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There are 12 messages in this issue of Spectropop.

Topics in this Digest Number 266:

      1. PARADISE LIVE
           From: Mick Patrick 
      2. Re: Phil on Jeannie TV
           From: Alan Gordon 
      3. Hey Jeannie
           From: "GSPECTOR" 
      4. Re: Phil on Jeannie TV
           From: "Mike Arcidiacono" 
      5. Re: Spector
           From: Carol Kaye 
      6. Re: Trade Winds
           From: Stephane Rebeschini 
      7. Re:  BOETTCHER'S BOOTIQUES
           From: pollicesteeve 
      8. Sunshine/Curt query
           From: "Kingsley Abbott" 
      9. Snuffy
           From: Doc Rock 
     10. Re: Snuff Garrett
           From: Stephane Rebeschini 
     11. Re: Snuff Garrett
           From: Marc Wielage 
     12. Gene Pitney/Harpers Bizarre
           From: Stewart Mason 


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Message: 1
   Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 22:31:58 +0100 (BST)
   From: Mick Patrick 
Subject: PARADISE LIVE

Greetings,

I had cause to flick through some of the old Phil Spector
Appreciation Society newsletters recently. How gushing
and polite they were. Take the review of Ronnie Spector's
1979 London shows. That's not how it was at all. Here's a
less rose-tinted review of that event......

The set list consisted of "Be Me Baby", "Baby I Love You",
"Do I Love You", "The Best Part Of Breaking Up", "Walking
In The Rain", "So Young", "It's A Heartache", "Say
Goodbye To Hollywood" and, believe it or not, "Boogie
Oogie Oogie". I seem to recall wondering if that last
song would EVER end. The young man Ronnie invited up on
to the stage to dance with her seemed to be enjoying
himself, though. Someone rushed on to give Miss Ronette a
huge bouquet of flowers before she vanished into the
wings for a drink.

As the stomping and yelling finally subsided we patrons
began vacating our tables to venture out into the cold
streets of London. It was then announced via the P.A.
that we were all invited to remain in our seats and stay
for the second show. I emerged dishevelled from the
stampede to find myself sharing a front table with two
rather loud and drunken pals. I sensed a commotion and as
i looked up I realised that one of my companions had
gotten rather warm and had dropped her dungarees and
removed her T shirt to cool off. The audience yelled for
more and she told them to "Eff off". But I digress.

Ronnie and her band played the same set for the midnight
crowd. As before, "Boogie Oogie Oogie" lasted forever
with Ronnie topping her previous performance by undoing
some punter's fly with her teeth during her extended
dance routine. The audience were SO impressed. Certain
members of the crowd had become particularly vocal by
this time. "Try Some, Buy Some", they screamed. "We don't
do that one", Ronnie purred. "Then He Kised Me". "Hey,
that's not one of mine". "Is This What I Get For Loving",
they retaliated. "OK", said Ronnie as she launched into
an a cappella rendition. "I Wonder!". She sang a bit of
that one too. And "I Wish I Never Saw The Sunshine". AND
"PARADISE". With her repertoire now totally exhausted and
pausing only to accept another bouquet (actually the same
bunch of flowers from the first show) Ronnie ran off the
stage. She reappeared briefly and, as one final encore,
lifted up her bolero top to reveal her breasts. They were
far less pendulous than my friend Margaret's. I awoke the
next morning to discover that I had totally lost my voice.

I wonder how much I'll remember of this sow in another
twenty-odd years. Anyone else out there see Ronnie
perform "Paradise" live?

MICK PATRICK


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Message: 2
   Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:44:18 -0700
   From: Alan Gordon 
Subject: Re: Phil on Jeannie TV

Wasn't it : "I Wonder What She's Doing Tonight"?

Al Babe

Mark Landwehr wrote:

> Hey, Spectropoppers...I would like to know the name of
> one of the songs done by Boyce & Hart on the "I Dream of
> Jeannie" episode that Uncle Phil appeared in...
>
> The episode was called "Jeannie the Hip Hippie" I believe,
> and B&H sang "Out and About" and one other song...I saw
> it, but the mind is weak...I figure if anyone knows, it's
> the Spectropop gang!!!
>


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Message: 3
   Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:25:16 -0600
   From: "GSPECTOR" 
Subject: Hey Jeannie

Mark Landwehr wrote:

> "Hey, Spectropoppers...I would like to know the name of
> one of the songs done by Boyce & Hart on the "I Dream of
> Jeannie" episode that Uncle Phil appeared in...
> 
> The episode was called "Jeannie the Hip Hippie" I believe,
> and B&H sang "Out and About" and one other song...I saw
> it, but the mind is weak...I figure if anyone knows, it's
> the Spectropop gang!!! 

After listening to the episode again, I think the 1st
song they sang was called "Hey" but that's only a guess
since they gave no titles at the end of the show. 

Just wondering, Uncle Phil?


>From the Keyboard of: 
Gary Spector
Not just another P.S. Fan, His Son.?


