 168,73, which may
sound like a lot but works out to just 16,87 per disc, without calculating
for the book. The exact release date is now listed as November 8.
Jens
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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 14:02:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Remembering Jim Croce
It's hard to believe that it's been thirty years since my friend Jim Croce
went down in a plane crash. At the exact time of his passing, Patti
Dahlstrom (who'd introduced me to him) and I were writing a song
that we turned into a message to Jim, "Sending My Good Thoughts
To You". You can click on http://artiewayne.com/sending.html and
hear Patti's 20th Century recording.
We're thinking about you.
Regards,
Artie
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Message: 25
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 20:49:46 -0000
From: Tom K White
Subject: Re: Sandy (with a Y) Shaw
It's the very same Sandie we know and love (?). I presume it's a misprint.
(Could you post a scan of the label(s))? "Einmal Glucklich ..." is simply her
UK hit recording of "Always Something There To Remind Me" with new
German lyrics. It's featured on the compilation "Wiederhopf In Mai", a fairly
comprehensive set of her German-language recordings.
Does anyone know what either of those German titles means, by the way? :-)
Tom K
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