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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Felman, Gottehrer, Goldstein - 60s discography
From: Michael Edwards
2. Isley Brothers; Billy J. Kramer
From: Michael Edwards
3. Hard Day's Night in D.C.
From: Alan Haber
4. Re: Grass Roots
From: ACJ
5. Monkees / D.W. Washburn
From: Lapka Larry
6. Re: Monkees - I Wanna Be Free
From: steveo
7. Grass Roots
From: Michael Edwards
8. Re: Uni-chord songs
From: jerophonic
9. Re: Weirdly grooved records
From: jerophonic
10. Re: DJ enunciation
From: Joe Nelson
11. "Angels Among Us"
From: Joe Nelson
12. Re: Uni-chord songs
From: Mike McKay
13. Re: more Uni-chord songs
From: Mike McKay
14. Re: Cilla Black vs. Dionne Warwick / Mina
From: Julio Niño
15. Re: Albeth Paris's new CD
From: Bill Reed
16. Re: Monkees - I Wanna Be Free
From: Mike McKay
17. Herman Gets His Revolver
From: Steve Harvey
18. "Miss Otis Regrets"
From: Phil Chapman
19. Re: "You Left The Water Running"
From: Al Kooper
20. Re: Feldman, Goldstein, Gottehrer - sixties discography
From: Austin Powell
21. Re: More On Commercial Music
From: paferra
22. Re: Uni-chord songs
From: Andrew Hickey
23. Re: Beatles, Mike Mac photo exhibits at the Smithsonian
From: Richard Havers
24. Re: Dionne vs. Cilla / Lulu vs. Aretha
From: paferra
25. Re: Grass Roots
From: ACJ
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 03:15:33 -0000
From: Michael Edwards
Subject: Felman, Gottehrer, Goldstein - 60s discography
David, thank-you for compiling and publishing this. I haven't read
it yet as I am going to print it out and read in bed. Hopefully,
the Admin team will consider setting up a special subsection for
F-G-G and include your listing. Definitely one of the great 60s'
songwriting/production teams. Your message captures the true spirit
of Spectropop. Totally.
Thanks again, David
Mike
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 03:27:10 -0000
From: Michael Edwards
Subject: Isley Brothers; Billy J. Kramer
John Fox writes:
> I myself have performed "Twist And Shout" 100s of times, and it
> never occurs to me to do anything but the Lennon version with that
> great G-G#-A-Bb-B-C ....C9 ending!
That's something you share with Billy J Kramer, John. Billy J got to
# 2 in the UK in 1963 with a slightly different version of "Do You
Want To Know A Secret". It was not a hit for him in the US.
When I saw Billy J Kramer in Boston a few years ago on one of those
British Invasion tours (you had to admire them going into Boston with
tour named as such) he sang it note for note as George did on their
UK "Please Please Me' LP (US: "Introducing The Beatles").
Mike
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 22:37:19 -0500
From: Alan Haber
Subject: Hard Day's Night in D.C.
For all you S'poppers in the Washington, D.C. area, mark your calendars
for next Friday, Feb. 6. A "newly-restored print" of A Hard Day's Night
will be shown, along with Ed Sullivan performances, at the American
Film Institute's Silver Theatre and Cultural Center in Silver Spring,
Maryland. Tix are cheap: $8.50.
There are shows at 7:00 pm and 8:50 p.m.-if you're able to go, I'd opt
for the 8:50 (my wife and I will be there, and we'd love to meet any
S'poppers who'll be there). Attending, and participating in a post-show
panel discussion, are Martin Lewis, who produced the latest HDN DVD, and,
most importantly, Bruce Spizer, who's written five top-flight Beatles
books that should be on every Beatles fan's bookshelf, including the
latest, about the Beatles coming to America (according to the AFI site,
he's going to autograph this one). I've long wanted to meet Spizer, and
here's my chance! And, to see HDN on the big screen again.sounds like a
night to me!
Check the following for more info:
http://silver.afi.com/afi_web/movie.asp?MID=A100000638
Boy, what a week for Beatlemaniacs like myself! I can hear those reports
of their flight to the U.S.A. on the radio.and, look at that: it's 77
W-A-Beatle-C dee-grees!