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Message: 4
   Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 20:39:21 -0400
   From: "Mike Arcidiacono" 
Subject: Re: Phil on Jeannie TV

> The episode was called "Jeannie the Hip Hippie" I believe,
> and B&H sang "Out and About" and one other song...I saw
> it, but the mind is weak...I figure if anyone knows, it's
> the Spectropop gang!!!


the other song was "Girl I'm Out To Get You"

Mikey


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Message: 5
   Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:12:14 -0700
   From: Carol Kaye 
Subject: Re: Spector

> As far as Phil being portrayed as a taskmaster and not
> easy to work for, it never shows on these tapes.

No, Spector was never hard to work for, wasn't a
"taskmaster" except....that sometimes he wouldn't
observe Union-mandated breaks and tho' we were all game
for working long hours - no problem, it got a bit much
to do go without bathroom breaks sometimes.  He
respected us tho', was good to work for and sometimes
fun too...altho' a few musicians and singers later said
some other things.  It got boring tho' doing 1 song for
3 hours.

I doubt if the friendly insulting would ever be allowed
on any tape tho'......sometimes you felt like it was
"group therapy" when Phil got a little playful but
mostly, musicians would tease him back, except one who
walked out on one date. 

Carol Kaye http://www.carolkaye.com/


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Message: 6
   Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:15:25 +0200
   From: Stephane Rebeschini 
Subject: Re: Trade Winds

Kingsley Abbott wrote:

> Now to return to our sort of pop, I noticed the brief
> phrase 'mind excursion' used which of course reminded me
> of that great Anders/Poncia Trade Winds song.  Does
> anyone have any info on where they are and what they're
> doing at present?  Record execs somewhere?  Still
> writing?   I'd love to hear if anyone knows.  Also if
> there are any more Trade Winds tracks hidden away
> anywhere...  Their (Anders/Poncia) writing and recording
> still is one of my very favourite sixties moments.
> 
> Kingsley Abbott
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Bonjour de France

As you probably know, Anders (real name :Peter Andreoli)
and Vinnie Poncia also recorded as The Innocence (one LP
on Kama Sutra). Circa 1970 they released another LP as
"Anders & Poncia" on Warner (with some fine Ry Cooder
interventions on guitar), produced by Richard Perry. 

They also created and managed the Map City label and
mostly released heavy rock, pop groups and black
soul/rock acts between 1969 & 1973. Anders released a
solo LP in 1972 on Family Productions Records and seems
to have stopped recording after that.

During the 70's, Poncia was credited on several albums
of Ringo Starr as a singer and songwriter. 

He also cowrote "I Was Made For Loving You Baby" for
Kiss, the hard rock group...With the royalties of this
hit, I guess he was able to go on long holidays and
apparently stopped to write or record.

Stephane Rebeschini


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Message: 7
   Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:12:44 EDT
   From: pollicesteeve 
Subject: Re:  BOETTCHER'S BOOTIQUES

I've got 2 Boettcher rarities cd one of them present 2
tracks from the Bootigues (with a "g" in the name as
it's written on the back of the cover) called "Did You
Get Fun?" & "Mr Man On The Moon"

I got this information. It looks like a single. Don't
know which a side is. Year: 1966 released number: Date,
1513 .

Sorry that's all. But I can give you a web page of
Boettcher information (kind of a trade list, don't know
if I can post it here). E-mail me off list.

I hope it can help.


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Message: 8
   Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:59:29 +0100
   From: "Kingsley Abbott" 
Subject: Sunshine/Curt query

With ref to Brian C's query about possible Curt Boettcher
involvement with The Sunshine Company, I don't know of
any beyond him being the writer of a couple of their
album tracks ('I Just Want To be Your Friend' on the
first album and 'If You Only Knew' on the second one, the
latter being credited to Curtis Boettcher).  The SC wrote
a lot of their own material, especially after the first
album, and were otherwise noted for some perceptive
choices of other writers to cover (eg Steve Gillette and
the Boylans). I am in indirect contact with SC mainman
Maury Manseau, so I will try to check further and report
back.

Kingsley Abbott

PS For any British fans, Brian Wilson is confirmed
playing London's Royal Festival Hall on Jan 28/29/30 2002.
Anyone who knows me will understand how pleased I am to
write this!!!  Phone London Number 0207 960 4242 (RFH box
office) for tickets.


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Message: 9
   Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 20:22:44 -0400
   From: Doc Rock 
Subject: Snuffy

> Snuff was strictly a POP producer. When hooked up with
> the right singer (Vee, Lewis, Hyland) song and studio
> pro's he could work Top 40 magic. BTW did Snuff ever
> work with any female singers/groups? Just Curious!
> 
> Billy


Snuffy produced Vikki Carr's "He's A Rebel!"

