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Spectropop - Digest Number 270

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There are 12 messages in this issue of Spectropop.

Topics in this Digest Number 270:

      1. Re: Re: Tradewinds
           From: "Robert Conway" 
      2. "Mind Excursion," soft pop, & psychedelia
           From: "Joseph Scott" 
      3. Catch Me In The Meadow
           From: "Jeff Lemlich" 
      4. Re: Tradewinds LP
           From: James Botticelli 
      5. Re: Ellie Greenwich
           From: "Robert Conway" 
      6. Re: Gene Pitney: Ellie Greenwich
           From: marino223 
      7. Raiders - Mynd Excursions - O
           From: Alan Gordon 
      8. Re:the story of O
           From: James Botticelli 
      9. arrears
           From: Alan Gordon 
     10. bun-bustin' fun
           From: Stewart Mason 
     11. the sow must go on
           From: "Spector Collector" 
     12. Phil Spector
           From: Peter van Dam 


Message: 1
   Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 13:44:16 -0500
   From: "Robert Conway" 
Subject: Re: Re: Tradewinds

Here is the only Anders and Poncia (Tradewinds, etc.)
'60's best of CD that is currently available.  Pricey
of course but worth it.  --Bob Conway

Anders N Poncia
Audio CD (May 12, 1999)
Track Listings
1. Mind Excursion
2. Catch Me In The Meadow
3. Bad Misunderstanding
4. New York' S A Lonely Town
5. I Believe In Her
6. Only When I'm Dreamin
7. Small Town Bring Down
8. To Be With You
9. Huggin In The Hall
10. Little Susan's Dreamin
11. There's Got To Be A Word
12. Mairzy Doats
13. Someone Got Caught In My
14. All I Ask
15. Your Show Is Over
16. A Lifetime Lovin You
17. Whence I Make Thee Mine
18. It's Not Gonna Take Too L
19. All I Do Is Think About Y
20. I Don't Wanna Be Around Y
21. Do You Believe In Magic
22. Day Turns Me On
23. So It Goes
24. Virgin To The Night
25. Yes We Have No Bananas
26. Sunrise Highway
27. Baby Baby
Japanese Exclusive Release.

Top quality pop from the 60's, September 19, 2000
Reviewer: Romain Duchesnes from Paris/ France The names
Peter Anders and Andre Poncia may not sound familiar to
you but you surely know some of their songs, like the
gorgious "The Best Part Of Breaking Up", "Soldier Of
Mine", "When I Saw You", "Do I Love You", that they
wrote for the Ronettes while Spector was too busy with
his other projects . Like Mann & Weil, Barry & Greenwich
or Goffin & King, this is one of these cult duets of
songwriters whose name was overshadowed by the people
they worked with, Phil Spector & The Ronettes, and also
Cher and Darlene Love . This compilation focuses on the
1965-1969 period, that is to say on their self-produced
songs, mostly published under the names Tradewings and
The Innocence. "New York Is A Lonely Town"(65) is a
beautiful and vibrant surf-pop hit with a Spector-like
production, There's Got To Be A Word", their most
succesful single is also excellent, just as the other
tracks, although it doesn't make up for the fact that
their best release, The Tradewings' 1st LP "Excursion"
has been unavailable for such a long time . This Best Of
contains some tracks of this album, and that alone
should justify you buying it . Anders & Poncia put an
end to their collaboration in 69 and each of them went
on producing minor pop records such as Mary Travers,
Ringo Starr or Kiss.

Bob Conway

> >  Does anyone know if there was ever a Trade Winds LP?
> > James Botticelli
>I have a copy of a Tradewinds LP called "Excursions",
>Kama-Sutra KLPS8057.
>Here's the track listing...
>Side 1
>Mind Excursion
>Catch Me In the Meadow
>Bad Misunderstanding
>New York's a Lonely Town
>I Believe In Her
>Side Two
>Only When I'm Dreamin
>Small Town Bring Down
>To Be With You
>Huggin In the Hall
>Little Susan's Dreamin

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Message: 2
   Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 13:21:56 -0600
   From: "Joseph Scott" 
Subject: "Mind Excursion," soft pop, & psychedelia

Hi all,

The overlap between soft pop and psychedelic music is an
interest of mine. I haven't heard the whole _Excursions_
LP, but imo a psychedelic music buff could make an
argument that "Mind Excursion" qualifies as "real"
psychedelia (which would make it one of the earlier
psychedelic singles to chart, "Eight Miles High" and
"Rain" being even earlier). LSD was still legal, and
popular in New York (and L.A.) when Pete and Vinnie
recorded this song.

