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  • From: The Spectropop Group
  • Date: 28/4/98
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         Volume #0074                                       04/28/98
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       This vintage recording may be played on Mono or Stereo equipment
    
    
    
    
    Subject:     Critters/Lou Christie
    Sent:        27/4/98 10:58 pm
    Received:    28/4/98 12:19 am
    From:        Kieron Tyler, kierXXX@XXXXXXorg.uk
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
    
    The Kapp period stuff is more Lovin Spoonful-ish, although 
    thats probably a little bit too sweeping. The Project 3 stuff 
    as far as I know hasn't been reissued (although theres probably
    the usual obscure Japanese CD out there).
    
    I'm a big fan of Lou Christie and was wondering if anyone had 
    heard any of the songs he wrote for other people in the 60s. I 
    think there are at least a couple of Girl Group 45s. And does 
    anyone know the story on 'Canterbury Road' which appears to be 
    recorded with The Millenium?
    
    Bit unfair on All Saints there, although I'm not too bothered 
    about their watered down swingbeat, they're meant to slouch, 
    how could they do otherwise....
    
    All the best, Kieron Tyler.
    
    ---[ archived by Spectropop - 28/4/98 - 06 :52:42 am ]---
    
    Subject:     cynthia w...w...w...
    Sent:        27/4/98 1:56 am
    Received:    27/4/98 6:55 am
    From:        KingoGrief, KingoGrXXX@XXXXXXm
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
    
    In a message dated 98-04-26 12:20:07 EDT, le_page_web writes:
    
    << when I told [Mike Stoller] I 
     adored "Only In America" he casually tossed off a comment like 
     "Oh yeah, we wrote that with Barry and Cynthia..." BARRY and 
     CYNTHIA??? As if it goes without saying that I am supposed to 
     know who Barry and Cynthia are!!! Of course I do, but I found 
     that extraordinary! >>
    
    while it's fresh on my mind, does anyone know the correct 
    pronunciation for "weil"? it's been a headscratcher for me for 
    many years...
    thanx,
    
    jeff
    
    ---[ archived by Spectropop - 28/4/98 - 06 :52:43 am ]---
    
    Subject:     Gary Zekley questions
    Sent:        27/4/98 4:09 am
    Received:    27/4/98 6:55 am
    From:        Scott Bauman, scottbauXXX@XXXXXXmsn.com
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
    
    I know that Gary Zekley is supposed to be one of those "behind 
    the scenes" sixties popmeisters, like Gary Usher and Curt 
    Becher. But, can anyone tell me what he's done besides produce 
    the Yellow Balloon and The Clique. Also, what CDs best showcase
    his talents? Finally, does anyone know when and how he died?
    
    Thanks.
    
    -- Scott
    
    ---[ archived by Spectropop - 28/4/98 - 06 :52:43 am ]---
    
    Subject:     Graham Gouldman
    Sent:        27/4/98 1:38 pm
    Received:    28/4/98 12:19 am
    From:        Javed Jafri, javedjaXXX@XXXXXX.ca
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
    
     
    > Subject:     More on Graham Gouldman
    >              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    > I have always wondered how Gouldman got so many covers. I can't
    > think of another UK writer with similar success. Ron Richards, 
    > Giorgio Gomelski and Mickie Most all used Gouldman material, 
    > and as far as I know, there is no common bond among them which 
    > would lead to Gouldman. Maybe Gouldman had a good music publisher 
    > plugging his tunes? Any idea? 
    > btw, his _thing_ LP with John Paul Jones is a treat, isn't it?
    > I understand his first group the Whirlwinds have a track on Beat 
    > at Abbey Road. Was Gouldman ever in a band called Mockingbirds? 
    > What are there records like? Anyone know?
    > le_page_XXX@XXXXXXies.com
    
    
    Page,
    
    Yes Graham Gouldman was in a band called the Mockingbirds. This
    group also included future 10cc member Kevin Godley. They 
    released singles on the Immediate, Decca and Columbia labels 
    between 1965-66. Their sound can be described as R & B 
    influenced 'beat" music.
    
    Before the formation of 10cc, Graham also somehow ended up as a
    staff writer for the Kasenatz-Katz bubblegum team in New York. 
    In fact, he was the lead singer on the very last chart record 
    released under the Ohio Express name.
    
    After the breakup of 10cc Graham, of course, teamed up with 
    Andrew Gold in the duo called Wax.
    
    Javed
    
    ---[ archived by Spectropop - 28/4/98 - 06 :52:43 am ]---
    
    Subject:     The Hollies
    Sent:        27/4/98 8:51 am
    Received:    28/4/98 12:19 am
    From:        Marc Wielage, XXX@XXXXXXrax.com
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
    
    IChippett <IChippXXX@XXXXXXm> commented on the Spectropop List:
    
    >Apart from the Beatles and the Beach Boys, the Hollies must
    >have had the biggest number of hits during the Sixties, in
    >Britain at least. They had a totally unique vocal sound and a
    >gift for choosing really catchy material. So what was missing?
    >Why did they never become Dinosaurs of the Rock World? (I hope
    >this is a suitable subject for discussion here on Spectropop).
    ------------------------<snip>------------------------
    
    Over here in the States, The Supremes, The 4 Seasons, and The 
    Stones had far more charted hits than The Hollies in the 1960s.
    In fact, just looking at the groups (non-solo artists), the top 
    commercial successes for the U.S. in this decade would be:
    
    The Beatles
    The Supremes
    The 4 Seasons
    The Beach Boys
    The Rolling Stones
    The Miracles
    The Temptations
    
    Surprisingly, The Hollies don't even make the Top 25 artists 
    for the decade. Part of the reason is that they only had 23 
    charted singles (only 15 of which hit during the 1960s). But 
    for their entire career, they're currently the #174th U.S. 
    chart success of all-time, which ain't bad.
    
