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There are 18 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Another Living Legend on Spectropop!!
           From: "Martin Roberts" 
      2. Re: from Mark Wirtz to group
           From: Paul Richards 
      3. Mark Wirtz
           From: Frank 
      4. Two questions for Mark Wirtz
           From: "Joseph Scott" 
      5. Dynovoice/Club 45/Spectropop
           From: Leonardo 
      6. nick and irma
           From: "David Bell" 
      7. Re: from Mark Wirtz to group
      8. The Pushbike Song
           From: "Javed Jafri" 
      9. Re: Remember Me - Rita Pavone
           From: Andrew Simons 
     10. Remember Me?  It's Rita Pavone!
           From: "Vlaovic B" 
     11. Re: Remember Me - Rita Pavone
           From: "Jan Kristensen" 
     12. sincere thanks
           From: Freeman Carmack 
     13. Re: John Pantry/Birdwatchers
           From: Mark Frumento 
     14. Re: John Pantry
           From: "Norman" 
     15. Re: John Pantry/Girl I've Got News For You
           From: "Jeffrey Glenn" 
     16. Interesting video site
           From: "Paul Payton" 
     17. Re: "Waiting for the Sun"/"The Love God?"
           From: Deena Canale 
     18. Re  Baby Jane
           From: Michael Rashkow


Message: 1
   Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 21:37:03 -0000
   From: "Martin Roberts" 
Subject: Another Living Legend on Spectropop!!

Welcome Mark Wirtz,

How great to have you in the group. I for one have LOADS of
questions. Will I be as rude when I know you're reading my
comments? Emmm, maybe not! To start, one LP release that
has always intrigued me is "Ten Again". For those who don't
know the album it's on the World Record Club (Finest On
Record) T 452 (released 1965?), sepia brown album photo
cover of young trendys in a discotheque but it's the back
cover that's of the most interest. Wonderful sleeve notes
on the three main participants:- "Mark Wirtz-known in the
business as "Mark-boom boom-Wirtz"..."His ambition for the
future, believe it or not, is to be a comedian!", "Belle
Gonzalez born in Milan of a Polish father and a
Filipino-Spanish-Chinese mother-which makes her a very good
singer!" and "Russ Loader ..His real name!...ambition is
not simply to be a pop singer-but to be a good pop singer."
Great Stuff! The album is split, Belle side 1, Russ side 2,
singing (beside Russ on "Just Lies" and Sunday Night an
instrumental-both Mark Wirtz compositions) five 'pop
standards', "Memories Are Made of This", "Autumn Leaves",
"It's Not Unusual" etc. All are produced by Mark, very
polished, a lot add some great twists, Ladybirds on backing
and Reg Guest on piano. Great Stuff! The first question is
obviously:- Where did it all go wrong? World famous
producer, composer & arranger and published author. What
happened with the comedy?! Second question:- What's the
story with producing this album?


PS What's the story with producing those sex kittens known
as Sheila & Jenny?? 

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Message: 2
   Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 14:38:17 -0000
   From: Paul Richards 
Subject: Re: from Mark Wirtz to group

--- In Spectropop, Michael Sinclair wrote:
> I would like to extend heartfelt thanks to all those of
> you who are enjoying my music, it means a lot to me. If
> you have any questions or comments, I'd be happy to hear
> from you.
> Very best,
> Mark Wirtz (AKA, Michael Sinclair)

Welcome to Spectropop, Mr Wirtz, I can't tell you how much I
adore your music. It's fantastic to have contact with one
of my biggest heroes. I've just been watching a promo of
'Teenage Opera' with Keith West in the woods surrounded by
children, unfortunately there's a synching problem with
picture & sound, but it's still great. Do you know if any
other film/tv clips exist of your work? 

Paul Richards

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Message: 3
   Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 08:05:58 +0100
   From: Frank 
Subject: Mark Wirtz

A warm welcome to one of the best from a French fan.

le 18/03/02 3:02, Michael Sinclair wrote:
> I would like to extend heartfelt thanks to all those of
> you who are enjoying my music, it means a lot to me. If
> you have any questions or comments, I'd be happy to hear
> from you.
> Very best,
> Mark Wirtz (AKA, Michael Sinclair)

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Message: 4
   Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:11:14 -0700
   From: "Joseph Scott" 
Subject: Two questions for Mark Wirtz

Welcome to the group, Mark!

