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There are 18 messages in this issue of Spectropop.

Topics in this Digest Number 259:

      1. poor old Bob Crewe
           From: "Phil Chapman" 
      2. THEN HE KISSED ME
           From: Mick Patrick 
      3. "EXPERTS", BEAT BABIES V. SWING CHIRPS & BRIAN WILSON ON PHIL SPECTOR
           From: Mick Patrick 
      4. RE: Unending Unchained
           From: Frank 
      5. RE: ListenTo Unchained
           From: "Keith Beach" 
      6. Re: P.S.
           From: Carol Kaye 
      7. Club Medley
           From: LePageWeb 
      8. Unhinged Malady
           From: "Phil Chapman" 
      9. Re: Various
           From: Carol Kaye 
     10. Oldham told 'em
           From: "Phil Chapman" 
     11. Josie & the Pussycats
           From: Will George 
     12. Re: Josie & the Pussycats
           From: "Don Charles" 
     13. RE: Oldham told 'em
           From: "Keith Beach" 
     14. Mojo Workin'
           From: Andrew Hickey 
     15. Re: Mojo Collections
           From: Frank 
     16. Re: Oldham told 'em
           From: Mike W 
     17. Re: Oldham told 'em
           From: LePageWeb 
     18. FANITA'S DREAMERS
           From: Mick Patrick 


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Message: 1
   Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 16:00:27 +0100
   From: "Phil Chapman" 
Subject: poor old Bob Crewe

> but now that Mr. Crewe has quoted $150,000 for his
> name and likeness rights...why destroy the stock? Why
> not just replace the front sleeve? "Mick and Malcolm
> present The Dynovoice Story - Devil with a Blue Dress
> On" or something like that.

But isn't that MICK's likeness on the Dynosaur Story? -
It must be galling for Bob Crewe to be continually
mistaken for undercover agent Patrick. Apparently, it's
easily done. Last time I saw him, he didn't look as if he
was coming up for 70 next month - but I suppose he must
have at some time.

In the sprit of concern for the elderly, perhaps the
stock could be turned over to Spectropop, and all 500
members could each donate $300 to the Bob Crewe Maturity
Fund. Would that appease the Gods, d'y think?


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Message: 2
   Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 09:31:42 +0100 (BST)
   From: Mick Patrick 
Subject: THEN HE KISSED ME

Greetings,

Original message:

> If you were a woman I could kiss you!!
> Thanks for giving me the information I was looking for.
> Ton Borsboom

Gasp! Is Ton the first to openly declare his sexual
preference on Spectropop? If I'd have known there was a
snog on offer I'd have thought about trying to identify
that mystery artist myself.

With or without tongues?

MICK PATRICK


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Message: 3
   Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 10:29:25 +0100 (BST)
   From: Mick Patrick 
Subject: "EXPERTS", BEAT BABIES V. SWING CHIRPS & BRIAN WILSON ON PHIL SPECTOR

Greetings,

The autumn issue of Mojo Collections magazine contains an
interview with Brian Wilson talking about his musical
influences - the Four Freshmen, Rosemary Clooney, the Bee
Gees, Little Richard, Pilot (!).  Here's what the mad
genius has to say about Phil Spector:

"...Phil Spector...was probably the biggest influence of
all.  'Be My Baby', which has one of the most straight
ahead rhythms I've ever heard in my life, had a feeling
about it that made me want to create something good. 
That's where I learned how to produce records.  Anybody
with a good ear can hear that I was influenced by Spector.
I would listen to his records and pick up ideas.  I'd try
to work out how much echo he was using on particular
instruments, and how he achieved that particular sound. 
My song 'Please Let Me Wonder' came from listening to
'Walking In The Rain'.  I was lucky to be able to meet
him several times.  I found him very easy to talk to.  We
worked together in 1965 on a song called 'Don't Hurt My
Little Sister'.  He cut a track for it and he asked me to
come down to Gold Star Studio and watch him produce it. 
So I got my ass down there and he did produce it, but he
never finished it.  So that never appeared".

This magazine also contains a good looking 5 page Bob
Stanley article about Phil Spector 45s.  So if you're the
kind of person who has to have everything ever written
about Phil Spector, you need this issue of Mojo
Collections.

