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There are 6 messages in this issue of Spectropop.

Topics in this Digest Number 417:

      1. Re:klub nites
           From: James Botticelli 
      2. Mark Wirtz - Philwit & Pegasus
           From: Mark Frumento 
      3. Shannon; Light; Grape
           From: "Paul Payton" 
      4. Re: Baby Jane Holzer
           From: Dave Gardner 
      5. Re  Baby Jane
           From: Simon White 
      6. Re: from Mark Wirtz to group
           From: Michael Sinclair 


Message: 1
   Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 23:54:03 EST
   From: James Botticelli 
Subject: Re:klub nites

> Thanks everybody for your help,

you deserve no wishes on your klub nite...a
cautionary attachment however...don't expect big things.
these things are wonderful conceptually, but the receipts
and extras at the cash register really spell out the
future of "the night" of special music.JB/its all about
the paper

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Message: 2
   Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 00:56:08 -0500
   From: Mark Frumento 
Subject: Mark Wirtz - Philwit & Pegasus

Maybe Mark can tell us all if the Philwit and Pegusus
album is going to see the light of day again. There are
two tracks on the "Fantastic Story of..." set but that is
clearly just a tease. The album is attainable for a high
price but from the two tracks I've heard it deserves a
bigger audience. Of course John Carter who we discussed
earlier is on the album as well.

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Message: 3
   Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:17:27 -0500
   From: "Paul Payton" 
Subject: Shannon; Light; Grape

As the long-haired folks of the 60's used to say, "Check
your source." Further rambling around
[snip url] (the Del Shannon story) reveals the site to
be sponsored by Sci******gy, a group that regularly
rails against pharmaceutical psychiatry, real or
imagined. Take that for whatever it's worth to you, pro
or con.

Dan Hughes mentions Clear Light and Moby Grape. I was in
radio at the time, and we played both groups extensively
at WBRU in Providence. Clear Light had a couple of prime
psych tracks, but solid promotion from Elektra never
reached us - we wouldn't be caught dead reading Hit
Parader! Moby Grape had the opposite problem - overhype
>from Columbia, including the album and all its tracks on
45's release simultaneously. My copy of the LP walked
away, but I still have the 45's in their picture sleeves!
While Clear Light didn't have a hit, Moby Grape did with
"8:05," and had many FM turntable hits as well, such as
It's A Beautiful Day Today," "Hey Grandma," and "Truck
Drivin' Man" (not the country classic). I firmly believe
the group would have been as huge as the hype said
they'd be - if only they hadn't had so much hype.

And welcome, Mark Wirtz - um, Mr. Sinclair!

Country Paul

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Message: 4
   Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 18:35:59 EST
   From: Dave Gardner 
Subject: Re: Baby Jane Holzer

In a message dated 3/15/02, Ian writes:

> ....the only 45 release I could find on the ex-Warhol
> starlet is the amazing and pretty fab "Rapunzel", the
> greatest piece of girl-group kitsch ever! 

i think the flipside's the real killer...the brat/punk
"Nowhere" just aching to be comped (or covered)....

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Message: 5
   Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 16:12:25 +0000
   From: Simon White 
Subject: Re  Baby Jane

Rashkovsky ( who lives)  wrote;

> I believe Bob Crewe produced something with BJ Holzer.

Aha ! This would tie in with " Gonna Hurt Yourself " But
where ? More problems...!

Satan, let me sleep tonight....

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Message: 6
   Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 03:30:32 -0000
   From: Michael Sinclair 
Subject: Re: from Mark Wirtz to group

Thanks everyone for the kind emails.

--- Luis Suarez wrote:

> Welcome Mr. Wirtz! I have so many questions, about the
> Matchmakers especially, but also about Father's Brown,
> Judd, Samantha Jones and Kris Ife, but I'll leave them
> for later. For now, thank you for the wonderful music.

I look forward to your questions. One thing though -
I've never heard of Father's Brown. Am I supposed to
have had something to do with them?


"Joseph Scott" wrote:

>  What kind of conversations do you remember having
> with your groups about that reality, as you were
> discussing approaches to take on particular recordings?
> Second question -- as far as you know, is the following
> Steve Howe recollection about Tomorrow correct? "I believe
> that Mark Wirtz sings the harmony that goes 'my white
> bicycle'; there's a downward harmony that goes with Keith.
> I think that's Mark.... [Otherwise] Keith does all the
> harmonies himself...."

In answer to your questions - 01 ) Frankly, neither I, nor most of the artists/musicians
I worked with intellectualized much about what we were
doing - we just felt it and did it. Speaking for myself,
I applied prudence and measured shrewdness in some
productions that were "contrived" to "please" the ears of
unimaginative promo men or A&R staff. But when it came to
MY kind of music, had I even dared to use logic or
"reason" or "standards," my work would not only have been
disasters, but never even have been possible, because it
was quite "outrageous" in its day (my defiance of musical
conformity was MY Rock'n'Roll, instead of screaming
guitars). In fact, Geoff Emerick and I spent most of our
time making the seemingly impossible possible. That was
our adventure - often scary and heartbreaking when we
failed, more often magical and pure ecstacy when we

2) The harmonies to Keith's "White Bicycle"? Chances are
I did sing them, as I did quite of bit of it here and
there. But to be honest, I can't be sure. So, let's just
say that Steve is correct, LOL


Frank wrote:

> A warm welcome to one of the best from a French fan.
> Frank
Thank you. I didn't even know that my music was known in
France. Kinda nice to hear otherwise, considering I was
born near Strasbourg/Alsace.


Paul Richards wrote:
> Welcome to Spectropop, Mr Wirtz, I can't tell you how much I
> adore your music. It's fantastic to have contact with one
> of my biggest heroes. I've just been watching a promo of
> 'Teenage Opera' with Keith West in the woods surrounded by
> children, unfortunately there's a synching problem with
> picture & sound, but it's still great. Do you know if any
> other film/tv clips exist of your work? 

Hello Paul, thanks for your mail. Nice to hear from you.
As it were, there is a terrific 30 minute documentary on
Teenage Opera, Keith and me, filmed by a Dutch TV station
(a film crew visited me here for several days to shoot my
interviews). There is some awesome footage in that video
and never before seen clips. How to get hold of a copy?
Contact Mark Stratford of RPM Records...
he might be able to help you. If all else fails, contact
me again, and I'll make you a copy of the original I have

Very best to each of you!


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