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There are 15 messages in this issue of Spectropop.

Topics in this Digest Number 337:

      1. Re: Jane Canada - Two Degrees of Separation to Brian Wilson
           From: "Brad Elliott" 
      2. Fw: Magic Lamp
           From: "Peter Lerner" 
      3. re: Spector latest interview-?-
           From: Klaus Olsen 
      4. Re : Spector latest interview-?-
           From: "Frank" 
      5. Re: Spector latest interview-?-
           From: "Jean Emmanuel Dubois" 
      6. You're So Good To Me
           From: Doc Rock 
      7. Re: You're So Good To Me
           From: Andrew Hickey 
      8. YourRiff's So Good To Me
           From: James Botticelli 
      9. Re: You're So Good To Me
           From: LePageWeb 
     10. Re: Sandpipers/Lettermen pop gems
           From: "Mike Arcidiacono" 
     11. Re: Sandpipers/Lettermen pop gems
           From: Paul 
     12. Re: Connie Francis/Claus Ogerman
           From: "Don Charles" 
     13. Re: BIG TOWN BOY
           From: "Javed Jafri" 
     14. RE:George Harrison Boots
           From: tymespan 
     15. Good Vibrations recorded at Western
           From: Carol Kaye 


Message: 1
   Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 14:28:33 -0600
   From: "Brad Elliott" 
Subject: Re: Jane Canada - Two Degrees of Separation to Brian Wilson

Lee Dempsey wrote:

> > Now can anyone tell me anything about Jane Canada,
> > who did the excellent original of Jackie
> > DeShannon's Am I Dreaming on Magic Lamp records?
> Now we're getting into my territory...  Brad Elliott,
> are you out there?

Yep, right here, Lee.

> Didn't you determine in your
> research for SURF'S UP -- THE BEACH BOYS ON RECORD that
> "Bobby" in "Bob and Bobby" (Tower 154; "Twelve-O-Four"
> b/w "Baby What You Want Me To Do"; co-produced,
> uncredited, by Brian Wilson with his friend Bob Norberg)
> was an alias for one "Jane Canada?"

That is indeed what Bob told me some years ago.  When I
saw the question about the single on Magic Lamp, I was
hoping somebody would provide some more information on
her, because (unfortunately) I can't.  Bob told me that
Bobby's real name was Jane Canada, but he didn't recall a
lot about her. She was a local L.A. singer he hooked up
with for that one single, then they went their separate
ways.  He never indicated she'd done any other recording;
I suspect he probably didn't know.  Whether the Jane
Canada of Bob & Bobby is the same singer as on the Magic
Lamp single, I honestly can't say.  I suspect it's likely,
though, as the Magic Lamp label seems to have been tied
into that mid-Sixties L.A. harmony pop scene which people
like Brian Wilson floated on the fringes of.  (There's a
Jan & Dean single on the label!)

Does anybody on this list have both the Magic Lamp single
and the Bob & Bobby single?  It'd be great if somebody
could do a comparison and determine whether it's the same
girl.  I can't, as I only have the Bob & Bobby 45.

Finally, does anybody know whether there are any more
Jane Canada records out there?  She may not be as much of
an unknown as I've thought she was for the past 18 years!

Surf's up!

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Message: 2
   Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 21:03:03 -0000
   From: "Peter Lerner" 
Subject: Fw: Magic Lamp

"Paul Payton" wrote:

Peter wrote:

> > ...can anyone tell me more about Magic Lamp - the only
> > other 45 I have on this label is a Johnny Burnette
> > production"
> ML-705 Mickey Jones & The Triumphs: "I Can Live Without
> You"/"I Thought I Could" Prod. Joe Osborn; Arr. Larry
> Knechtel (!)
> It has a Beach Boys-ish feeling, sounds like c. 1964 or
> so. "A" side is very good, lots of creative transitions;
> partial falsetto lead vocal. I remember nothing about
> the "B" side. Label address is PO Box 3244, N. Hollywood,
> CA (no zipcode listed). Does anyone know anything about
> this artist? And what was the Johnny Burnette production
> on Magic Lamp?

Paul asks which is the Johnny Burnette production on Magic
Lamp. It's ML 514, Heart don't hurt me again / Tell Jim I
love him only, by Linda Hughes.


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Message: 3
   Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 21:21:08 +0100
   From: Klaus Olsen 
Subject: re: Spector latest interview-?-

Could it be the questionnaire in Vanity Fair november 2000 
"the music issue" - photograph by Nicole Spector?