Talking of Bob Stanley, I just got myself a copy of his
new REFLECTIONS: DREAM BABES #2 compilation on RPM.  The
sleevenotes state that the "vocal harmonies (of the Three
Bells) recall those of an earlier era".  Hhhmmm, strikes
me that those Bell gals are not the only culprits. 
That's the trouble with a lot of Brit Girls.  Too many of
them sound like trilling Kathy Kirby/Susan Maughan-style
throwbacks to the band singer days. Is that a bad thing? 
In this context, probably yes.  Even Elkie Brooks sounds
like Doris Day (albeit on 40 a day).  No wonder she finds
her early discs an embarassment.  Some of these poppets
make Pet Clark sound like Aretha Franklin!  Oh, for a
track by bonny Tawney Reed, wee Lulu or the Breakaways! 
Still, one mustn't blame the compiler for the fact that
those beat babies were on another label.  It's not that I
have anything against band singers (known as 'swing
chirps' in the trade, my mum tells me) of the 1940s and
1950s.  In fact, some of you may be aware that my mother
was a swing chirp herself.  However, good vocalists CAN
be found on this set.  Samantha Jones, for example, was a
fabulous singer, as was Helen Shapiro.  And lovely Linda
Laine comes across like a limey Peggy Santiglia.  The two
tracks by Jean & the Statesides also stand out.  Over all
I find the track selection rather idiosyncratic.  Is that
a bad thing?  No, not really.  Jackie DeShannon fans will
enjoy the versions of "You Won't Forget Me" and
"Splendour In The Grass".  Design (by Neil Dell) and
sleevenotes (by Keiron Tyler) are top class but I'm sure
"Putty In Your Hands" sounds better on my old Jean & the
Statesides 45 than it does here.

Moving on...How good it is to have a specific question
like "Who is Mike Patterson?" answered by Peter Richmond,
a man who really knows his subject. Thanks for letting us
know that Mike Patterson wasn't a made-up name, Peter. 

MICK PATRICK


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Message: 4
   Date: Sun, 07 Oct 01 08:15:13 +0200
   From: Frank 
Subject: RE: Unending Unchained

> To those who say that UM "SOUNDS" like Spector (and
> that's the whole basis for their belief), I say, "So
> what if it does?"...Alder Ray's single "'Cuz I Love
> Him"/"A Little Love Will Go a Long Way" (to name just
> one example out of many) SOUNDS like a Spector job,
> too...But it ain't.

And who would say that the Leonard Cohen tracks sound
like a Spector job????

Frank


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Message: 5
   Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 11:38:24 +0100
   From: "Keith Beach" 
Subject: RE: ListenTo Unchained

The two cents worth on "Unchained Melody" from
Monophonius was almost exactly what I was going to add
to this thread.

To my aged ears the rhythm track sounds too
'thin'/'tinny' for a Spector production of that time.
Compare it to 'Hung on you' rhythm track. The rest of
the production has Spectorian pretensions...which
probably means Nitzchean involvement (?). Philles would
have paid for this session, as Righteous Brothers were
his major act at the time, but to Phil's ear it
probably seemed like an inferior production and song,
so why not use it to back up another 'masterpiece' of
his own? Where's the harm? He knew his audience and was
infallible...wasn't he?

So why did DJ's flip the single for airplay?

Well, I listened to "Hung on you" many times again last
night - what else is there to do on a wet October
Saturday night? - and much as I love the 'sound' he
achieved it does seem an overblown production on a
rather dreary song - it seems much better on the
original Carole King acetate (before Spector 'rewrote'
parts). The Spector backing track has wonderfully
complicated musical things going on, but overall it
must have sounded a mess on the radio compared to the
clear precision of "You've lost that lovin'
feelin'"...and I think "Unchained Melody" has a similar
clear precision about its 'sound' and vocal. DJs and
the record-buying public must have been a little tired
of yet another soundalike, and I'm sure Bill Medley and
Phil Spector never dreamed in a million years that the
track would be a hit in its own right.

The fact is that "You've" and "Unchained" have 'staying'
power, and most of their other output has faded from
the public memory. 

A major part of the Righteous Brothers appeal was that
they were a 'Boy Band' of the time, relatively good to
listen to, but gorgeous to look at.

And, like the Walker Brothers, et al, without the right
people and song behind them they just got left behind
as music moved on.

Aging Keith Beach


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Message: 6
   Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 17:01:30 -0700
   From: Carol Kaye 
Subject: Re: P.S.