First question -- as a subset of pop went "progressive"
and experimental very quickly during 1966 to 1968, the pop
groups who were quite interested in that avenue were, at
some time or another, going to find themselves up against
the reality that generally, a first-rate record in a more
straightforward pop style is more likely to do well on the
charts (thus allowing the group to establish itself, etc.)
than a first-rate record in a more odd style. What kind of
conversations do you remember having with your groups
about that reality, as you were discussing approaches to
take on particular recordings?

Second question -- as far as you know, is the following
Steve Howe recollection about Tomorrow correct? "I believe
that Mark Wirtz sings the harmony that goes 'my white
bicycle'; there's a downward harmony that goes with Keith.
I think that's Mark.... [Otherwise] Keith does all the
harmonies himself...."

Best wishes,

Joseph Scott

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Message: 5
   Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 08:15:22 -0000
   From: Leonardo 
Subject: Dynovoice/Club 45/Spectropop


Thanks everybody for the advice and sympathy, The record
that I had ordered was The Little Bits Featuring Karyl
Mann The Feeling of Love/ The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine
Anymore Dynovoice (Dot)919 which is on the Dynovoice CD(
Thank you for wanting to record the Record for me but I
have the Dynovoice CD...Cheers!). If anybody can locate
another copy of the 45 would be great.

A couple of friends and I  are starting a 60's Soul club
in Hollywood called "Club 45" on May 25th at the Knitting
Factory. Being one of the DJ's I was planning to spin the
45 at the club as we only spin 45's. It was a great let
down that my copy was destroyed because I know none of my
friends ever heard the song and i know they would of just
gotten a kick out of it. 

If you're free that evening, please come come down to
Club 45 as I spin loads ofrRare Bob Crewe, Anders &
Poncia, BT Puppy, Kama Sutra soul 45's and I'm planning
to have a good vibe "House Record Party" atmosphere with
the club. 

I'm glad I stumbled across this site as this is the place
I've always dreamed about but never could find. It's good
to know that there are people in the world that when I
bring up a subject like "Map City" good people know what
I'm talking about rather than a blank "?" I get when I
usually talk with my friends (haha). 

Joey Stec: Thanks for recording such wonderful music. I'm
planning to take one of the photos for my LP at the site
of the Sundazed Millennium Booklet cover location out of
respect for your group...Thanks!!!

Thanks everybody for your help,

Leonardo Flores

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Message: 6
   Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 08:52:41 -0000
   From: "David Bell" 
Subject: nick and irma


I've dug out my Irma Thomas 45's and can offer the
following information.

1. Imperial 66041 - "Anyone Who Knows What Love Is"  is
arranged and conducted by H.B. Barnum and produced by
Eddie Ray. It's the same personnel for the flip side "Time
Is On My Side".

2. Imperial 66069 - "Times Have Changed"  is both produced
and arranged by Nick De Caro and "Moments To Remember"  is
produced by Nick and arranged by H.B. Barnum.

3. Imperial 66080 - "He's My Guy" is produced and arranged
by Nick whilst its flip side "(I Want A) True, True Love"
is produced by Nick but arranged by H.B. Barnum.

What a great interpreter of these songs Irma is!


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Message: 7
   Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 01:01:51 -0000
Subject: Re: from Mark Wirtz to group

Welcome Mr. Wirtz! I have so many questions, about the
Matchmakers especially, but also about Father's Brown,
Judd, Samantha Jones and Kris Ife, but I'll leave them
for later. For now, thank you for the wonderful music.

Luis Suarez

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Message: 8
   Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 21:43:21 -0500
   From: "Javed Jafri" 
Subject: The Pushbike Song

> Mick Flynn joined the Mixtures in 1967 and in 1970 the
> group covered Mungo Jerry's "In the Summertime"  The song
> went to #1 in Australia ( although the original received
> airplay on public broadcast stations a ban by commercial
> radio stations on some British records at the time gave
> the Mixtures an edge over the original). The Mixtures
> follow-up record was self penned "similar sounding"
> production called "The Pushbike Song". Not only did it
> reach #1 in Australia but the Brits took to it as well!
> Apparently, it reached #2 in UK and #44 on Billboard in
> the USA (Noel McGrath

Amazing the things you learn on this list. When I first
heard the Pushbike Song I was sure it had some Mungo Jerry
connection. I was surprised when I read in one of  Joel
Whitburn's Billboard books that the Mixtures were from
Australia. A brief description in the book was the only
info I had ever seen about the group and so I assumed they
had no connection to Mungo Jerry ( who were from Britain).
Well I finally found the connection.