>Dear Spector fans-
>I was wondering when the latest Phil Spector interview
>was made. Being a ultra-reclusive man, Mr Spector
>interviews are a rare thing- Of, course if somebody know
>I would like to read it!

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Message: 4
   Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 17:44:54 +0100
   From: "Frank" 
Subject: Re : Spector latest interview-?-

Jean-Emmanuel Dubois wrote:
> I was wondering when the latest Phil Spector interview
> was made. Being a ultra-reclusive man, Mr Spector
> interviews are a rare thing- Of, course if somebody know
> I would like to read it!

Unless I'm mistaken, the last interview was for the
special issue of Vanity Fair devoted exclusively to music.

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Message: 5
   Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 19:18:30 +0200 (MET)
   From: "Jean Emmanuel Dubois" 
Subject: Re: Spector latest interview-?-

Mr Keith Beach,

Many thanx for the infos

Features aside, I would be thrilled to know when & to
which media Mr Spector did answer some journalists
questions. Thanx in advance.


Jean-Emmanuel (i'm just curious).

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Message: 6
   Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 11:19:28 -0500
   From: Doc Rock 
Subject: You're So Good To Me

A great version came out in the late '60s by Debra
Swisher (former lead of the Pixies Three and the Angels)
on Boom 45 H 60,001, produced by

The flip was a solo remake of the Angels' "Thank You and


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Message: 7
   Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 11:34:34 -0800 (PST)
   From: Andrew Hickey 
Subject: Re: You're So Good To Me

> Not much mention seems to go to the Andrew Oldham
> produced version by The Factotums, which I think is 
> one of the better Brit covers. I'm sure it's on an 
> Immediate comp somewhere, but, as I know at least 
> two Immediate artists that have never received a 
> penny, I feel relatively guilt-free to...

Thanks for that. If it was a 45 then at the very least
it'll be available on the Immediate Singles box, but
you're right - when Immediate went out of business its
catalogue got passed on to other companies that didn't
have to pay a penny in royalties, so none of the
artists on the label received a penny from about 68
on. The Small Faces have, I think, recently come to
some sort of deal with the current licensors (at least
the comp 'The Darlings Of Whapping Wharf Laundrette'
has various stickers about how it's put together by
the surviving band members) but to my mind anyone else
on Immediate is fair game, as the artist isn't getting
paid anyway...

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Message: 8
   Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 17:38:01 EST
   From: James Botticelli 
Subject: YourRiff's So Good To Me

In a message dated 1/3/02, phil c writes:

> the riff on "You're So Good To Me" is that it runs
> throughout the entire record, rather like "Stand By Me",
> "I Can't Help Myself" and "Then He Kissed Me"

Submitted for your approval....nearly 50% if not MORE of
all the cool riffs in the world of pop, funk, disco, house.,
garage rock, etc have that little "you're so good to
me"-type four or five note segment that seems to be the
essence of the groove of the song....Its not the notes,
its just the way its arranged and played IMHO that makes
it all good. Sometimes these days its electronic but the
song remains the same. Anyone familiar with Joey Negro's
Electronica Disco-House megamix will note that its
literally filled with four or five note riffs that keep
your neck-a-snappin' to the groove...

My .02...JB

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Message: 9
   Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 11:46:38 +0900
   From: LePageWeb 
Subject: Re: You're So Good To Me

Sure is nice to see Brian Wilson topics pop up here

Phil wrote:

> The neat thing about the riff on "You're So Good To Me"
> is that it runs throughout the entire record, rather
> like "Stand By Me", "I Can't Help Myself" and "Then He
> Kissed Me" (well, almost). 

This is a very neat device indeed. When used properly,
it often makes a record for me. Here are few

Motorin' - Martha and the Vandellas - What a bassline!
Giorgio Moroder eat your heart out!

Rescue Me - Fontella Bass - one of the coolest bass
riffs ever.

Black is Black - Los Bravos - I Can't Help Myself,

One of the coolest ever is Someday We'll Be Together
by the Supremes. This one features an incessant 1/8
note guitar riff that plays on the "and-3-and-4-and"
of every single measure. Unlike the other examples,
the notes change ever so slightly to match the chord
sequence, which makes it even more appealing. Once you
start listening to this riff, it's hard to pay
attention to anything else!

n.p. My Girl - Temptations

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Message: 10
   Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 11:13:22 -0500
   From: "Mike Arcidiacono" 
Subject: Re: Sandpipers/Lettermen pop gems

> Sandpipers - "Let Go!" (A&M 997 - 1968)
> Lettermen - "Mr Sun" (Capitol 5913 - 1967) - My favorite
> Lettermen song, by far -  so unlike the formularic
> Letterman sound. As far as I know, only released as a
> single. I can [play] these, if anyone's interested.