Alan
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 22:36:23 -0500 (EST)
From: ACJ
Subject: Re: Grass Roots
Y'know, all this discussion of the Grass Roots reminds me: When I was a
kid, one of my favorite singles was "I'd Wait A Million Years." And I
thought its B-side, "Fly Me To Havana," was one of the WEIRDEST things
I'd ever heard, especially that long percussion break. If I'd thought of
it sooner, I'd have suggested "FMTH" to Phil Milstein for his "Play The
Other Side" CD-R.
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:44:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Lapka Larry
Subject: Monkees / D.W. Washburn
Dear Clark:
Good analysis of the Monkees' single situation.
I remember that WABC in New York played several Monkees album cuts,
including "Mary Mary" and "She"--since that station was the
country's No. 1 pop music station at the time, perhaps that should
have signalled to Colgems and RCA that there was enough interest in
these cuts to warrant single releases.
Next question: why were there no single releases from the
Headquarters LP? Were they too much in the midst of the Kirshner
fallout, was this viewed as a lack of approval from RCA, or even a
punishment? Did any other band--other than the Beatles of course--
have a major album release during that period without a single 45
being released from it (at least in the U.S.)?
Larry Lapka
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:49:09 -0800 (PST)
From: steveo
Subject: Re: Monkees - I Wanna Be Free
lightning wrote:
> I Wanna Be Free was never released as a single. It
> appears on their first album, "The Monkees" (Colgems
> 101) and "The Monkees Greatest Hits" (Colgems 115)
Lightning,
Sorry, you're more or less right. It was a jukebox EP
in America (Colgems 101) and was a single in many
other countires, including Japan (RCA SS-1735). The EP
single I had was made in Mexico or Argentina.
Steveo
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 04:21:04 -0000
From: Michael Edwards
Subject: Grass Roots
Glenn writes:
> One critic said "the Grass Roots' hits would go on to influence a
> generation of new-wavers taken by their well-honed craftsmanship and
> economy of purpose."
Make that two critics, Glenn, because I agree with everything the
other critic said.
Two 70s' Grass Roots' tracks always worth playing: "Glory Bound" (co-
written by Steve Barri) and "The Runway" (Lambert-Potter).
Don't be too hard on Rhino, Glenn; they only had 36 slots to work
with – not a lot when you consider the Grass Roots' output over the
10 year period 1965-75
Mike
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 05:15:33 -0000
From: jerophonic
Subject: Re: Uni-chord songs
James Brown's great two-sided single "There Was a Time" b/w "I Can't
Stand Myself (When You Touch Me)" -- both one chord songs.
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 05:52:19 -0000
From: jerophonic
Subject: Re: Weirdly grooved records
Around 1980, Rhino put out "Henny Youngman's 128 Greatest Jokes", a
live LP. The sticker on the shrinkwrap said "Special Multi-track
(Trick Track) Mastering - The first comedy LP that never plays the
same twice". According to which groove you hit, you heard a
different show. (Different jokes for different folks.)
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 01:20:20 -0500
From: Joe Nelson
Subject: Re: DJ enunciation
Reminds me of the myth that the Paul and George are singing "tit tit
tit" behind John's vocal on "Girl". It's "dit", not "tit", but the t's
run together and create the illusion.
Joe Nelson
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 01:21:55 -0500
From: Joe Nelson
Subject: "Angels Among Us"
Laura Pinto wrote:
> Ron (Dante) has recorded the lovely song "Angels Among Us," which
> will be included on his forthcoming CD. To hear an audio clip,
> visit http://www.rondante.com and click on the link on his homepage.
Is this the same song Alabama recorded a number of years back?
Joe Nelson
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 03:40:18 EST
From: Mike McKay
Subject: Re: Uni-chord songs
Loads of blues songs by Howlin' Wolf qualify, including most notably
"Moanin' at Midnight" and "Spoonful."
"Lickin' Stick, Lickin' Stick" by James Brown never moves off of E9.
There's The Beatles' "Tomorrow Never Knows" (though a dominant 7th
is played against the root at the end of each verse, so that takes
away from it somewhat).
"Pushin' Too Hard" has only two chords, Bm and A, repeated throughout.
