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  • Date: 06/11/98
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           Volume #0098                          June 12, 1998       
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    Subject:     "19th Nervous Breakdown" in stereo
    Sent:        06/11/98 4:41 am
    Received:    06/11/98 10:03 am
    From:        Marc Wielage, XXX@XXXrax.com
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXies.com
    
    Billy G. Spradlin  commented on the Spectropop 
    List [about The Stones "19th Nervous Breakdown" in stereo]:
    
    >It appears in true stereo on the London (UK) "Hot Rocks" Volume 2
    >CD, I don't think its in print anymore.
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    Nope, I wish that was so, but it isn't. I have that somewhat rare 
    1986 British CD (on London 820-141-2), and while "Get Off My Cloud," 
    "Let's Spend the Night Together," "Mother's Little Helper," "
    Paint It, Black", and "Play with Fire" are in stereo, "19th 
    Nervous Breakdown" is still in mono, as are the rest of the tracks.
    
    If anybody has info on where "19th Nervous Breakdown" can be found
    in stereo, preferably on CD, I'd very much appreciate the info.
    
    
    --MFW
    
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    Subject:     Re: "19th Nervous Breakdown" in Stereo
    Sent:        06/11/98 3:15 pm
    Received:    06/12/98 1:14 am
    From:        Brad Elliott, surfXXX@XXXline.net
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXies.com
    
    Billy G. Spradlin (bilXXX@XXXe.net) wrote:
    
    >>There are quite a few stereo rarities out there that I'm still 
    >>looking for. If anybody has a lead on the stereo mix of The Stones
    >>' "19th Nervous Breakdown" (played by a few oldies stations in 
    >>syndication), let me know!
    >
    > It appears in true stereo on the London (UK) "Hot Rocks" Volume 2 
    > CD, I dont think its in print anymore. 
    
    First of all, the song is on HOT ROCKS 1, but more importantly, 
    unless there were two differently mastered runs of this, it just 
    ain't so. I have had the UK CD of HOT ROCKS 1 for a decade and, 
    while there are several rare stereo versions included ("Heart of 
    Stone," "Play With Fire" and "Satisfaction"), it does NOT include 
    "19th Nervous Breakdown" in stereo. The entire album is stereo, 
    with two exceptions -- "19NB" and "As Tears Go By" are in mono! I,
    too, would love to know where the stereo "19NB" comes from, as I've
    been looking for it for several years now and just cannot find it! 
    But the fact that it's been distributed in syndication means it 
    has to come from somewhere! Help!
    
    Surf's up!
    Brad
    
    
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    Subject:     RE: One more Vaudeville track
    Sent:        06/11/98 3:32 am
    Received:    06/11/98 10:03 am
    From:        Javed Jafri, jjaXXX@XXXgers.com
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXies.com
    
    Marty Rudnick, mrudnXXX@XXXo.com wrote:
    
    >How about "Lady Godiva" by Peter & Gordon?
    
    /Marty
    
    I left this off my first post but there's also "Grizzly Bear" by the
    Youngbloods which I think just "barely" cracked the Top 40 in early 1967.
    
    Javed
    
    
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    Subject:     Re: Chiffons
    Sent:        06/11/98 4:46 am
    Received:    06/11/98 10:03 am
    From:        Billy G. Spradlin, bilXXX@XXXe.net
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXies.com
    
    At 02:55 AM 6/11/98 +0900, you wrote:
    >Billy - 
    >
    >You're the man! I thought I'd get to be the first to mention 
    >"Nobody Knows...Mind but Me" but you beat me to it! Wasn't that 
    >written by Brute Force (or is that something else I made up) ??
    >
    >GREAT song!
    >
    >Marc
    
    LOL, Yes he wrote that song. Theres two other great songs by him 
    on the ACE Chiffons "Greatest Recordings" CD. "Tonight Im Gonna 
    Dream" and "The Heavenly Place" that were released on a single in 
    1965!
    
    Billy
    
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    Subject:     Stereo/Mono Singles
    Sent:        06/11/98 4:43 am
    Received:    06/11/98 10:03 am
    From:        Javed Jafri, jjaXXX@XXXgers.com
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXies.com
    
    
    ><< Hey, today I heard a stereo version of Unchained Melody by the
    >Righteous Brothers. Is this a big deal or not? >>
    >
    >No its been out for years, the Righteous Brothers stuff has always
    >been available in stereo as far as I know.
    >Paul URbahns
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    >>There are quite a few stereo rarities out there that I'm still
    >>looking for. If anybody has a lead on the stereo mix of The Stones'
    >>"19th Nervous Breakdown" (played by a few oldies stations in
    >>syndication), let me know!
    >
    >It appears in true stereo on the London (UK) "Hot Rocks" Volume 2
    >CD, I dont think its in print anymore.
    >
    >Billy G. Spradlin>>
    
    These posts about stereo mixes reminded me about the 
    disappointment I felt recently when I purchased two Rhino comps. I
    think they were called "The Summer Of Love Vol. 1 & 2". The comps 
    included 16 songs each and featured artists such as The Lovin' 
    Spoonful, Rainy Daze, Donavan, Sonny& Cher, Grassroots, 
    Peanut butter Conspiracy and Electric Prunes (circa 1966 to 68). I 
    already have most of this stuff on Vinyl but not necessarily on CD
    so the comps looked good to me. I was disappointed to find that 
    most of the mixes were from the original singles and in mono. Out 
    of the 32 tracks only a few are in stereo.
    
