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Spectropop - Digest Number 413

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There are 23 messages in this issue of Spectropop.

Topics in this  Digest Number 413:

      1. Theremin....
           From: Joe Foster 
      2. Theremin Ballroom
           From: Joey Stec 
      3. Move over Ravi  Shankar. . .
           From: Bill Reed 
      4. Re: Lou Christie
           From: Will George 
      5. Re: Kiki, Mariah, Ella Mae, and marketing
           From: Billy G. Spradlin 
      6. Re: Lord Sitar & Tony Romeo
           From: James Botticelli 
      7. Still more Sitar/ Klaatu Box Set
           From: Leonardo 
      8. Re: Del Shannon
           From: "Ken Levine" 
      9. Re: Del Shannon
           From: "Mike Arcidiacono" 
     10. Re: Del Shannon
           From: "Robert Conway" 
     11. Re: Mark Eric / Lothar
           From: Jason Penick 
     12. Re:Map City Rekkids
           From: James Botticelli 
     13. StarSpector
           From: Guy Lawrence 
     14. Baby Jane Holzer / "You're Gonna Hurt Yourself"
           From: Simon White 
     15. Poppy Family
           From: Will George 
     16. Re: Del Shannon
           From: Billy G. Spradlin 
     17. Missing tracks, mumbled lyrics
           From: "Paul Payton" 
     18. Where Is He Now?
           From: "Martin Roberts" 
     19. Bubblegum Ball venue change
           From: Kim Cooper 
     20. Re: Rod McQueen / Peter Lee
           From: Paul Richards 
     21. Rod McQueen?
           From: James Botticelli 
     22. Ronnie Spector
           From: Roger Hollier 
     23. Re: Map City/Mark Wirtz
           From: "Jeffrey Glenn" 


Message: 1
   Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 15:26:27 +0000
   From: Joe Foster 
Subject: Theremin....

So....did anyone download the Theremin program?.....and
did anyone progress beyond Twilight Zone noises to Good



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Message: 2
   Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:48:36 EST
   From: Joey Stec 
Subject: Theremin Ballroom

Once again hello:

I was told by Lee Mallory today, more or less reminded
that on the Ballroom Album Curt Boettcher was ubable to
get his hands on a theremin and came up with two
oscillators that were from an old Hollywood movie
set...plugged them in a fender amp...and used them on 
Sun Arise .... For the record!

Joey Stec

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Message: 3
   Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 07:37:37 -0800 (PST)
   From: Bill Reed 
Subject: Move over Ravi  Shankar. . .

One of my favorite uses of the Electric Sitar is.....

I vote for the many tracks by Peggy Scott and Jo Jo
Benson, mostly prod. by Shelby Singleton for his SSS


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Message: 4
   Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 23:22:02 EST
   From: Will George 
Subject: Re: Lou Christie

I met Lou Christie a year ago at Jackie DeShannon's
concerts at The Bottom Line in NYC. I have to admit though,
I didn't know much about him except that he sang
"Lightining Strikes" so I didn't have a whole lot to talk
about with him. He looked good though, and he talked a bit
about his career, which is still going. Seemed like a nice
guy. I wish I had more to report.

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Message: 5
   Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 03:54:02 -0000
   From: Billy G. Spradlin 
Subject: Re: Kiki, Mariah, Ella Mae, and marketing

I remember TK Records doing the same thing with KC & The
Sunshine Band. On their first album "Do It Good" in 1974,
they put a picture of a afro'd black man with his back to
the camera. The next 2 albums had no group pics too. It
wasnt until they broke through to Top 40 then they put
him and his band's pictures on the inner jacket on the
"Part 2" LP (which was really thier fourth LP - huh?).  

I remember buying a couple of singles back then (OK so
they were super catchy, uh-huh!) and thinking the group
was all black - it was a big shock to see him on national
TV with an fully intregrated (white- black-hispanic-cuban)
band in 1976.

Disco Billy

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Message: 6
   Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 14:13:04 EST
   From: James Botticelli 
Subject: Re: Lord Sitar & Tony Romeo

In a message dated 3/13/02 , jeffrey glenn writes:

> Does anyone remember Lord Sitar and an album released on
> Capitol in the fall of '67, featuring almost lounge-like
> renditions of such songs as "Black Is Black", "Daydream
> Believer" and "I Can See For Miles"? A single (Capitol
> 5972) released in Aug, '67 had as its B-side the Rolling
> Stones "Have You Seen Your Mother Baby..", which was not
> on the LP.