I know a fellow by the name of Tom Campbell who was the
bass player for the Righteous Bros. on the road and am
waiting for news from him about those days in the 60s
traveling and playing.  He's a good bass player and a
personal friend of mine...we met 3 years ago when I was
playing a jazz gig at Papashons in Encino, and has taken
a jazz improv lesson with me, getting back into bass
again.  He's been a vip railroad exec in Texas for many
years but is now playing again.  So will pass on any
info I get from him.  

Carol Kaye  
http://www.carolkaye.com/


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Message: 7
   Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 17:56:23 +0900
   From: LePageWeb 
Subject: Club Medley

"Peter Richmond" wrote:

>Paul Urbahns wrote
>
> >Who was (is?) Mike Patterson.
> 
> Mike Patterson was on old school friend of Bill Medley's,
> his band the Rhythm Rockers.

Welcome, Peter! Wonderful to have you here. I had always
assumed Patterson was a kind of local surf/r&b type of
road musician. Thanks for confirming.

> I do find it hard to believe that at Philles Records...
> the owner himself would not be credited as producer
> of "Unchained Melody" until after it became obvious
> that it was receiving more airplay than the main side,
> "Hung On You".

Yes. Indeed, this is where the thread started. All seem
to agree this is inconsistent with Spector's practice.

But the contention asks a lot more than it answers -
perhaps you can help clarify?

1. Why did Spector suddenly give Medley a budget to use
the "good" musicians and a real string section?

2. Spector put junk on B sides - Why didn't he use a
typical Mike Patterson filler track on the B?

3. Spector liked to keep the B-side publishing - Why did
he use a cover on the B side this time?

4. If it's a Medley production, why has the credit never
been corrected (typically incorrect credits are
corrected on subsequent pressings/releases)?

5. If Medley produced the Phil Spector Productions
master, why is the Medley-produced Curb soundalike of
such lesser quality?

6. Spector undoubtedly booked the studio and musicians,
approved the budget, paid the studio and local #47,
supervised the selection, mastering, pressing and
release on his own label. That's usually called record
production. And of course, the master is indisputably a
Phil Spector Productions master. What did Medley do
exactly?

7. Finally, from this point forward Bill and Bobby were
at each other's throats, right? As you wrote in the
Philately #4 - Xmas '84 article, Spector produced all
the Hatfield sides and Medley did his own. If this
indeed was a Medley production - why Hatfield on lead? 

The lack of producer credit on the initial pressing is
significant, as is the atypically sparse sound of the
rhythm track. No one seems to disagree with these
points. But given those two pieces of evidence, the
contention that Medley produced the side asks a heck of
a lot more than it answers. 

You, if anyone, should be able to offer expert opinion
on these seven points, Any further light you can shed
will be most appreciated. 

Let me take this opportunity to say how much I enjoy
your fabulous Righteous Brothers website.


Best wishes always,

Jamie


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Message: 8
   Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 16:00:24 +0100
   From: "Phil Chapman" 
Subject: Unhinged Malady

I suggest we hold a 'Was it Bill or Phil' member poll.

One thing Phil paid great attention to was public image.
I find it perfectly feasible he would want to take the
credit for something that was accidentally successful on
his own label, however unintended. I don't think the
initial omission of producer credit was an oversight,
Phil took great care in this department as well. I still
support the contentious theory that the release of the
truly magnificent "Paradise" was withheld because of a
dispute with Harry Nilsson over writing credits/split. I
once took the opportunity to ask HN at a recording
session, but he wouldn't be drawn - which wasn't a
denial!


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Message: 9
   Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 17:01:48 -0700
   From: Carol Kaye 
Subject: Re: Various

> BTW, Carol, MANY YEARS seperate the Righteous Brothers'
> Philles version and their VILE recut. It's impossible to
> confuse the two versions.

That was exactly Don Randi's point when our Musicians'
Union first started to say it "wasn't us" on the popular
one used in "Ghost"...he was able to quickly convince
them it "was us" and the one we cut in the 60s.  I
personally don't remember details on that date like I do
"You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin", probably because the
tune didn't move me that much etc. like YLTLF did.

To Mick, just a quick thank-you for your comments...I
haven't seen the book yet, good to hear it's out etc.