To provide a little context: there are specific mentions
of "psychedelic music" in the N.Y. press starting in
early '65 at the latest, which ties in with N.Y. being a
base for L.S.D. advocates Timothy Leary and Allen
Ginsberg. (Leary lectured about LSD accompanied by poppy
raga folk music.) The best-known magazines were already
writing whole articles about the popularity of LSD, and
Capitol even put out a documentary LP about LSD, right
around the same period as "Mind Excursion."

As I understand it, psychedelic music and soft pop
became seen as fairly incompatible some time _after_ '66,
as pop music aimed at teenagers and younger split more
into power trios and the like on the one hand and
bubblegum on the other, but back in '66 soft pop was
still seen as one of the perfectly "valid" approaches to
making psychedelic music.

Joseph Scott

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Message: 3
   Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 16:19:24 -0400
   From: "Jeff Lemlich" 
Subject: Catch Me In The Meadow

> BTW, Tradewinds' "Catch Me In The Meadow" was also a 45!
> Very pretty....

This is/was the closing theme for every radio show I've
ever done, since college... on up through the Swamp
Stomp on EyeQRadio.  It might be a pretty-sounding song,
but the lyrics are dead serious.

Jeff Lemlich

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Message: 4
   Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 09:55:08 EDT
   From: James Botticelli 
Subject: Re: Tradewinds LP

Thanks to all who gave me the info on the Tradewinds LP.
50,000 Tradewinds fans can't be wrong!  Now, is there
anyone willing to burn me a copy???? I got lots of groovy
stuff to trade..E-mail me privately......On another note,
has anyone heard Dave Edmunds' "London's A Lonely Town
(when you're the only surfer boy around)"?..

It is truly a fitting Tradwind tribute...JB

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Message: 5
   Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 19:51:27 -0500
   From: "Robert Conway" 
Subject: Re: Ellie Greenwich

> Bob:
> Do you mean another BrillTone Records disc?  Shriek,
> this boy is messing up my mind!  Does Carole or Ellie
> sing the chicken song? Always wondered if Carole K.
> and Ellie G. ever crossed paths musically other than
> each having a song on the side of a 45. This is great
> news.  Thanks.

Yeah another pleasant surprise courtesy of the modern
marvel of CD technology.  Great pix in the liner notes as
well.  This is the third installment (I think)--I own the
3-CD set by Barry Mann, the two-CD set by Carole King,
and now this wonderful 2-CD set by Ellie Gee and some
surprise stuff like the demo acetate by Carole King,
"Don't Count Your Chickens."

Bob Conway

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Message: 6
   Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 04:43:07 -0000
   From: marino223 
Subject: Re: Gene Pitney: Ellie Greenwich

"Robert Conway" wrote:

>  As a kid I always looked forward to each
> new Musicor release.  I would go to see the current-day
> Gene Pitney in a heartbeat.  
> I also managed to look at the new CD import section and
> found the third installment in the Brill Building Sounds:
> "Be My Baby" by Ellie Greenwich--a  2-CD set with 56
> tracks and 21 unreleased songs.  It even includes a very
> early, "never heard before" Carole King demo from an
> acetate called "Don't Count Your Chickens"! (The
> exclamation point is mine.)
> Bob Conway

That is incredible!  I have never heard that Carole King
demo.  Wasn't there a US release of this set?

By the way, you'll have to wait a bit to see Pitney...
his North American tour is over.  He still tours
extensively though.  He will be touring the UK in
February next year, hitting 25 venues in 31 days!  I hope
he comes back to the USA soon, as I've just discoved his
music recently and would love to see him live.

