________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ There are 12 messages in this issue of Spectropop. Topics in this Digest Number 270: 1. Re: Re: Tradewinds From: "Robert Conway" 2. "Mind Excursion," soft pop, & psychedelia From: "Joseph Scott" 3. Catch Me In The Meadow From: "Jeff Lemlich" 4. Re: Tradewinds LP From: James Botticelli 5. Re: Ellie Greenwich From: "Robert Conway" 6. Re: Gene Pitney: Ellie Greenwich From: marino223 7. Raiders - Mynd Excursions - O From: Alan Gordon 8. Re:the story of O From: James Botticelli 9. arrears From: Alan Gordon 10. bun-bustin' fun From: Stewart Mason 11. the sow must go on From: "Spector Collector" 12. Phil Spector From: Peter van Dam ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 13:44:16 -0500 From: "Robert Conway" Subject: Re: Re: Tradewinds Here is the only Anders and Poncia (Tradewinds, etc.) '60's best of CD that is currently available. Pricey of course but worth it. --Bob Conway Best [IMPORT] Anders N Poncia Audio CD (May 12, 1999) Track Listings 1. Mind Excursion 2. Catch Me In The Meadow 3. Bad Misunderstanding 4. New York' S A Lonely Town 5. I Believe In Her 6. Only When I'm Dreamin 7. Small Town Bring Down 8. To Be With You 9. Huggin In The Hall 10. Little Susan's Dreamin 11. There's Got To Be A Word 12. Mairzy Doats 13. Someone Got Caught In My 14. All I Ask 15. Your Show Is Over 16. A Lifetime Lovin You 17. Whence I Make Thee Mine 18. It's Not Gonna Take Too L 19. All I Do Is Think About Y 20. I Don't Wanna Be Around Y 21. Do You Believe In Magic 22. Day Turns Me On 23. So It Goes 24. Virgin To The Night 25. Yes We Have No Bananas 26. Sunrise Highway 27. Baby Baby Japanese Exclusive Release. Top quality pop from the 60's, September 19, 2000 Reviewer: Romain Duchesnes from Paris/ France The names Peter Anders and Andre Poncia may not sound familiar to you but you surely know some of their songs, like the gorgious "The Best Part Of Breaking Up", "Soldier Of Mine", "When I Saw You", "Do I Love You", that they wrote for the Ronettes while Spector was too busy with his other projects . Like Mann & Weil, Barry & Greenwich or Goffin & King, this is one of these cult duets of songwriters whose name was overshadowed by the people they worked with, Phil Spector & The Ronettes, and also Cher and Darlene Love . This compilation focuses on the 1965-1969 period, that is to say on their self-produced songs, mostly published under the names Tradewings and The Innocence. "New York Is A Lonely Town"(65) is a beautiful and vibrant surf-pop hit with a Spector-like production, There's Got To Be A Word", their most succesful single is also excellent, just as the other tracks, although it doesn't make up for the fact that their best release, The Tradewings' 1st LP "Excursion" has been unavailable for such a long time . This Best Of contains some tracks of this album, and that alone should justify you buying it . Anders & Poncia put an end to their collaboration in 69 and each of them went on producing minor pop records such as Mary Travers, Ringo Starr or Kiss. Bob Conway > > Does anyone know if there was ever a Trade Winds LP? > > James Botticelli > >I have a copy of a Tradewinds LP called "Excursions", >Kama-Sutra KLPS8057. > >Here's the track listing... > >Side 1 > >Mind Excursion >Catch Me In the Meadow >Bad Misunderstanding >New York's a Lonely Town >I Believe In Her > >Side Two > >Only When I'm Dreamin >Small Town Bring Down >To Be With You >Huggin In the Hall >Little Susan's Dreamin --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 13:21:56 -0600 From: "Joseph Scott" Subject: "Mind Excursion," soft pop, & psychedelia Hi all, The overlap between soft pop and psychedelic music is an interest of mine. I haven't heard the whole _Excursions_ LP, but imo a psychedelic music buff could make an argument that "Mind Excursion" qualifies as "real" psychedelia (which would make it one of the earlier psychedelic singles to chart, "Eight Miles High" and "Rain" being even earlier). LSD was still legal, and popular in New York (and L.A.) when Pete and Vinnie recorded this song. To provide a little context: there are specific mentions of "psychedelic music" in the N.Y. press starting in early '65 at the latest, which ties in with N.Y. being a base for L.S.D. advocates Timothy Leary and Allen Ginsberg. (Leary lectured about LSD accompanied by poppy raga folk music.) The best-known magazines were already writing whole articles about the popularity of LSD, and Capitol even put out a documentary LP about LSD, right around the same period as "Mind Excursion." As I understand it, psychedelic music and soft pop became seen as fairly incompatible some time _after_ '66, as pop music aimed at teenagers and younger split more into power trios and the like on the one hand and bubblegum on the other, but back in '66 soft pop was still seen as one of the perfectly "valid" approaches to making psychedelic music. Joseph Scott --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 16:19:24 -0400 From: "Jeff Lemlich" Subject: Catch Me In The Meadow > BTW, Tradewinds' "Catch Me In The Meadow" was also a 45! > Very pretty.... This is/was the closing theme for every radio show I've ever done, since college... on up through the Swamp Stomp on EyeQRadio. It might be a pretty-sounding song, but the lyrics are dead serious. Jeff Lemlich http://www.limestonerecords.com --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 4 Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 09:55:08 EDT From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Tradewinds LP Thanks to all who gave me the info on the Tradewinds LP. 50,000 Tradewinds fans can't be wrong! Now, is there anyone willing to burn me a copy???? I got lots of groovy stuff to trade..E-mail me privately......On another note, has anyone heard Dave Edmunds' "London's A Lonely Town (when you're the only surfer boy around)"?.. It is truly a fitting Tradwind tribute...JB --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 5 Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 19:51:27 -0500 From: "Robert Conway" Subject: Re: Ellie Greenwich > Bob: > > Do you mean another BrillTone Records disc? Shriek, > this boy is messing up my mind! Does Carole or Ellie > sing the chicken song? Always wondered if Carole K. > and Ellie G. ever crossed paths musically other than > each having a song on the side of a 45. This is great > news. Thanks. Yeah another pleasant surprise