Jeff.... Mikey here.  I'm a Huge Lettermen fan. I'm at
work, but off the top of my head, I believe that "Mr Sun"
apears in stereo on the "Spring" LP, which is a great LP.
It was also the first Lettermen LP I ever owned, and it
got me hooked.

You are right about the Lettermen having tons of great,
unknown pop gems. Try "You'll Be Needing Me" for one!! Or,
"The Shelter of Your Arms". Both were hits for other
artists (Nino Temo & April Stevens, and Sammy Davis jr)
but the Lettermen make these songs their own, and I FAR
prefer their versions to the originals.



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Message: 11
   Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 21:10:54 -0000
   From: Paul 
Subject: Re: Sandpipers/Lettermen pop gems

Me too, I love these two groups, my favourite Lettermen
tracks-also Mr Sun,Memories/Traces is also
fantastic,Mary's Rainbow,Love is blue/Greensleeves,Sherry
dont go.My fave Sandpipers tracks are 'Glass',Beyond the
valley of the dolls,Come Saturday Morning,Softly & [of
course] Let Go! I'm also a big fan of The Arbors,Free
Design,Hugo Montenegro,Collage,Roger Nichols,The Match
[anybody heard their 69RCA LP-they do a version of 'Thru
Spray Colored Glasses' by Dino,Desi & Billy which is very
dreamy]I'm looking for info on a group called The Pretty
People who 'Fuzz,Acid &Flowers' say sound like Free
Design.Any other rare soft pop that you could tell me



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Message: 12
   Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 16:57:34 +0000
   From: "Don Charles" 
Subject: Re: Connie Francis/Claus Ogerman

Phil Chapman wrote:
>  However, the next entry, from 1964, caught my
> attention: Connie Francis with Claus Ogerman - Lady
> Valet Theme/Rock Dem Bells (MGM13260). The A side
> crops up in a current Hungarian dance club Chillout
> playlist. Does this ring a bell with anyone?  Phil

I never knew about this release.  If my memory serves me
right, both tunes are instrumentals taken from the
soundtrack of Connie's 1964 film LOOKING FOR LOVE. 
Connie and Claus also collaborated on other singles
("Your Other Love" comes to mind) and an album of
Bacharach-David covers in 1968.

Don Charles

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Message: 13
   Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 19:35:03 -0500
   From: "Javed Jafri" 
Subject: Re: BIG TOWN BOY

"Vlaovic B" wrote:

> Just a note...Shirley Matthews 'Big Town Boy' was
> recorded in the States (NYC I assume), but Shirley was
> Canadian.  Track went top 10 in Canada in 1964, it's
> follow-up also went top 30.  It was also available on a
> Canadian historical music compilation about 10 years ago;
> 'What A Feeling'

Not sure if you are talking about the "Oh What a Feeling"
4 CD box set that came out in 1996 to commemorate the
25th anniversary of the Juno Awards. Unfortunately BTB
is nowhere to be found on that set. The collection is a
rather pedestrian affair that concentrates on post 1968
material . It does include some of the biggest Canadian
hits but a lot of essential music is missing. No Ugly
Ducklings, Staccatos, Teenage Head or Pagliaro but at
least Martha and the Muffins made the set.


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Message: 14
   Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 14:59:50 EST
   From: tymespan 
Subject: RE:George Harrison Boots

I have the Beware of Abkco boot. It  has 15 tracks of
acoustic versions of songs from All Things Must Pass
(including two Dylan songs.) Nothing elaborate just
George & his guitar running through his selections but
excellent sound quality.I don't have the CD in front of
me but I believe about half of the songs were never

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Message: 15
   Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 22:27:10 -0800
   From: Carol Kaye 
Subject: Good Vibrations recorded at Western

There is a book in the UK that wrongly claims "Good
Vibrations" hit was recorded at Gold Star. The truth is
important. That UK book is entirely wrong, and I think
it's terrible that Gold Star tries to claim that. I get
the re-use and credit for it on Elec. Bass and I never did
Good Vibrations at Gold Star at all, but at Western.

All 12 record dates in my log for "Good Vibrations" list
Western as the studio with Brian Wilson. The very first
record date for "Good Vibrations" is listed as being at
Gold Star...that track was never used as the bootlegs
belie. I'm on the official hit recording contract and I
get the re-use checks for Good Vibrations just for your
information. One UK book out totally got that wrong....but
the history is correct with it in the boxed sets and the
re-use checks I get for it from the Musicians'
Union/Federation and their official contract on the
correct master.

Carol Kaye

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