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Message: 9
   Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:02:23 -0000
   From: Andrew Simons 
Subject: Re: Remember Me - Rita Pavone

Rita Pavone had many Italian records out at least through
the 1970s.  The few we seem to have at the British Library
National Sound Archive (1 LP, 01 single) are mid-60s tracks
cut in English.

Man Who Made Music/Newell     
Love, Geoff, 1917-1991        
Blackwell, Charles            
1SE0072452 S2 RCA

Wait And See/Adams                                
Don't Tell Me Not To Love Yo/Taylor 
Too Many/Carr                       
Say Goodbye To Bobby/Bryant         
Boy Most Likely To Succeed/Lewis    
Kissin' Time/Lowe                    
Big Deal/Andreen                     
I Can't Hold Back The Tears/Ross     
Just Once More/Western               
Like I Did/Damon           
Little By Little/Cooper                  
1LP0192574 11 RCA

One of my favourite 60s soul records is Mina's "Se

-Andrew Simons

Original Message from Ken Levine:
> All I know about Rita Pavone is that she was a guest on
> Ed Sullivan every other week.  Always introduced as
> "Italian bombshell Rita Pavone".
> Ken
> Original Message from Mike Anderson 
> > ...Remember Me...Could someone tell me a bit about the
> > artist and the recording? I did a little checking on
> > the Internet, and I see that Ms. Pavone has had hits
> > in several countries and languages. Any information
> > about Rita Pavone's career or this particular
> > recording would be appreciated. Has anyone else
> recorded this tune?

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Message: 10
   Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 16:24:42 -0000
   From: "Vlaovic B" 
Subject: Remember Me?  It's Rita Pavone!

Just kiding.  The Shirelles also recorded 'Remember Me'
but I believe it remained unreleased until it's issue on
the 1993 Ace Records compilation 'Kiss 'n Tell'.  Lovely
version too, with intro count-off by Shirley!

Rita Pavone also had a local hit in Toronto: 'Just Once
More' which hit #13 in July of 1964.....

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Message: 11
   Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 19:10:24 +0100
   From: "Jan Kristensen" 
Subject: Re: Remember Me - Rita Pavone

I don't know too much about Rita Pavone, but she was once
known as the "Little Queen of Italian Song" - she was very
small only 5 feet tall with a freckled face. Born 082345
in Turin, she first hit in Italy with "La partita di
pallone" (The football match)  in 1963. Her second hit was
an Italian version of a Mann-Weil song "Heart" In The USA
she hit with "Remember me" no 26 in 1964, in Britain with
"Heart" in 1966 and "You only you" in 1967.

She released 2 albums on RCA America in 1964. Among her
singles is Ballo del mattone/Cuore (RCA 8212),
Remember me /Just once more (RCA 8365), Wait for me/ It's
not easy (RCA 8420), Heart/The man who made music (RCA
9051), I don't want to be hurt /Eyes of mine (Victor
47-8538), Right now/Oh my mama (Victor 8612)  

Pavone recorded in several languages and had sold in the
field of ten million records by the end of 1970. She also
starred in a film "Rita the Mosquito" in 1966. I can't
tell if it's been shown outside Italy.

Hope this been to some help   - Jan K

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Message: 12
   Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 14:33:06 -0500
   From: Freeman Carmack 
Subject: sincere thanks

Thanks for all the kind, enthusiastic responses to my
request for information about Sunset Strip.

Hopefully, one day soon, I'll be able to visit the
places (or spaces) that I've been reading and dreaming
about for 30+ years.

My sincere thanks,

Freeman Carmack

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Message: 13
   Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 13:55:29 -0000
   From: Mark Frumento 
Subject: Re: John Pantry/Birdwatchers

--- In Spectropop, "Jeffrey Glenn" wrote:

> I've heard this LP through David Bash, and it's pretty
> terrific stuff.  And anyone game enough to try to cover
> The Garden Club's "Little Girl Lost-And-Found" is cool in
> my book, even though - to be brutally honest - it pales
> next to the 1968 A&M 

And it's probably the weakest cut on "Upside Down World of...".
His originals are absolutely amazing and the real reason
to track the album down.