Sure do!  add to this list "Pop Goes The Electric Sitar"
by Vinnie Bell and Chim Khotari "Plays 'Downtown' And
Other Hits"  PLUS any pop LP's by Ananda Shanker...JB

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Message: 7
   Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:01:23 -0000
   From: Leonardo 
Subject: Still more Sitar/ Klaatu Box Set

Great subject!

A sitar used on Klaatu's debut LP on the track Dr.
Marvello. Looking forward to the Klaatu Box Set and even
more forward to rare bonus tracks CD that is going to be
in the box set. Can't get enough of Klaatu as well!!!

"All Aboard Sub-Rosa Subway" 

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Message: 8
   Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 08:29:02 -0800
   From: "Ken Levine" 
Subject: Re: Del Shannon

----- Original Message from Keith Beach 

> Does anyone know why Del Shannon committed suicide? I
> read an obituary at the time that hinted at some dark
> secret...

I heard it was a bad reaction to Prozac or some other

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Message: 9
   Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:43:40 -0500
   From: "Mike Arcidiacono" 
Subject: Re: Del Shannon

"Keith Beach" wrote:
> Does anyone know why Del Shannon committed suicide? 

Its generally believed that when the powers that be told
him that he was not selected to be a Traveling Woodbury,
and that put him over the edge. He really wanted that.

What a waste of talent...Del could be making some great
music today in his original style had he lived.

His appearance on the David Lettermen show was a
killer.....did Runaway....the place went nuts.

Your Friend,


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Message: 10
   Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 09:59:00 -0600
   From: "Robert Conway" 
Subject: Re: Del Shannon

>From: "Keith Beach"

> Does anyone know why Del Shannon committed suicide? I read
> an obituary at the time that hinted at some dark
> secret... 

We'll probably never know the real reason until we lose
the theremin and gain the harp; however, the buzz at the
time was that Del Shannon was very depressed about not
making the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.  He had made a
comeback of sorts with Tom Petty, much in the same way
Gary Bonds made a comeback with the aid of The Boss,
although I don't know if the comeback or lack of its
hoped-for success contributed to further depression.
Anyhow, if Shannon was depressed in general then I imagine
most things he perceived as negative (like not making the
Hall) would only make the depression worse.

Bob Conway

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Message: 11
   Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:18:46 EST
   From: Jason Penick 
Subject: Re: Mark Eric / Lothar

Hey all, 

I just wanted to chip in and say that anybody in the Los
Angeles area really ought to go check out the Mark Eric
show Domenic Priore booked.  Mark's solo album is
phenominal and getting to see him perform these songs
after all these years is an oppertunity you don't want
to miss.  (Kinda like Arthur Lee performing the entire
FOREVER CHANGES in concert, but I digress...)

But as for Lothar & the Hand People... Well, put it this
way.  I haven't heard much music from the 1960's that I
would catogorize as "bad" or even "sub-par", but "Sex
and Violence" has to be the worst song I have ever heard.
Was this considered "revolutionary" in 1968?  Sounds
totally dated and trite today, IMO.

Joey Stec mentioned Lothar was out on the west coast,
but Joey, weren't these guys a New York act?  Seems to
me they fit right in with the likes of Autosalvage and
the New York R'n'R Ensemble; total amatuers compared to
the likes of Love, the Doors, U.S.A., Clear Light or the
Millennium.  Well, maybe they were a GREAT live band...
Anyway, just my 2 cents.


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Message: 12
   Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 14:18:14 EST
   From: James Botticelli 
Subject: Re:Map City Rekkids

In a message dated 3/13/02, Spectropop writes:

>Anders and Poncia's late sixties record label "Map City"
>only had a few releases. Does anybody know if there are
>any lost A&P gems on this label that I should keep my
>eyes and ears open for?

We The People's "If We Can Go To The Moon (ain't nothin'
we cain't do)"  May not be an A&P track however..JB

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Message: 13
   Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:10:09 -0000
   From: Guy Lawrence 
Subject: StarSpector

----- Original Message from Robert Conway

> The Spector-Starsailor connection was talked about here
> 2-3 months ago.  Based on that talk I bought the new
> Starsailor CD and was disappointed that there was no
> mention of Spector anywhere, and was wondering, after
> listening to the CD, why he would be interested in this
> particular group.  I wanted to like the group and CD so I
> gave it a few listens but alas, it just didn't click for
> me.