> drugs offer an easy and certainly undeniable partial
> explanation....but my impression is that there was
> something else which engendered in brian this wholesale
> transformation from a vital, bright, and well-spoken man
> into , well......something much different than that.

Peter, first of all, thank-you for your nice words. 
About Brian Wilson, and many of us have been quoted on
many film documentaries and radio shows (but very little
of what we said was finally used on the films and radio
shows etc.)....and so I know what others have said too,
this is pretty much what I'll say here.

We noticed no change in Brian all the time we recorded
for him in the studios....he was always lucid, commanded
a great production always, and good to work for (he knew
what he was doing as you can tell on those talk-back
tapes, that was Brian), and full of subtle humor and
like you say, totally in command, and toward the latter
years was more whimsical, i.e. bringing fire-hats to the
date (only Lyle Ritz and think one other wore the
fire-hat along with Brian as we did the sawing, the
riveting, the hammering for the "fire session" etc. at
Gold Star)....he was happy that his productions were
selling records, Brian never mentioned the Beatles as
competition but a few times in passing, in admiration it
seemed to me.

The things presented in the 2-part movie about the BB's,
especially the 2nd part, pertaining to me, that never
happened and I was appalled at the stupidness of that
2nd part totally.....was a total opposite of how Brian
really was, almost laughable but very slanderous - Brian
was NOT like that at all in his personality.......I
never saw gold records "given away", nor don't remember
any fight between him and his dad who yes, once in
awhile did drop by, but only for an instant and think
that was 1-2x in all the dates I did.....

if some fight developed, it must have been quick and out
the door as I didn't see that at all (but did hear on a
tape, the vocal-overdub thing where Murry was drunk and
railing against Brian....on Help Me Rhonda....that was
horrible, I had to put up with a weirdo-dad like that
too in my youth and one of my husbands who I quickly
divorced) -- that didn't happen on any of our tracking
dates which were always great with Brian....sometimes
boring, yes, doing 1 song in 3 hours (as opposed to
recording 3-4-5 songs in 3 hours with others) but we
admired Brian, knew he was after something big and we
loved working for him.

I worked for Murry on the Sun-Rays things too and he was
always a pretty sharp nice guy, but of course we weren't
his kids.....

What happened to Brian?  I don't really have the details
on that.  But from what I have known and understood by
now, is that probably success was too fast (he was very
young as the rest of the BB's were too), too many inside
pressures, his unresolved issues with his father maybe,
and certainly drugs hide all those things and make it
all worse.....

I don't know much about his personal life...he and
Marilyn would visit me (3x at my house in the 60s) and
we'd chat, Marilyn and I would, while Brian loved to sit
in my Niagra back-roller chair....he did complain a
little of back/neck problems and his ear
sometimes.....he loved relaxing while we talked.  He was
the same outside the studio to me.

But....I stopped working for him and all the other
current pop groups in 1969, did my publishing co. bit
and had heard about his drug use which I was totally
against - I even stopped working for Frank Zappa because
of his porno lyrics, I had kids and didn't want to be on

anything with those kinds of words on the music altho' I
admired Frank too.....he understood...yes I was and
still am anti-drug etc.

And I'm sorry I lost touch with Brian, I always loved to
work for him, and respected him greatly and when I went
back to work in 1970 (after my 8-month hiatus), I turned
down  working for all the rock groups, and inc. Motown,
and only took what seemed more like Ray Charles, Mancini,
those types of dates, and concentrated more on the TV
and movie scores. And so lost touch with Brian
unfortunately but kept hearing all kinds of stuff about
him I just couldn't believe (by 1979 I was in Colorado
and semi-retired as I was suffering from TMJ and
arthritic problems).

When I saw Brian get angry on the TV news (80s), think
it was when Mike Love was suing him, I knew that what
people were saying was wrong....he was just evidently
going through a bad time in his life, he was the same
Brian I admired and knew.  I wrote him but never heard
back......but eventually had my 2nd TMJ surgery which
put me back in action, and started playing again, had
moved back to Calif. and worked for Brian, met Melinda
who I quickly admired and it was great to work for Brian
again 1997.....we kidded and while you could tell he'd
been through a lot of bad stuff, he was the same to me,
just older and have had dinner with him and Melinda a
few times, seen him quite a few times since then.

You have to understand, composers are a different breed
of people -- Brian has been described as
"child-like"....hells bells....I don't know of a single
great composer who isn't "child-like".....they think
differently that's all.

