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  • Date: 1/5/98
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             Volume #0077                         05/01/98
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    Subject:     odd coincidence
    Sent:        30/4/98 12:42 pm
    Received:    1/5/98 1:52 am
    From:        FMYou, FMXXX@XXXXXXm
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
    
    <>
    
    I bought my first Pebbles (V.2) 20 years ago, after having read
    about it in Creem. Only today, somebody told me for the first 
    time that G.S. was the guy behind that series (guess I 
    should've guessed it, but I never did). And then I read it the 
    same day on Spectropop!
    
    Frank
    
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    Subject:     the last straw
    Sent:        30/4/98 6:18 am
    Received:    1/5/98 1:52 am
    From:        Jack Madani, Jack_MadXXX@XXXXXX2.nj.us
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
    
    >Well, that was the last straw. I was tired of revisionist rock 
    >writers claiming that everything from Girl Groups to Surf to 
    >the Everly Brothers to Doo Wop was killed off by the British 
    >Invasion!
    
    It's one very important reason that I adore this list. It gives
    me a chance to hang with guys and gals who love that period that
    most rock histories refer to as the crummy, no-good years 
    between Elvis going into the army and the Beatles landing in 
    America. I appreciate the Beatles too. I bow down to them. They
    are the greatest group of all time. But frankly, I've had it up 
    to hear with all the adoration. Yeah, pally, I gotcher Beatles 
    right here.
    
    This attitude must stem from my life-long curse of having to 
    root for Philadelphia pro sports teams. Sure, the Cowboys are 
    great. And by the way, bite me.
    
    I can take discussing any other first-invasion British group. 
    But I swear, if we're gonna start talking Beatles, I'm gonna 
    puke.
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    Jack Madani - Princeton Day School, The Great Road,
       Princeton, NJ  08540   Jack_MadXXX@XXXXXX2.nj.us
    "It is when the gods hate a man with uncommon abhorrence that they
     drive him into the profession of a schoolmaster." --Seneca, 64 A.D.
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    Subject:     beatles Mix
    Sent:        30/4/98 1:34 pm
    Received:    1/5/98 1:52 am
    From:        Paulurbahn, PaulurbXXX@XXXXXXm
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
    
    In a message dated 98-04-29 20:12:40 EDT, you write:
    
    << are there any perceivable differences in the mono US
      and UK pressings worth mentioning?  >> >>
    
    Most of the American beatles records sound distorted compared 
    to the clean English mix, matter fact John Lennon criticized 
    Capitol for their tampering with the mix.
    
    Paul Urbahns
    PaulurbXXX@XXXXXXm
    
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    Subject:     Paul
    Sent:        1/5/98 1:37 am
    Received:    1/5/98 1:52 am
    From:        Doc Rock, docroXXX@XXXXXXom
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
    
    My brother is a Beatles freak. He tells me that, "In terms of 
    Let It Be, Paul did not know that Spector was adding female 
    vocals and strings to his songs, and to top it off, John added 
    insults before Paul's songs on the album. So, the Let It Be, 
    Paul's version of the album, is supposed to be released this 
    Christmas."
    
    My brother says he just read Paul's bio. I have no idea if this
    stuff is true, myself. Anyone else?
    
    Doc
    
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    Subject:     Re: Lou Christie
    Sent:        30/4/98 10:41 am
    Received:    1/5/98 1:52 am
    From:        David Feldman, feldXXX@XXXXXXerables.com
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
    
    > At a Buena Park Record meet appearance a couple months 
    > back I asked Lou to actually write down what the background 
    > vocals are singing. He wrote: "Shimmy-shimmy-shimmy Shy-iy 
    > Mis-i-dis". And so was Misidis the name of a 12th Dynasty 
    > pharaoh? No, he said it was just cool and exotic sounding. Now 
    > that's art! He just kept referring to the Tammys as "my girls".
    