Surely, if Spector was going to produce any modern act
he'd be much better suited to, say, Britney Spears or
Destiny's Child rather than godawful sixth-form poetry
like Starsailor.

Where's Mick Patrick these days? Has all the talk of
sitars and Elton John frightened him off?


Phil Spector

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Message: 14
   Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 22:58:28 +0000
   From: Simon White 
Subject: Baby Jane Holzer / "You're Gonna Hurt Yourself"

Can someone please tell me that Baby Jane Holzer did
record and specifically that she recorded  "You're Gonna
Hurt Youself "? Please someone tell me it's true.

 I know she performed it on Hullaballoo [thanks Phil !]
but I really need to know whether it came out on vinyl.
It's not quite a matter of life and death to me but
actually I can't rest properly until I know the answer!

p.s. I've had very difficult day!

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Message: 15
   Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 23:15:55 EST
   From: Will George 
Subject: Poppy Family

Does anyone out there have a complete discography for the
Canadian duo The Poppy Family? I only have some singles
and a CD collection. I have no idea how many albums or
singles they released, or if they were even released in
the US. Thanks!


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Message: 16
   Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 05:24:54 -0000
   From: Billy G. Spradlin 
Subject: Re: Del Shannon

> I heard it was a bad reaction to Prozac or some other
> anti-depressant.

I remember seeing some tabloid TV show a few years ago
that had a story on people who became more depressed or
violent while taking Prozac. They had a very short
interview with his widow who said she thought the drug
was the cause of his sucide and was suing the company.
(dont know the outcome or if there was a settlement.)

Another story was he became very depressed because he
wasnt inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame - but
The 4 Seasons were that year.


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Message: 17
   Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 01:37:04 -0500
   From: "Paul Payton" 
Subject: Missing tracks, mumbled lyrics

Jack notes the sale at Collectibles:

Browsing through their site, it's amazing what they have
- and what they don't. This harkens back to the "missing
tracks" discussion we had recently. For example, in the
Chordettes reissues, the delicately exquisite "A Broken
Vow" (1961?) is nowhere to be found; I'm not even sure it
made it to LP, and yet it was a low-charting hit.
Similarly, Gene Vincent's beautiful "The Night Is So
Lonely"  doesn't show up on any CD's either; while Norton
issued a demo of the song on a 45rpm vinyl EP last year,
it pales in comparison to the original. Anyone know if 
either of these tracks are on non-bank-breaking CD's

Jeff: "Ski-Daddle (T. Romeo)/Everybody's Got A Home But
Me (T.Romeo) - 06 7/8, Dot 45-16877: 1966" is indeed a
fractured masterpiece. I thought I was the only one
unable to decipher more than two or three words, but the
sound carried it. Highly recommended for musical play!
Classify as a fractured success, similar to other
strangenesses like "Bila" by the Veratones, another
lyrical blur with a strange track that works because of
its weirdness, and the earlier-discussed "Shombalor,"
Sheriff & the Revels [Aki Aleong], topic also unknown.

Agree with Andrew Hickey: "See My Friends" by the Kinks
(aha, another hit overlooked in most best-of collections)
had the raga feel, but it was definitely all guitars. A
seriously under-rated track, IMO.

Country Paul

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Message: 18
   Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 07:04:03 -0000
   From: "Martin Roberts" 
Subject: Where Is He Now?

------ Original Message from Guy Lawrence

>Where's Mick Patrick these days? Has all the talk of
>sitars and Elton John frightened him off?

My guess would be some deserted South Island beach 
with no internet access.


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Message: 19
   Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 15:50:29 -0800
   From: Kim Cooper 
Subject: Bubblegum Ball venue change

Due to circumstances you wouldn't believe, the
Bubblegum Ball is moving from the roller rink
downstairs to the bowling alley upstairs, still at 4645
Venice Blvd. at San Vicente, Los Angeles, CA, still
Saturday 3/23 from 10pm-1:30am, still $10 (including 1
free game), still starring Ron Dante, sparkle*jets UK,
Marizane, Jim Freek & his Go Go Girlies, the fabulous
Bubblegum Queen, scads of great door prizes... and now
there's a bar!  More info at

Hope to see some of you there.

Scram PO Box 461626 Hollywood, CA 90046-1626
out now, Scram 15--unpublished Gary Usher interview,
Langley Schools Music Project, Brute Force, Daniel Clowes,
and more.