Brian still has his "put-on" humor intact (probably
drove the newspeople nuts if he didn't like them and
he'd tell them anything to get rid of them haha, which
no, he doesn't do that that much anymore).

Does he still have problems?  Well, probably but he's a
great guy, just older, and wiser (not being "used" like
he once was which also destroys your soul btw, it's a
very depressive thing to be "used" by people, and to see
your family die like Brian did....) and doing great for
all he's accomplished lately, it's tough being on the
road, traveling, tiring I'll tell you.  And he's not a
"great entertainer" no, he doesn't have to be, producers
rarely are entertainers....and he's got a good life now,
so that part is good.

About his speech, probably an aftermath of taking all
those drugs, prescription drugs were the worst
probably....and of course his life dramatically changed
in the 70s, and instead of getting some real good
counseling help early-on, he languished....(even Chuck
Britz would try to help Brian - he cared for him so much)
and think the rest of us were busy in our own lives (I
know I was, still raising my kids, doing seminars,
dealing my own book publishing co. "Gwyn Publishing",
and even going on the road playing with the great jazz
pianist, Hampton Hawes, etc.) that we all sort of lost
touch with Brian....he needed help and I feel that he
didn't get proper help, but didn't know that at that
time, this is upon reflection....we're all in his corner
for sure.

Brian Wilson, like Phil Spector, has a fascinating
life....his unschooled talent was remarkable and he
accomplished so much in a short time (and even later),
it's a miracle he's still with us and doing well.  He
still has to take medicines to counter what was done to
him in the past from what I understand, and I think this
influences him to some degree, plus the damages to his
ear when he was a child (and why his speech must slur
sometimes)....he was perfectly the same guy with me when
I've been around him....full of fun, and we've had
conversations lasting for 2 hours about different things....

He's OK believe me, maybe not how others would like him
to be, but he's the same Brian to me, just older and
been through the mill there, without people he could
count on, that's a tough thing, but he knows he has good
friends now, and they count with him and Melinda, she's
a good person, good for Brian, and very helpful to him,
and no, it's still Brian's decisions to do this or that,
they make a good family with their 2 little girls.   

Carol Kaye
http://www.carolkaye.com/


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Message: 10
   Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 17:57:37 +0100
   From: "Phil Chapman" 
Subject: Oldham told 'em

Joseph:

>......I don't think anyone
>takes any of Stones manager Oldham's "production"
>credits very seriously....

Why not? - He was in charge, and, in his own words, 
"..allowed it to happen". In much the same way that
Phil 'produced' "Unchained Melody" and "Home Of The
Brave".

Certainly it was ALO who played The Supremes' "My World
Is Empty Without You" to Mick & Keith in order to
'influence' the writing of their next hit "Paint It
Black".


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Message: 11
   Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 23:18:16 EDT
   From: Will George 
Subject: Josie & the Pussycats

In a message dated 10/7/01 6:37:13 PM, spectropop writes:

> STOP, LOOK AND LISTEN, the new Josie and The Pussycats
> compilation just released by Rhino Handmade Records in
> the US.

How does this collection compare/differ from the
collection released on CD a while back?

  - Will


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Message: 12
   Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 17:09:08 +0000
   From: "Don Charles" 
Subject: Re: Josie & the Pussycats

In a message dated 10/7/01 6:37:13 PM, spectropop writes:

>How does this collection compare/differ from the
>collection released on CD a while back?

That earlier CD was probably a bootleg.  This one is
legit.  What's more, the packaging on this release is
far more elaborate . . . there are numerous alternate
takes of album and single tracks . . . there are three
previously unreleased songs from the TV show featuring
Cheryl Ladd on lead vocals . . . and this release
excludes the theme song from "Josie and The Pussycats
in Outer Space" because it was actually NOT sung by the
group!  By 1971, they had broken up.  The music for the
second series was done by session singers with Jimmie
Haskell producing.

Don Charles


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Message: 13
   Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 10:27:30 +0100
   From: "Keith Beach" 
Subject: RE: Oldham told 'em

I have to report that neither Mick Patrick or myself had
any involvement with Andrew Loog Oldham and 'Paint it
Black'...we were at Nursery School!

Keith Beach
PS I know I was 'aged' in my last posting, clever dicks!

