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  • Date: 30/4/98
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           Volume #0076         04/30/98
             Entertainment for Everyone
    Subject:     Re: gary zekley/the fun & games
    Sent:        30/4/98 7:44 am
    Received:    30/4/98 7:47 am
    From:        KingoGrief, KingoGrXXX@XXXXXXm
    In a message dated 98-04-28 14:22:23 EDT, javed writes:
    << the album Elephant Candy by The Fun & 
     Games was produced by Zekley with many of the songs co-written 
     by him. Some may find this record a little too saccharine but 
     it does have it's moments. The song "The Grooviest Girl In The 
     World" actually reached # 78 in 1968. >>
    wow...there's a song i haven't thought about in forever!! i had
    that 45 as a was in a stack of "cutout" singles my 
    mother found at sears for me one was on the uni 
    label and the flip, if i recall, was "it must have been the 
    wind"...i'm sure the cd availability on any f&g material is 
    next to nil, right??
    i must say, what a great list this is!!
    ---[ archived by Spectropop - 30/4/98 - 08 :55:56 am ]---
    Subject:     Re: It's the Beatles
    Sent:        29/4/98 3:38 am
    Received:    29/4/98 10:04 am
    From:        MCE1965, MCE1XXX@XXXXXXm
    << From:        Jamie LePage,
     I was reminded of and so listened to the British version of the
     mono Revolver today, and I tried to take note of a few 
     differences between the mono and stereo. The cowbell in Taxman 
     enters earlier on the mono. I'm Only Sleeping has an extra 
     backward guitar riff during the "Taking my time lying..." 
     section. The ending to Love You To is a tad longer. Yellow 
     Submarine has John's long lost "a life of ease." She Said She 
     Said sounds a bit sped up. Most radical is Tomorrow Never Knows 
     with a longer intro, plus louder (and differently placed) tape 
     loop effects throughout. What a pleasure to relisten to this 
     album! Can anyone cite any other differences? Besides song 
     selection, are there any perceivable differences in the mono US
     and UK pressings worth mentioning?  >>
    Page (and others who might be interested),
    The best source for info of this nature is available from Joe
    Brennan's Beatles page, which can be found at:
    It's as good a list of Beatles recording variations as any 
    out there (and there aren't many good ones!).
    ---[ archived by Spectropop - 30/4/98 - 08 :55:56 am ]---
    Subject:     Re: Lou Christie and Cynthia Weil
    Sent:        30/4/98 6:04 am
    Received:    30/4/98 7:47 am
    From:        Wondermints,
    DockRock wrote:
    >Christie's background singers, the Tammys, recorded his
    >compositions, including "Egyptian Shumba" on UA, the ULTIMATE
    >GG record!
    Here, here ! I can't agree more. . .one of the most fun 'n' 
    freaky recordings ever made, along with being just a great GG 
    record. At a Buena Park Record meet appearance a couple months 
    back I asked Lou to actually write down what the background 
    vocals are singing. He wrote: "Shimmy-shimmy-shimmy Shy-iy 
    Mis-i-dis". And so was Misidis the name of a 12th Dynasty 
    pharaoh? No, he said it was just cool and exotic sounding. Now 
    that's art! He just kept referring to the Tammys as "my girls".
    Great to chat with. . . asked him about working with Jack 
    Nitzche and words like "strange" and "genius" came up. That's 
    funny, those are words that come to mind whenever I think of 
    Lou (and Twyla to be fair).
    ---[ archived by Spectropop - 30/4/98 - 08 :55:56 am ]---
    Subject:     Re: kudos and a tip o'the hat to Doc
    Sent:        29/4/98 4:35 am
    Received:    29/4/98 10:04 am
    From:        Doc Rock, docroXXX@XXXXXXom
    >I'm about 2/3 of the way through Doc's Liberty records book and
    >I must say- Man, what an incredible read!! Absolutely invaluable
    >to any fan of 60s pop music. doc, you have done us all a great 
    >service with this obvious labor of love.
    >Thank you So much.         Ron
    I was told that EMI bought copies for all their execs, as it 
    was a must-read for everyone in the record biz. Don't kow if it
    is true, but it is true that it was a labor of love! Thanks, Ron
    , for your feedback! Had I known how big a labor, I never would
    have started it! I doubt people know how much info is in there 
    until they read it! Glad you know!
    ---[ archived by Spectropop - 30/4/98 - 08 :55:56 am ]---
    Subject:     Re: Spectropop V#0075
    Sent:        29/4/98 6:28 am
    Received:    29/4/98 10:04 am
    From:        Billy G. Spradlin,
    >Also, I saw mentioned elsewhere that the original US Sgt. 