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Message: 20
   Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 11:13:24 EST
   From: Paul Richards 
Subject: Re: Rod McQueen / Peter Lee

I love that song 'Goodbye Thimblemill Lane', fantastic UK
popsike. Thanks for reminding me of it. Paul

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Message: 21
   Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 20:03:51 EST
   From: James Botticelli 
Subject: Rod McQueen?

In a message dated 3/12/02, Spectropop writes:

> Both Flash Cadillac and the Continental Kids and J.C.
> Livingstone had a hit with Did You Boogie With Your
> Baby.
> Who is Rod McQueen, and is J.C.Livingstone the same
> person? I know that Rod McQueen had some writing
> credits with Daniel Boone (aka Peter Lee
> Stirling/Peter Green) but I have never been able to
> access any info on him.

Could it possibly be Rod McKuen? The only evidence I have
to back it up is a mid 7T's LP cover shown to me by
Brother Cleve (keyboards of Combustible Edison, Esquivel
Scholar and DJ). It was by Rod McKuen and on it was a
male holding a can of Crisco against his six-pack
abdomined stomach with his hand dipped deeply into the
ooze. The can of Crisco had been altered to read "Disco"
and the artist was Rod McKuen...This may well be from left
field as it may or may not pertain to Rod McQueen, but can
a fella get a witness on this?...Botticelli

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Message: 22
   Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 07:26:25 EST
   From: Roger Hollier 
Subject: Ronnie Spector

Having just received the latest issue of the Jackie
DeShannon Appreciation Society mag., I notice that it
states in its back talk section "Ronnie Spector is
reportedly recording a new album featuring old friends,
including Keith Richards, Debbie Harry, Jackie DeShannon
and others".

Anyone out there know anymore about this project?

It's about time we had a new album from "the badgirl of
rock", and the voice that represents the girl group sound
at it's very best.


Roger Hollier

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Message: 23
   Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 06:13:19 -0800
   From: "Jeffrey Glenn" 
Subject: Re: Map City/Mark Wirtz

> Anders and Poncia's late sixties record label "Map City"
> only had a few releases. Does anybody know if there are
> any lost A&P gems on this label that I should keep my
> eyes and ears open for? Their Warner Brothers release The
> Anders & Poncia Album has I believe one of their best
> track they ever wrote "If She Don't Stay" as well as
> "Lucky". Does anybody have anymore information on the
> Anders and Poncia album that was to be released on Kama
> Sutra as it had a catalog number assigned to it? I just
> can't get enough of their song writing!!!
> Cheers!
> Leonardo

Leonardo, I've only got a couple of Map City 45's, and
neither appear to have direct Anders-Poncia involvement:

Girl I've Got News For You (Shapiro/Puccetti) - The Mardi
Gras, Map City MC 303: 1970, Produced by Loupop
Productions) - Don't know anything about this other than
it being written by Brad Shapiro and Robert Puccetti;
Puccetti also wrote the transcendent "Heard You Went Away"
by Proctor Amusement Co. on Scott 168 from June 1967 (and
picked up as Laurie 3346 two months later).  "Girl I've
Got News For You" is a great Four Tops cop.  The lead
doesn't quite have the hog-calling power of Levi Stubb's,
but then who does.  UK listers - is this a Northern Soul
favorite?  If not, it should be.

I Could Never Say No (Phil Feliciotto-Robert Morris) -
The PJ's, Map City MC 310: 1971, Produced by Ralph Murphy
& Jimmy Woods, Arranged and Conducted by Jack Perricone -
Very pretty early-70's orchestrated ballad with
male/female leads.  I'm guessing this is the same group
that went on to release a funky (think of the groove -
and electric piano - of Dusty's "Son Of A Preacher Man")
version of Tommy James & The Shondells "I Like The Way"
on Roulette R-7136 in 1972.

I can play any of these in musica if interested.

RE: Mark Wirtz I have a 45 that I have never seen
included on any Wirtz anthologies:

Come Down Little Bird (M.P. Wirtz/C. Mills)/Beachcomber
(N Dawson) - The Whales, UK CBS 3766: 1968, Produced by
Mark P. Wirtz and Chas Mills

Now, this is one great 45, and I don't believe this was
ever released in the U.S.  The A-side starts out with that
Spectorish echo, but the track turns into a great pop tune
with a very catchy chorus.  Now on musica.  The B-side is
also very good, but it's clearly the B-side.


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