LIkewise "I'm Alright" by The Stones (E and C#m).
Mike
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 03:44:36 EST
From: Mike McKay
Subject: Re: more Uni-chord songs
Yes, and also "Sunny South Kensington," I believe.
Mike
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 15:14:39 -0000
From: Julio Niño
Subject: Re: Cilla Black vs. Dionne Warwick / Mina
Hola Everybody.
Although I´ve read that Burt Bacharach especially likes Cilla´s
version of "Alfie", I hate that version. Everytime I listen to
it I need a Valium to calm me down. In my opinion, Cilla´s voice
suffocates completely the subtle melody of the song. I think most
of Bacharach´s intricate and waving melodies fit better with the
kind of voices that seem to float over the music ( Dionne Warwick
or Lou Johnson are perfect examples).
P.S.: Mike, musica is currently full so I can´t play Mina´s song.
Can I send them to you via e-mail?.
Chao.
Julio Niño
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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 06:18:30 -0000
From: Bill Reed
Subject: Re: Albeth Paris's new CD
David Young:
> A big thank you to Bill Reed for his Albeth Paris/Paris Sisters
> update in Digest 1303. So great to hear that they have a website
> in the works, and that Albeth has a CD out (or out soon). No
> amount of Amazoning (including the Japanese site, since I know
> you're in Japan, Bill)
Going to Japan again on March 23rd, but alas I don't live there
full time. Wish I did. Anyone one wants info on ordering Albeth
Paris' CD can email me personally and I will be happy to give
them the info.
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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 04:13:12 EST
From: Mike McKay
Subject: Re: Monkees - I Wanna Be Free
Steveo wrote:
> "I Wanna Be Free" was a huge hit for the Monkees
> (Davy Jones specifically on vocal) and was released as a 45.
Not in the U.S. or the UK it wasn't.
> It may have been a "B" side originally to another hit, but it
> got a lot of airplay, and thus became a double-sided hit.
> I seem to remember a picture sleeve that accompanied the 45.
I don't think so. You're right that the song got a lot of airplay
and was a favorite of dewy-eyed teens fixating on Davy. But unless
I've missed something, it wasn't a single.
Mike
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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:13:01 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Herman Gets His Revolver
Dawn Eden has a funny story about Mr. Noone of the Hermits.
http://dawneden.com/blogger.html
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Hermits singer Peter Noone, who now calls himself "The Artist
Formerly Known as Herman," likes to tell a story that takes
place in 1966, when he was recording at Abbey Road, just
upstairs from the Beatles. It's one of those classic, possibly
apocryphal legends of the pop world.
He often crossed paths with the Fab Four—in fact, he says,
they used to steal the Hermits' gear. But nothing could prepare
him for the day when, as he tells it, he was sneaking a peek at
some tape boxes when he saw something so wonderful he could
hardly believe it.
He rang up his manager right away, unable to contain his wonder:
"The Beatles wrote a song for me!"
It was only later that he realized his mistake. The song, which
turned up on Revolver, was "For No One".
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Message: 18
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 01:50:10 -0000
From: Phil Chapman
Subject: "Miss Otis Regrets"
Rob Stride:
> For Spine-Shivering Performance and a HUGE epic ending, see Labelle
> /"Miss Otis Regrets", as mentioned previously by Phil C., who worked
> on it. I picked this single up at a jumble sale and was knocked out
> by it! I must have played it 40 times the first day I got it. My
> only problem is that it was scratched to hell, so if anybody has a
> decent copy please let me know. I have many versions of this song,
> but nothing comes as close to giving me palpitations as this little
> beauty.
Rob, grab those blood-pressure pills! We're in luck. Mick has a
copy (natch!) and has played it to musica. It would appear that it
was a UK only release. I only have the three titles on a well-worn
cassette. I also had a nice note offlist from Vicki, who confirmed
that it was indeed a Labelle session and not something I dreamt.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica
Phil C
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Message: 19
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 06:41:38 EST
From: Al Kooper
Subject: Re: "You Left The Water Running"
Bill Reed:
> And, of course, there was a posthumously overdubbed demo of
> "..Water Running" by Otis Redding that was released. I have
> always been very curious as to who produced the final recording.