Doc


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Message: 10
   Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:22:22 +0200
   From: Stephane Rebeschini 
Subject: Re: Snuff Garrett

"Billy G. Spradlin" wrote:
> 
> Snuff was strictly a POP producer. When hooked up with
> the right singer (Vee, Lewis, Hyland) song and studio
> pros he could work Top 40 magic. BTW did Snuff ever
> work with any female singers/groups? Just Curious!
> 
> Billy
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Bonjour de France

In the 50's, Snuff Garrett worked for a while with Julie
London. In 1974, he produced an awful "lounge pop" album
"Like Good Wine" for Brenda Patterson, an excellent
Memphis singer. She has a great voice but the album is a
total disaster, marred by strings, strings and more
strings.

Stephane Rebeschini


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Message: 11
   Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:23:51 -0700
   From: Marc Wielage 
Subject: Re: Snuff Garrett

Monophonius commented on the SpectroPop group:

> To quote Mark Ribowsky: "Garrett was, in Phil's mind,
> the only L.A. producer who really mattered in Sixties
> rock." 
> 
> There is little mention of Garrett hereabouts and I'm
> wondering why? Let's make some comparisons.
> 
> Phil produced eighteen (18) Top 10 records starting in
> 1958. Snuff produced twenty-two (22) Top 10 records
> starting in 1960.
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Small correction:  Spector had TWENTY-ONE Top 10 records
on the U.S. BILLBOARD charts, as follows:

  9/8/1958 |   #1 (3 wks.) - The Teddy Bears: "To Know Him, Is to Love Him"
 11/7/1960 |   #9 (2 wks.) - Ray Peterson: "Corinna, Corinna"
12/17/1960 |  #10  (1 wk.) - Ben E. King: "Spanish Harlem"
 6/19/1961 |   #7 (3 wks.) - Curtis Lee: "Pretty Little Angel Eyes"
 8/21/1961 |   #5  (1 wk.) - The Paris Sisters: "I Love How You Love Me"
 4/28/1962 |   #7 (2 wks.) - Connie Francis: "Second Hand Love"
 8/25/1962 |   #1 (2 wks.) - The Crystals: "He's a Rebel"
 11/3/1962 |   #8  (1 wk.) - Bob B. Soxx & The Blue Jeans: "Zip-A-Dee Doo-Dah"
 4/13/1963 |   #3  (1 wk.) - The Crystals: "Da Doo Ron Ron"
  8/3/1963 |   #6 (3 wks.) - The Crystals: "Then He Kissed Me"
 8/17/1963 |   #2 (3 wks.) - The Ronettes: "Be My Baby"
11/28/1964 |   #1 (2 wks.) - The Righteous Brothers: "You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'"
 3/27/1965 |   #9 (2 wks.) - The Righteous Brothers: "Just Once in My Life"
  7/3/1965 |   #4 (2 wks.) - The Righteous Brothers: "Unchained Melody"
11/20/1965 |   #5 (2 wks.) - The Righteous Brothers: "Ebb Tide"
 2/19/1966 |   #1 (3 wks.) - The Righteous Brothers: "(You're My) Soul and Inspiration"
 2/14/1970 |   #3 (3 wks.) - John Ono Lennon: "Instant Karma (We All Shine On)"
11/14/1970 |   #1 (4 wks.) - George Harrison: "My Sweet Lord"
11/14/1970 |   #1 (B-side) - George Harrison: "Isn't It a Pity"
 2/13/1971 |  #10  (1 wk.) - George Harrison: "What Is Life"
 10/9/1971 |   #3 (2 wks.) - John Lennon & The Plastic Ono Band: "Imagine"

Granted, "Spanish Harlem" was a co-production with Leiber
& Stoller, and some contend that Bill Medley produced or
co-produced "Unchained Medley." And the Lennon & Harrison
solo hits were also co-productions (plus "Isn't It a Pity"
was a B-side of a 2-sided hit).

But regardless, there's a lotta hits there.  And I agree
with you that Snuff Garrett is a producer who's not
remembered as much as he should be.  Seven Top 10 hits
alone with Gary Lewis ain't bad, and I believe he also
did several of Cher's major solo hits as well, along with
Brian Hyland and Gene McDaniels.


--MFW

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Message: 12
   Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 12:07:53 -0600
   From: Stewart Mason 
Subject: Gene Pitney/Harpers Bizarre

Gene's playing a Rock and Roll Revival show here in
Albuquerque (with full orchestra, according to the radio
ads) on Saturday.  Has anybody seen our Gene recently? 
Has he still got his chops, or will it just make me sad
and uncomfortable?  (I'm assuming that the opening act,
David Sommerville of the Diamonds, will make me sad and
uncomfortable all by himself.)

Also, any word yet on Sundazed's new Harpers Bizarre
reissues?  I have no choice but to buy them eventually
(not least so I can review them for one of my outlets,
because I've been looking for an excuse to do a "Harpers
Bizarre kicked ass" story for years) but I'm a bit skint
at the moment. How's the liner notes and such?

Perry?  Any stories about the HB sessions?  I've often
detected a subtle but unmistakable whiff of brattiness
and deliberate perversity in their music, which is why
it's always frustrated me that to the extent they're
thought of at all, they're dismissed as lightweight
choirboys.  Clearly, they were really sunshine pop's
Steely Dan!

Stewart


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