    I know in Canada most of the singles released till at least 1970 
    were in mono with the very rare stereo mixes. I have quite a few 
    American pressings of singles from 1968 to 70 and some of these 
    are in stereo. When did American companies start to release 
    singles predominantly in Stereo? Some of the stereo songs on my 
    recent Rhino comp include "Twelve Thirty" by the Mamas & Papas and
    "Lets Live For Today" by the Grassroots both of which are from 1967. 
    My question is, were these songs released in both mono and 
    stereo as singles or only stereo? I'm just surprised there were 
    not more stereo versions on the Rhino comps.
    
    Javed
    
    
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    Subject:     Summer Of Love (1967)
    Sent:        06/11/98 8:15 am
    Received:    06/11/98 10:03 am
    From:        Javed Jafri, javedjaXXX@XXX.ca
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXies.com
    
    A little correction to my last post. I mentioned that "The Summer 
    Of Love" comps on Rhino, included material from 1966 to 68. The 
    Summer Of Love of course was in 1967 and for the most part the 
    songs on the comp came out in 67. There were a few songs that were
    released in the latter part of 1966. One song "Get Together" by The
    Youngbloods was originally released in 1967 but peaked on the 
    charts in 1969. In any case a great time for pop music and 
    probably my favorite era.
    
    Javed
    
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    Subject:     Chiffons
    Sent:        06/12/98 2:36 am
    Received:    06/12/98 2:43 am
    From:        le_page_XXX@XXXies.com
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXies.com
    
    Jack Madani wrote:
    
    >It suddenly struck me that we've had precious little mention of
    >the Chiffons, and yet on any short list of favorite girl-group 
    >songs, One Fine Day and Sweet Talking Guy always make it for me.
    
    Me too! I would say the Chiffons are one of the best New York girl 
    groups ever.
    
    Billy G. Spradlin wrote:
    
    >"Nobody Knows What's Goin' On (In My My Mind but Me) is a 
    >brilliant record that should have gotten higher than #49 in 1965.
    
    To which Marc Miller replied:
    
    >Billy - You're the man! I thought I'd get to be the first to mention 
    >"Nobody Knows...Mind but Me" but you beat me to it! Wasn't that 
    >written by Brute Force (or is that something else I made up) ??
    >
    >GREAT song!
    
    Wonderful to read of other listers finding this particular track 
    to be extraordinary. This is simply a perfect pop record in my 
    estimation. The reverb. The harp glissando. The monotone hook. The
    way the track builds. The simple but effective play on words:
    
    "What do they know?
    No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
    Nobody knows what's going on in my mind but me"
    
    Start to finish, this is one heck of a three minute pop record! 
    "Nobody..." works for me in ways similar to Brian Wilson's best 
    records from the same period. (!)
    
    btw, who is Brute Force?
    
    Back to Jack, who wrote: 
    
    >Sweet Talking Guy has the most outrageous ending, with 
    >every extant theme from earlier in the song being reprised all 
    >at once during the fadeout. I mean, you could have them stop 
    >singing and simply chant out the varying rhythmic patterns, and
    >it would still be an amazing thing.
    
    I agree, and I especially like this record because, being a very 
    late GG release, it shows how the genre could have evolved had it 
    not been victim of Brit Invasion and changing cultural attitudes. 
    I hear elements of vocal pop (e.g., Mamas & Papas/Brian Wilson) 
    and soft rock (e.g., Left Banke/Association) in Sweet Talking Guy.
    
    Let's not forget Goffin-King's "One Fine Day," either, which was 
    also very good. I am fairly certain the backing track for this is 
    another Dimension recording originally demoed by Little Eva, and 
    that's Carole King herself featured on the memorable piano riff.
    
    As Billy said, the Ace CDCH 293 release is amazing. Up On The 
    Bridge is a such a cool (as in breezy) record; the organ and 
    trumpet on this track are just so endearing.
    
    The thing I like very most about the Chiffons records is the 
    lyrical approach. Classic GG combination of unrequited love, 
    adolescent joy of dating, and broken hearts. The song titles alone
    say it all:
    
    Did You Ever Go Steady
    Keep the Boy Happy
    When the Boy's Happy the Girl's Happy Too
    I Have a Boyfriend
    
    Most casual fans know the Chiffons as the group with the classic 
    "doo-lang, doo-lang" riff, others as the group who recorded the 
    song George Harrison "borrowed" in 1970 for "My Sweet Lord." Call 
    their work derivative if you will, but I love the Motown, Crewe and 
    Spector touches. The Chiffons are tops in my book.
    --
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