    --MFW
    
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    ---[ archived by Spectropop - 28/4/98 - 06 :52:43 am ]---
    
    Subject:     Re: Hollies
    Sent:        27/4/98 2:46 am
    Received:    27/4/98 6:55 am
    From:        BashPop, BashXXX@XXXXXXm
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
    
    
    << Apart from the Beatles and the Beach Boys, the Hollies must 
     have had the biggest number of hits during the Sixties, in 
     Britain at least. They had a totally unique vocal sound and a 
     gift for choosing really catchy material. So what was missing? 
     Why did they never become Dinosaurs of the Rock World? (I hope 
     this is a suitable subject for discussion here on Spectropop).
     
     Best wishes
     
     Ian C>>
    
    Hi Ian,
    
    If what you mean by The Hollies never becoming "Dinosaurs of 
    the Rock World" is that they never acheived the huge success of
    other bands like The Beatles and The Stones, I think it's 
    because they never were able to come up with any classic albums
    , not in the sense that we measure greatness but in the sense 
    that the general public does. Although we on this list may laud
    such albums as "Evolution" or "Butterfly", the public didn't; it
    reached only #13 on the UK charts and, in it's altered U.S. 
    state, reached only #43 here. In fact, the Hollies never scored
    a top 10 album in the States. Sure, they had 18 top 10 hits in 
    the UK, but having a huge number of hits will not be enough to 
    propel the band into the annals of eternal greatness, unless 
    those hits are accompanied by a few well respected albums. Of 
    course, Soul groups are another story...
    
    --
    Spectropop Rules!!!!!
    Take Care,
    David 
    
    ---[ archived by Spectropop - 28/4/98 - 06 :52:43 am ]---
    
    Subject:     Only In America
    Sent:        28/4/98 4:06 am
    Received:    28/4/98 6:35 am
    From:        Jeff Glenn, Jeff_GlXXX@XXXXXX.nba.TRW.COM
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
    
    
    <btw, I understand Only In America was to be released by the 
    Drifters but Atlantic thought the subject matter was too 
    controversial for a black act to release. Does a Drifters 
    recording exist and is it available?>
    
    Jamie,
    The original Drifters version of "Only In America" (using the 
    same track as the Jay & the Americans version) is currently 
    available in the U.S. on Rhino/Atlantic's 3-CD Drifters box set
    ROCKIN' & DRIFTIN.' Go to CD Now's web site (www.cdnow.com); 
    they have the full track listing there. It's a great set!
    Hope this helps.
    
    Jeff
    
    ---[ archived by Spectropop - 28/4/98 - 06 :52:43 am ]---
    
    Subject:     Re: The Mockingbirds
    Sent:        27/4/98 2:58 am
    Received:    27/4/98 6:55 am
    From:        BashPop, BashXXX@XXXXXXm
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
    
    << I understand his first group the Whirlwinds have a track on Beat 
     at Abbey Road. Was Gouldman ever in a band called Mockingbirds? 
     What are there records like? Anyone know?
     --
     le_page_XXX@XXXXXXies.com>>
    
    Hi Jamie,
    
    The Mockingbirds released 5 singles during 1965-66, on various 
    labels. I have a couple of their songs on compilations: "You 
    Stole My Love" is a really good beat raver, and it appears on 
    the wonderful CD comp "The Immediate Alternative", on Sequel 
    Records. "One By One" is another beat number, but with more of 
    a folky flavor. It appears on "English Freakbeat: Volume 3", on
    Archive International Records (actually Bomp, but I'm not 
    supposed to tell!).
    
    Both Graham Gouldman and Kevin Godley, later of 10cc, appeared 
    in The Mockingbirds. It's difficult to tell who's singing lead 
    on these tracks, but I suspect it's Gouldman.
    
    --
    Spectropop Rules!!!!!
    Take Care,
    David
    
    ---[ archived by Spectropop - 28/4/98 - 06 :52:43 am ]---
    
    Subject:     Spring etc.
    Sent:        27/4/98 4:37 am
    Received:    27/4/98 6:55 am
    From:        harvey john williams, harvey.williXXX@XXXXXXcite.com
    To:          Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
    
    Hello there.
    I'm a new subscriber to Spectropop, and I'm finding it truly 
    fascinating. This is my first posting; it's great to be here. 
    I've been re-listening to the (American) Spring LP a lot 
    recently, & it occurred to me that I know zero about the LP's 
    co-writer/producer David Sandler. Anyone out there know of his 
    activities beyond this project? He's obviously a guy with a 
    devotion to the Brian Wilson Sound judging by the production on
    Spring, so more info would be gratefully received. (Brad? are you
    there?)
           Harvey.
    
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