> I doubt if much of his work has ever been released here in
> the U.S.

This is true. The main US release is the Wolfe album on
Rare Earth...which is quite strong all the way through. It
combines some wonderful orginal songs with tracks like
"Something in the Way She Moves", "Dancing in the
Moonlight", "Funny, Funny" and a really good English/Weiss
tune called "Ballad of the Unloved". This LP should be
reissued... it's that good.

About the Birdwatchers:
A private label released a whole album of their singles
back in the 80s. I have a copy of the LP and nearly every
song is a good one. My favorite is "I'm Gonna Do It To You".

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Message: 14
   Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 19:46:41 +1030
   From: "Norman" 
Subject: Re: John Pantry

Correction needed for my last entry:
At the end of the sixth paragraph it should read
Flynn later produced Donna Jones
as Pussyfoot ..... 

Flynn later produced Donna Jones
 as Pussycat ...

Sorry for the mistake.  I guess I can't get Toni Willie
out of my head.


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Message: 15
   Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 07:13:18 -0800
   From: "Jeffrey Glenn" 
Subject: Re: John Pantry/Girl I've Got News For You

> Jeffrey Glenn's info on John Pantry led me to put forward
> some of my info on The Springfield Revival.

Norman, thanks for the info on Springfield Revival.  I
was wondering what GTO stood for; now I know.  Wonder
what other records were released here in the U.S. under
their arrangement with Verve.

And there was a U.S. cover of "The Pushbike Song" by The
Great American Disaster on United Artists, but it didn't
chart (the #44 position for the Mixtures original is
correct, btw).

And I've played the Mardi Gras' version of "Girl I've Got
News For You" to musica.  Of the three versions up there,
I think this might be the best one (IMHO, of course,
though the Birdwatchers original is excellent too).


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Message: 16
   Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 00:20:17 -0500
   From: "Paul Payton" 
Subject: Interesting video site

While I usually blow away anything that looks like
advertising when it arrives via e-mail, I did check out, which
had some cool-looking

videos, both US and European, from the 50's and 60's. I
didn't check further as I'm not a video collector, nor do
I have any financial interest whatsoever in the site; but
if any of you are, some of the stuff looked pretty
interesting. I'd be curious to see what kind of discussion
this spurs.

Country Paul

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Message: 17
   Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 07:17:37 -0400
   From: Deena Canale 
Subject: Re: "Waiting for the Sun"/"The Love God?"

Ken Levine wrote:

>There's a great book called "Waiting for the Sun" by
>Barney Hoskyns that really gets into the Sunset Strip,
>circa the 60's.

Oh yeah, I forgot about this one.  I enjoyed it immensely,
and it covers the L.A. scene well beyond the Strip too,
>from the '40s to the present--but apparently it's not the
most accurate book on the subject.  To quote Art Fein in
his intro to "L.A. Rock & Roll History Tour": "And
recently an English bloke wrote a cynical book about
L.A.'s rock & roll history that was hailed by the
ignorami as spot-on.  In truth (a quality scattershot
through his tome) it stained only the writer, not the
city."  Oh well--guess we have to make do with what's

I saw an absolutely hysterical '60s comedy this
weekend--"The Love God?" with Don Knotts.  Whereas I find
most '60s comedies to be merely amusing, this one had me
in constant stitches from start to finish.  It's about a
mild-mannered birdwatching magazine publisher who is
forced to become a Hefneresque figurehead for a
sexploitation mag...Anne Francis and Edmund O'Brien are
in it too...and best of all, Darlene Love and the
Blossoms make an appearance, backed by some band called
Orange-Colored Sky, singing a Motownish/psychy paean to
Don Knotts' now-swingin' persona!  Highly recommended.

Signed D.C.  

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Message: 18
   Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 20:24:29 EST
   From: Michael Rashkow
Subject: Re  Baby Jane

I believe Bob Crewe produced something with BJ Holzer.

What or why are both questions I can't answer.

Rashkovsky ( who lives)

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