courtesy of the modern marvel of CD technology. Great pix in the liner notes as well. This is the third installment (I think)--I own the 3-CD set by Barry Mann, the two-CD set by Carole King, and now this wonderful 2-CD set by Ellie Gee and some surprise stuff like the demo acetate by Carole King, "Don't Count Your Chickens." Bob Conway --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 6 Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 04:43:07 -0000 From: marino223 Subject: Re: Gene Pitney: Ellie Greenwich "Robert Conway" wrote: > As a kid I always looked forward to each > new Musicor release. I would go to see the current-day > Gene Pitney in a heartbeat. > > I also managed to look at the new CD import section and > found the third installment in the Brill Building Sounds: > "Be My Baby" by Ellie Greenwich--a 2-CD set with 56 > tracks and 21 unreleased songs. It even includes a very > early, "never heard before" Carole King demo from an > acetate called "Don't Count Your Chickens"! (The > exclamation point is mine.) > > Bob Conway That is incredible! I have never heard that Carole King demo. Wasn't there a US release of this set? By the way, you'll have to wait a bit to see Pitney... his North American tour is over. He still tours extensively though. He will be touring the UK in February next year, hitting 25 venues in 31 days! I hope he comes back to the USA soon, as I've just discoved his music recently and would love to see him live. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 7 Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 10:40:18 -0700 From: Alan Gordon Subject: Raiders - Mynd Excursions - O I'm a new member here so hopefully, in my naivete I won't rehash too many old conversations. > "Guy L" wrote: > > If the powers that be at Sundazed are listening, by the > way, when are you going to reissue the Raiders christmas > album? First: if you're interested in Raiders stuff from Sundazed, you can call and talk to Kip Smith. He's a very open communicative guy who works as a production assistant to Perry and Inglot among others. He's also very forthcoming about their upcoming projects. And just as an aside. i'm sure you've picked up the Raiders Mojo Workout 2 cd set that came out fairly recently. It's the Raiders first album with an enormous amount of unreleased incredible "garage" material. David Feldman wrote: > > I think the song, "Mind Excursion," holds up particularly > well, with its lush, open melody and lovely lead vocal, > to me the most heartfelt in the Anders-Poncia canon. > There's a 30 song Import Sequel Records compilation called Mynd Excursions: A journey thru the vaults of Kamasutra Records on cd. It's really great. 6 Tradewinds cuts, plus, The Vacels, The innocence, The Brooklyn Bridge, The Pendulum, The Myddle Class and more. > Subject: Carole King on The Oprah Winfrey Show I'm sure Carole will be great. The only problem will be trying to ignore Oprahs pap. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 8 Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 15:22:56 EDT From: James Botticelli Subject: Re:the story of O In a message dated 10/20/01, spectropop writes: > look O right in the eye and say "Well, I think it feels > like passing a muskmelon through your urethra. How does > it feel to make billions of dollars telling other people > what to think?" Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...perfect! --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 9 Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 10:16:45 -0700 From: Alan Gordon Subject: arrears > "Don't be afraid to try the newest sport around..." you're not serious are you??? Bust your "Buns"... as in buns=butt, behind, posterior. al babe --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 10 Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 13:55:33 -0600 From: Stewart Mason Subject: bun-bustin' fun Jim Cassidy wrote: >"Bust your buns" ... as in fanny, rump, keister, butt, >booty, etc. Whoops! Remember, Paul's British! Talking about fannies in relation to this song will only confuse and embarrass him! Jan and Dean-related question: Is there a recommended and comprehensive compilation of the pre-surf Jan and Dean/Jan and Arnie recordings? I unexpectedly heard their version of "Heart and Soul" on my oldies station of choice a couple of weeks ago, leading me to pull out the United Artists ANTHOLOGY (the mid-'70s one with that cool Dean Torrance "evolution" cover) for the first time in ages, and I think those early singles are every bit the equal of the better-known later stuff. What was the deal with the drum mix on "Heart and Soul," anyway? I thought percussion didn't get pushed that far up into the mix until the disco era! Stewart --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 11 Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 18:46:26 +0000 From: "Spector Collector" Subject: the sow must go on Mick Patrick has now twice been raked over the coals for the concluding sentence from his charming reminiscences of a Ronnie Spector show of 24 years ago, namely, "I wonder how much I'll remember of this sow in another twenty-odd years." Those who wrote chided Mick for referring to the patron saint of girl groups as a sow, and while he hasn't yet stepped forward yet to defend himself, I must say that when I read his post, I interpreted this as an unfortunate typo, leaving the reader with an entirely different message than what I think he meant to write, "I wonder how much I'll remember of this *show* in another twenty-odd years." It's true that he began his detailed post by admitting that the original coverage of the event in the Phil Spector Appreciation Society newsletter had been, to put it mildly, patronizing, but it's hard for me to believe that he could come to such an extreme reactionary position all these years later. Please tell me I'm right, Mick! David A. Young --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 12 Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 13:59:14 -0000 From: Peter van Dam Subject: Phil Spector Hi folks, I am a newbie to this list, and very fond of music created by Phil Spector. Would like to have contact with other collectors around the world including my country, The Netherlands. good site, and very informative!!! thank you. Peter van Dam --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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