Posthumous Otis almost always is his Keith Richards-at-the-time,
Steve Cropper. I would be surprised if it wasn't. I can always
call Dan Penn if neccessary.
Al Kooper
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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 12:19:22 -0000
From: Austin Powell
Subject: Re: Feldman, Goldstein, Gottehrer - sixties discography
Accidentally deleted the posting of F-G-G- productions,
but...... Can confirm Tongue Twistin' by Jennie Jordan
(Jamie 1237) was an F-G-G- Production. The B side was
"Baby We're Through".
Austin
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Message: 21
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 13:36:26 -0000
From: paferra
Subject: Re: More On Commercial Music
TD wrote:
> You could play the Kinks "You Really Got Me" and the
> audience would shout back "Stronger Than Dirt".
Glenn:
> The mention of which takes us back in the other direction,
> where we go from commercial jingles becoming pop songs instead
> of the other way around. But I really didn't want to start a
> thread on that topic. I just wanted to point out that on the
> Doors' "Touch Me", unless my ears are deceiving me, muffled
> under the horns in the last four notes of the song, the Doors
> are actually singing "Stronger Than Dirt"! Am I right?
Glenn - yes, I always thought so. Not only did we used to
sing "Stronger Than Dirt" along with the Doors, the DJs
usually would, too.
Guess you'd have to put your headphones on and listen to it a
couple of times, but even if you're wrong, you're not wrong alone :)
paferra
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Message: 22
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:02:01 +0100
From: Andrew Hickey
Subject: Re: Uni-chord songs
> Actually I believe it was just one chord throughout the whole song.
> Can anyone think of any other uni-chord songs? I can't believe that
> there are too many.
Tomorrow Never Knows by The Beatles (although the bass
implies a change at one point, it's all written over one chord)
Pablo Picasso by Jonathan Richman
Coconut by Harry Nilsson
Hallelujah by Stealth Munchkin ;)
(my own band for those who don't know)
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Message: 23
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 13:46:43 +0000
From: Richard Havers
Subject: Re: Beatles, Mike Mac photo exhibits at the Smithsonian
On 31 Jan 2004, at 21:35, Alan Haber wrote:
> Just got back from a whirlwind walk around 70 or so previously-unseen
> photos of the Beatles, documenting their arrival in the U.S. in 1964,
> their appearances on the Ed Sullivan Show, and performance at the
> Washington (D.C.) Coliseum. These photos, taken by Life magazine
> photog Bill Eppridge, are simply astounding, and simply breathe life
> before your very eyes (not so in the well-overpriced catalog, selling
> for a mere $34.95 in the National Museum of American History's Music
> Shop).
Last year I was asked to go and look at a collection of Beatles
photographs held by the University of Dundee. They have around 500,
taken during the making of 'A Hard Day's Night'. Here is a link that
gets you some way towards seeing what they have.
http://www.dundee.ac.uk/pressoffice/contact/2002/November/beatlesphotos.html
Richard
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Message: 24
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 13:58:50 -0000
From: paferra
Subject: Re: Dionne vs. Cilla / Lulu vs. Aretha
Steveo wrote:
> Paul Bryant writes that Cilla Black performs "Alfie"
> better than Dionne Warwick, and that also on his next
> post he will explain why Lulu is a better singer than
> Aretha Franklin. I don't think so on the Dionne/Cilla
> issue. On the second issue, Lulu is a great singer, but
> the styles between Aretha and her are very different.
Steveo and Paul - this is entirely my personal opinion, but
I must concur with you in part, Steveo. I think it's more a
matter of who's style you prefer.
Paul - yes, Lulu really does have a great voice :) and
a wonderful sound - still does, too! But if anything
(again, my opinion), I believe that Aretha Franklin -
especially in her heyday - always had much more lung
power and flexibility in her voice than Lulu ever did.
paferra
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Message: 25
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 10:31:38 -0500 (EST)
From: ACJ
Subject: Re: Grass Roots
Dan Hughes, You're right, the original "Midnight Confessions"
was by the Ever-Green Blues (as they were billed on the label).
I used to have that single, but it was fragile and broke apart
after only a few months - a common problem, I'm told, with
Mercury and Mercury-related singles around that time.
ACJ
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