> "Certainly it was ALO who played The Supremes' "My World
> Is Empty Without You" to Mick & Keith in order to
> 'influence' the writing of their next hit "Paint It
> Black"."


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Message: 14
   Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 13:45:15 -0700 (PDT)
   From: Andrew Hickey 
Subject: Mojo Workin'

> This magazine also contains a good looking 5 page Bob
> Stanley article about Phil Spector 45s.  So if you're
> the kind of person who has to have everything ever
> written about Phil Spector, you need this issue of
> Mojo Collections.

The article isn't strictly about Spector - it also
covers Spector soundalike tracks - like I Wonder by
The Butterflys just as the first example I see on the
page. The article's a top 50 Wall Of Sound singles
thing. The entire issue of MOJO Collections is
excellent, and also contains a (not very good) free CD
(not much of interest to list members on the CD).

Definitely worth buying.

One thing, in the article, Bob Stanley says Bill
Medley sings 'I would crawl for you girl/I would
crawl, every day' in Just Once in My Life. I've always
heard this as 'I'd work hard for you girl'. Which of
us is deaf?


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Message: 15
   Date: Mon, 08 Oct 01 14:07:13 +0200
   From: Frank 
Subject: Re: Mojo Collections

>This magazine also contains a good looking 5 page Bob
>Stanley article about Phil Spector 45s.  So if you're the
>kind of person who has to have everything ever written
>about Phil Spector, you need this issue of Mojo
>Collections.

Mick,
Any idea how I could get my hands on a copy ? I'm in Paris, 
France.

Thanks


Frank


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Message: 16
   Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 10:59:35 -0000
   From: Mike W 
Subject: Re: Oldham told 'em

Dear Phil,

Oldham's influence in the overall British Invasion music
ouvre, is very much underestimated...just as Phil
Spector's is, here in the United States. I feel this is
mainly due to their "eccentric behavior" and large
ego's...it's held against them, and therefore no one
believes anything they say or do...and they are just not
well liked by the music media.

I don't know if you've read Oldham's autobiography yet,
but if you haven't, you are missing one of the best books
on rock music that has been written. It's a great
"insider" story, that shatters the myth that there it's
the music that's important, NOT the packaging that we
surrender to, when we popularize a particular music
"Artist". It's a controversial theory...but Oldham
convinces the reader of it.

"Phil Chapman" wrote:

> >......I don't think anyone
> >takes any of Stones manager Oldham's "production"
> >credits very seriously....
> 
> Why not? - He was in charge, and, in his own words, 
> "..allowed it to happen". In much the same way that
> Phil 'produced' "Unchained Melody" and "Home Of The
> Brave".
> 
> Certainly it was ALO who played The Supremes' "My World
> Is Empty Without You" to Mick & Keith in order to
> 'influence' the writing of their next hit "Paint It
> Black".


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Message: 17
   Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 20:22:19 +0900
   From: LePageWeb 
Subject: Re: Oldham told 'em

"Phil Chapman" wrote

> Certainly it was ALO who played The Supremes' "My World
> Is Empty Without You" to Mick & Keith in order to
> 'influence' the writing of their next hit "Paint It
> Black".

"My world is empty without..."
"I see a red door and I..."

LOL!!! Good one, Phil!

Jamie "What the heck is 'zoom bass' anyway?" LePage


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Message: 18
   Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 20:43:20 +0100 (BST)
   From: Mick Patrick 
Subject: FANITA'S DREAMERS

Greetings,

I'm hoping someone out there in Spectropopland can help
me on an urgent search for DREAMERS material. My pals
at Ace Records are readying for release a CD by that
group. What they've asked me for are some label scans
of Dreamers 45s. Easier said than done! Can anyone help?
The Dreamers, sometimes billed as Richard Berry & the
Dreamers, released singles on the Flair, RPM and Flip
labels. Fanita & her girls also recorded for Class as
the Rollettes. (If you've read John Clemente's book
you'll know all this already). Thanks in advance.

MICK PATRICK

PS: A newly-released CD arrived in the mail this
morning containing a rare Jeff Barry/Artie Resnick
composition I had not heard previously - "THE PALM OF
YOUR HAND" by Chuck Wright originally released on Ember
1091 in 1963. JB produced it too. What's the chance of
me ever owning the original 45? Now it's possible to
just stroll into a shop and buy it.


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