    >Pepper didn't have the 15K tone or the concentric groove 
    >chatter. I could have sworn both UK and US versions had it. I 
    >know these were subsequently lost but reinstated in the '80's. 
    >Can anyone verify? I'm almost to the point of digging out the 
    >old Capitol LPs from storage.
    I have both a 60's Capitol pressing and a 70's Apple pressing 
    and the 15K "dog hearing" tone and chatter doesn't appear on it
    . I do know that the Capitol "Rarities" LP that came out in the
    early 80's (and really a waste of vinyl) had the chatter tacked 
    on at the end of side 2.
    One thing I have always noticed about my 1970's-era Stereo 
    Capitol and Apple albums is that they were mastered with much 
    more compression and reverb (especally on "Second Album") than 
    the mono British CD's. Did the Stereo EMI British albums have 
    this much compression on them too? Also Capitol really trashed 
    some great mono mixes by using the "Duophonic" process on them,
    especally "She Loves You" and "I Feel Fine". I was very happy 
    when I bought "Past Masters Vol 1" and Finally heard the stereo
    mix for the first time!
    Billy G.
    ---[ archived by Spectropop - 30/4/98 - 08 :55:56 am ]---
    Subject:     Beatle Myth
    Sent:        29/4/98 10:34 pm
    Received:    30/4/98 7:47 am
    From:        Doc Rock, docroXXX@XXXXXXom
    >Doc, you have a book published called the _Beatle Myth_. Is 
    >that a song-by-song analysis? Do tell a bit about it. Is it 
    First off, let me say that I love the Beatles, I have a huge 
    collection of British 45s from the mid-sixties, and the Beatles
    were the quintessential artist of the '60s.
    What is the Beatle Myth about? It is about Gilding the Lily. 
    Exaggerating the legend of the Beatles, a legend which needs no
    exaggeration at all!
    Case in point:
    There was once a compilation LP by Rhino called "Frat Rock Vol.
    4," which featured "Chug-a-Lug." The liners claimed that this 
    Roger Miller tune was "One of the few non-Brit hits to chart in
    America in late '64."
    Well, that was the last straw. I was tired of revisionist rock 
    writers claiming that everything from Girl Groups to Surf to 
    the Everly Brothers to Doo Wop was killed off by the British 
    THE BEATLE MYTH looks at the facts (such as the charts), and 
    examines all the Beatle Myths in that contest.
    Some of the facts I uncovered:
    *The Orlons and Jan & Dean wore Beatle Boots and Beatle Jackets
    before the British invaded in 1964.
    *The most that the British Invasion artists ever "dominated" 
    the charts (on a yearly basis) was in 1965, when they had 10% 
    of Billboard for the year.
    *More American Teen Idols wrote their own hits than did BI 
    artists. *Virtually every artist or type of music that 
    revisionist writers claim the BI killed off actually either 
    died off prior to the Invasion, or lasted out the Invasion.
    I compiled a list of major US artists who had charted at least 
    5 times over three or more years. Then I made a list of the 
    artists whose career ended (last national chart hit) in 1964: 
    Anita Bryant, Ace Cannon, Coasters, Johnny Crawford, Crystals, 
    Duane Eddy, Four Preps, Bobby Freeman, Burl Ives, Sandy Nelson,
    Orlons, Little Junior Parker, Lloyd Price, Santo and Johnny, 
    Linda Scott, Junior Walker. These are not the ones cited by 
    writers as being quashed by the BI.
    I asked Dean Torrence in 1988 if the Invasion hurt Jan & Dean. 
    He said that it helped them, as the suits at the record 
    companies and TV networks finally started taking rock (
    including J&D music) seriously.
    Anyway, that is the Myth. The book also gives a complete 
    chronology of the Invasion, the artists, and Brit hits in the 
    US prior to the Invasion. Bobby Vee wrote the afterword.
    Oh yes. I checked the Billboard Hot 100 when "Chug-a-Lug" was 
    poplar, late '64, when British Rock "dominated" the American 
    charts and had killed off American music. Know how many British
    singles were on the Hot 100 when "Chug-a-Lug was at its peak? 
    Fourteen. Exactly 14! The Beatle Myth is available from the 
    publisher, or from me for 1/3 off.
    Remember, I love the Beatles and the British. I am not 
    anti-Beatles. I just defend American music against the Beatle 
    ---[ archived by Spectropop - 30/4/98 - 08 :55:56 am ]---

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