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Message: 7
   Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 10:40:18 -0700
   From: Alan Gordon 
Subject: Raiders - Mynd Excursions - O

I'm a new member here so hopefully, in my naivete I
won't rehash too many old conversations.
"Guy L" wrote:
> If the powers that be at Sundazed are listening, by the
> way, when are you going to reissue the Raiders christmas
> album?

First:  if you're interested in Raiders stuff from
Sundazed, you can call and talk to Kip Smith.  He's a
very open communicative guy who works as a production
assistant to Perry and Inglot among others.  He's also
very forthcoming about their upcoming projects.

And just as an aside.  i'm sure you've picked up the
Raiders Mojo Workout 2 cd set that came out fairly
recently.  It's the Raiders first album with an
enormous amount of unreleased incredible "garage"

 David Feldman wrote:
> I think the song, "Mind Excursion," holds up particularly
> well, with its lush, open melody and lovely lead vocal,
> to me the most heartfelt in the Anders-Poncia canon.

There's a 30 song Import Sequel Records compilation
called Mynd Excursions: A journey thru the vaults of
Kamasutra Records on cd.  It's really great.  6
Tradewinds cuts, plus, The Vacels, The innocence, The
Brooklyn Bridge, The Pendulum, The Myddle Class and more.

> Subject: Carole King on The Oprah Winfrey Show

I'm sure Carole will be great.  The only problem will be
trying to ignore Oprahs pap.

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Message: 8
   Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 15:22:56 EDT
   From: James Botticelli 
Subject: Re:the story of O

In a message dated 10/20/01, spectropop writes:

> look O right in the eye and say "Well, I think it feels
> like passing a muskmelon through your urethra. How does
> it feel to make billions of dollars telling other people
> what to think?" 


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Message: 9
   Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 10:16:45 -0700
   From: Alan Gordon 
Subject: arrears

> "Don't be afraid to try the newest sport around..."

you're not serious are you???

Bust your "Buns"... as in buns=butt, behind, posterior.

al babe

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Message: 10
   Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 13:55:33 -0600
   From: Stewart Mason 
Subject: bun-bustin' fun

Jim Cassidy wrote:

>"Bust your buns" ... as in fanny, rump, keister, butt, 
>booty, etc.

Whoops!  Remember, Paul's British!  Talking about fannies
in relation to this song will only confuse and embarrass

Jan and Dean-related question: Is there a recommended and
comprehensive compilation of the pre-surf Jan and
Dean/Jan and Arnie recordings?  I unexpectedly heard
their version of "Heart and Soul" on my oldies station of
choice a couple of weeks ago, leading me to pull out the
United Artists ANTHOLOGY (the mid-'70s one with that cool
Dean Torrance "evolution" cover) for the first time in
ages, and I think those early singles are every bit the
equal of the better-known later stuff.  What was the deal
with the drum mix on "Heart and Soul," anyway?  I thought
percussion didn't get pushed that far up into the mix
until the disco era!


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Message: 11
   Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 18:46:26 +0000
   From: "Spector Collector" 
Subject: the sow must go on

Mick Patrick has now twice been raked over the coals for
the concluding sentence from his charming reminiscences
of a Ronnie Spector show of 24 years ago, namely, "I
wonder how much I'll remember of this sow in another
twenty-odd years." Those who wrote chided Mick for
referring to the patron saint of girl groups as a sow,
and while he hasn't yet stepped forward yet to defend
himself, I must say that when I read his post, I
interpreted this as an unfortunate typo, leaving the
reader with an entirely different message than what I
think he meant to write, "I wonder how much I'll
remember of this *show* in another twenty-odd years."

It's true that he began his detailed post by admitting
that the original coverage of the event in the Phil
Spector Appreciation Society newsletter had been, to put
it mildly, patronizing, but it's hard for me to believe
that he could come to such an extreme reactionary
position all these years later.

Please tell me I'm right, Mick!
David A. Young

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Message: 12
   Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 13:59:14 -0000
   From: Peter van Dam 
Subject: Phil Spector

Hi folks,

I am a newbie to this list, and very fond of music
created by Phil Spector. Would like to have contact
with other collectors around the world including my
country, The Netherlands. good site, and very
informative!!! thank you.

Peter van Dam

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