    I've always been fascinated by Lou Christie and particularly 
    his songwriting. I don't know how long of a talk you had with 
    L.C., but I was always curious about to what extent he saw his 
    paranoid songs (e.g., "If Only My Car Could Talk," "Rhapsody in
    the Rain") as personal, deeply felt songs, and to what extent 
    they he was just having fun with lyrics that seemed to work 
    commercially. Surely, he often came close to going over the 
    edge -- more so, than say, Del Shannon, who also brushed w/
    paranoia.
    
    What's he up to now? I had hopes that he'd have a real revival 
    during the "Beyond the Blue Horizon" period (what a wonderful 
    version).
    
    And speaking of Del Shannon (not my smoothest transition ever),
    have you all heard his ethereal version of "Tell Her No." This 
    is the rare example, like the two versions of Grapevine and the
    two of You Send Me (thinking of Sam Cooke & Aretha Franklin) 
    where both are masterpieces.
    
    Dave Feldman
    
    RIP: Carl Wilson
    Song of the Week:  "Landslide" (Fleetwood Mac) from "The Dance"
    Movie of the Month:  Love & Death on Long Island
    Best Time Killer of the 90's:  Filling out the gender survey at
      "http://www.imponderables.com"
    
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    Subject:     Lou Christie
    Sent:        30/4/98 10:46 am
    Received:    1/5/98 1:52 am
    From:        David Marsteller, davebXXX@XXXXXXlin.org
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
    
    Since Lou Christie's name has come up, I thought I'd bring up a
    single of his that I'd found recently. It was from 1977 on the 
    Midsong International label, so I didn't have much hope of it 
    being good. I expected disco, but one side of the single, "
    Spanish Wine", is a great Brian Wilson-ish production. (The 
    flip side *was* disco, alas.) The writing credit is to C. White
    . I haven't found any more evidence of Lou Christie recording 
    for Midsong, perhaps this was a one-off deal?
    Dave
    
    /************************************************************************/
    /**   "Reach out and grab a fistful of now"                            **/
    /**                                             Thornetta Davis        **/
    /**      David Marsteller davebXXX@XXXXXXlin.org                       **/
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    ---[ archived by Spectropop - 01 /5/98 - 02 :00:53 am ]---
    Subject:     
    Sent:        1/5/98 4:10 am
    To:          
    
    On 4/14/98 RGSauer, RGSaXXX@XXXXXXm wrote to Spectropop List:
    
    I have a 45 I won at a hamburger joint in the 60's called "I 
    Still Love Him" by The Joys.  This was a very melancholy, 
    Spectorish sound. (I haven't listened to it in years).  
    
    Yes, this is a great single and I love the guitar sound.
    
    This side was arranged by Perry Botkin Jr. Garfield/Botkin 
    production. This is an LA recording all the way, but I don't 
    hear Gold Star on this. Anyone have tracking date info?
    
    The Garfield/Botkin did some stuff for Spector, and I suppose 
    that's why "I Still Love Him" is included on Touch the Wall of 
    Sound series, specifically Vol. 2. What's the B-side sound 
    like, RG?
    --
    le_page_XXX@XXXXXXies.com
    RodeoDrive/5030
    
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    Subject:     Re: The Fun And Games
    Sent:        30/4/98 10:29 am
    Received:    1/5/98 1:52 am
    From:        BashPop, BashXXX@XXXXXXm
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
    
    
     **** the album Elephant Candy by The Fun & 
      Games was produced by Zekley with many of the songs co-written 
      by him. Some may find this record a little too saccharine but 
      it does have it's moments. The song "The Grooviest Girl In The 
      World" actually reached # 78 in 1968.****
     
     <>
    
    Hi Jeff,
    
    I agree with Javed that "Elephant Candy" by The Fun And Games 
    is a wonderful album. Although some songs are bubblegummy, none
    of it is lightweight when compared to some of the *really* 
    lightweight groups of that period like The Free Design, The 
    Sugar Shoppe, and The Love Generation (I like all these groups,
    so I'm not using "lightweight" as a pejorative term).
    
    As far as The Fun And Games being on CD, they actually do 
    appear on a few compilations:
    
    1. "Close To Carmel" (one of my 20 favorite songs of all time, 
    by the way) appears on the Japanese compilation "The Melody 
    Goes On, Volume 3", on M&M Records. Like everything else on 
    that series, it's mastered from vinyl but sounds OK.
    
    2. The aforementioned "Grooviest Girl In The World" appears on 
    "Bubblegum Classics "Volume 2", on Varese Sarabande Records.
    
    3. "Elephant Candy" appears on Volume 3 of "Bubblegum Classics".
    
    Although there are stereo versions of these songs on the Fun 
    and Games album, they appear in mono on the "Bubblegum Classics
    "collections. I asked Cary Mansfield of Varese why that was, 
    and he said it was because the stereo masters had been lost. 
    But...
    
    4. The Fun and Games cover of "Don't Worry Baby" appears on 
    "Morning Glory Days", a collection recently released by MCA 
    Japan, and the song is in true stereo! MCA undoubtedly owns the
    rights to The Fun and Games, since they were originally on UNI, 
    so one would suspect that they got this recording straight from
    the master tape.
    
    Wow, if that's true then we might see a legitimate reissue of 
    the "Elephant Candy" album, in true stereo!!!!
    
    I want (Elephant) Candy!!!!
    
    --
    Spectropop Rules!!!!!
    Take Care,
    David
    
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    Subject:     The Grooviest Girl In The World
    Sent:        30/4/98 10:41 am
    Received:    1/5/98 1:52 am
    From:        David Feldman, feldXXX@XXXXXXerables.com
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
    
    > In a message dated 98-04-28 14:22:23 EDT, javed writes:
    > 
    > << the album Elephant Candy by The Fun & 
    >  Games was produced by Zekley with many of the songs co-written 
    >  by him. Some may find this record a little too saccharine but 
    >  it does have it's moments. The song "The Grooviest Girl In The 
    >  World" actually reached # 78 in 1968. >>
    > 
    > wow...there's a song i haven't thought about in forever!! i had
    > that 45 as a kid...it was in a stack of "cutout" singles my 
    > mother found at sears for me one christmas...it was on the uni 
    > label and the flip, if i recall, was "it must have been the 
    > wind"...i'm sure the cd availability on any f&g material is 
    > next to nil, right??
    > 
      Javed,
    
    Don't apologize for "The Grooviest Girl in the World." I think 
    it's a terrific pop single.
    
    And Jeff, who could forget that Uni label. You could get 
    nauseous watching, not listening, to this song or "Incense and 
    Peppermint" or early Neil Diamond.
    > 
    Dave Feldman
    
    RIP: Carl Wilson
    Song of the Week:  "Landslide" (Fleetwood Mac) from "The Dance"
    Movie of the Month:  Love & Death on Long Island
    Best Time Killer of the 90's:  Filling out the gender survey at
      "http://www.imponderables.com"
    
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    Subject:     Jelly Beans
    Sent:        30/4/98 10:56 pm
    Received:    1/5/98 1:52 am
    From:        Doc Rock, docroXXX@XXXXXXom
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
    
    Let me recommend a CD I just got. It is on Collectibles, and is
    called The Jellybeans and Friends. What a slice of Brill 
    Building!
    
    The Beans never had an LP. But they did work on one, as 
    witnessed by this CD. Besides "I Wanna Love Him So Bad," and 
    one of Ellie's greatest accomplishments, "Baby Be Mine," there 
    are 8 other cuts (plus 8 cuts by the "Friends).
    
    The Beans other cuts are, surprisingly, fast becoming some of 
    my favorites of all times. For example, I've always liked "The 
    Kind of Boy You Can't Forget," but their version is actually 
    steamy! On the other hand, I've never particularly liked 
    "Chapel of Love," but the Beans' version is tops!
    
    Much of this CD verges on street-corner doo wop. They cuts seem
    to be half-complete demos or rehearsals. "Do Wah Diddy" never 
    sounded better, and "Here She Comes" is great even though it 
    clearly was not completed.
    
    I love the Wall of Sound. But this underproduced Curtain of 
    Sound works for me just as well! I can't stop playing it!
    
    Look for it!
    
    Doc
    
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