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There are 8 messages in this issue of Spectropop.

Topics in this Digest Number 250:

      1. Re: King demos
           From: Mike C 
      2. The Slide
           From: "Phil Chapman"
      3. Bernadettes
           From: "Ian Chapman" 
      4. Babies on Dunhill
           From: Mark Topaz 
      5. Re: GOIN' BACK: THE SONGS OF GOFFIN & KING
           From: Mike C 
      6. Actionettes present Sophisticated Boom! Boom!
           From: "Delia" 
      7. BERNADETTES
           From: Mick Patrick 
      8. Needles and Pinza
           From: LePageWeb 


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Message: 1
   Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 23:27:53 -0000
   From: Mike C 
Subject: Re: King demos

"Ken Levine" wrote:
> How does one get Carole King demos?
> 
> Ken

On the A & E program "The Teens Who..." there is a
picture of a stack of these precious demos and some
"mysterious" hand flips through them.  Unfortunatly it
wasn't mine.  The interesting thing here was the labels
were from Dick James Publishing, a British publishing
house.  Here in America the ones that I have seen are
with a generic "Screen Gems" label. Surely the earlier
ones were with an Aldon label.  They are the size and
have the feel of an old 78, play at 45 rpm's.  There is
only one song on one side.  No artist or performer is
credited.  Just the song title. If you are lucky enough
to have one, they were presented with a lead sheet.  The
lead sheet of course had the song title and the writers
and the melody line on the treble staff with the words.
No written bass line.  Learn that yourself.  ; )

Recently there was one up for bid at e-bay and the
starting price was $1,000.oo.  I didn't follow that one
through, so I was unaware if someone purchased it at the
buy now price of 2,000. or if it was won.  If I remember
correctly, the song was a Bobby Vee recorded G/K tune,
perhaps "Walking With My Angel" or one of those.  I do
remember this: that the song was on "Right Girl-Brill
Building Legends" a German released cd containing many
actual demonstration records as recorded by Carole King.
This cd and the two others that are out there on Barry
Mann and Jeff Barry are a MUST for Brill Building fans.
Check out Spectropop pages right here.  The fine people
here show picures of 'em and list the songs?  I think so.

[ http://www.spectropop.com/hbrill.html
]


I have posted here before to find out more about the
Carole King Right Girl cd and I do believe it was Jamie
(thanks) who commented back to me and said how great it
was.... but that nobody knew or was telling about its
origin.  Some German cyber pals could come up with
nothing about the Brill Tone Record Label for me, either.
Still a mystery.  I have often thought that it was a
Snuff Garrett or a producer/arranger of his day that
might possibly have been collecting these things through
the years and finally let them go onto cd.  Dusty
Springfield has been quoted as to have collected Carole
King's demos and that nobody, nobody could beat the
demos.  LOL, I would love to have been able to look
under Dusty's bed right right along side Goldie for a
demo of "Goin' Back".  Perhaps Carole King's father, Sid
Klein, was privy.  I hear tell that his collection was
the one who supplied the "Teens WHo" with most of that
taped footage of Goffin and King.

Recently two unearthed Goffin and King songs appeared on
the soundtrack to "Crazy In Alabama".  One recorded by
Bertell Dache (aka Tony Orlando) entitled "Little Miss
Happiness" and the other by Carole herself, entitled
"Like Little Children".  These 2 songs in the liner
notes of the cd were credited to thanks to Carole K. and
Gerry G.  So, it appears that the songwriters themselves
have saved some of these demos through the years and are
finally finding a place to let them sneak out.  Sure
wish there were more.

Mike C.


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Message: 2
   Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 14:17:40 +0100
   From: "Phil Chapman" 
Subject: The Slide

Mick:

>maybe some Spectropopper can tell us all if 
<"THE SLIDE" by BUNNY SHIVEL (Capitol 5765, 1966) 
>is the Goffin/King song or not

That found its way to the UK:
"You'll Never Find A Love Like Mine"/"The Slide"
Capitol CL 15487
Both sides written by Ray Pennington


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Message: 3
   Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 23:51:11 +0100
   From: "Ian Chapman"
Subject: Bernadettes

Mick:-

> YES, it's all coming back to me. It WAS
> Bernadette Carroll, not Bernadette Castro, who recorded
> "Tell Him For Me". Our pal Malcolm Baumgart, somewhere
> deep in the festering pit of vinyl he calls his home, has
> an acetate by Miss Carroll. On one side is her version of
> "Hold Back The Light Of Dawn" (Gasp. Yes, THAT song!) and
> "Tell Him For Me" is on the reverse.

Thanks Mick, I knew I'd heard it by Bernadette Carroll
somewhere along the line - and pretty good too as I
recall.  Obviously, neither of us were aware of the
BERNADETTE CASTRO version.  Assuming it's the same song,
it'd be interesting to compare the two.

Ian


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Message: 4
   Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 05:07:17 -0000
   From: Mark Topaz 
Subject: Babies on Dunhill

       I have 2 Babies singles on Dunhill, both in the
Supremes-girl group kind of mold. I have a listing for a
third single, Dunhill 4148 - Party Time. Does anyone
know if this single was ever released and if it exists.


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Message: 5
   Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 22:26:37 -0000
   From: Mike C 
Subject: Re: GOIN' BACK: THE SONGS OF GOFFIN & KING

"Brand New World" is on Sequel's "Got A Good Thing
Going-25 R & B Radio Hits of the 60's" (NEM CD 785). 
It's really a great song, with its bah-bah-bah background
vocals and soft syncopated rthyms. A personal favorite.

And yes, the Bobby Vee CD you mention is a great one.
Chocked full of gems by all the NY songwriters. 

Can't wait to hear if there is a Bunny Shivel/Goffin-King
connection.  I hope someone else here does the sli-i-i-de.
So many suprises!  Been clicking over at Bim-Bam, filling
in those Goffin and King spaces, upon your recommendation,
MP.  Thank you!

Mike C.


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Message: 6
   Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 16:07:56 +0100
   From: "Delia" 
Subject: Actionettes present Sophisticated Boom! Boom!

Hi,

I've been lurking on the Spectropop list for a
while......just thought i'd tell you about my all girl
amateur dance troupe that dances exclusively to sixties
girl groups/female singers...

we have our own club night starting on the 6th of October
in London, UK details as below...
(scroll for info...)
on 27th october we're doing a Halloween themed special.
Does anybody have any bright ideas for 'scary' themed
songs by sixties girl groups/female singers?
All info gratefully received!
Thank you
Delia

Sophisticated Boom! Boom!
Upstairs At The Garage,
Highbury Corner
London

Saturday 6th October 9.30pm-2am
A Nancy Sinatra Special!
GBP 4 or GBP 3 if dressed Nancy or Lee style

sixteen member all girl dance troupe The Actionettes
present a night of fabulous music with special kitsch
go-go dances to the music of Nancy Sinatra and special
guests performing the songs of Nancy! as Nancy.

Play list will consist of retro styled  soul, r'n'b,
punk-garage, rock 'n' roll, pop and more with the liked
of Dusty Springfield, Bo Diddley, Martha Reeves And The
Vandellas, Undertones, Sonics, The Gossip, MAke up, The
Specials, Blondie, Swamp Rats, Irma Thomas, Shangri Las,
Le Tigre, The Cramps and many more.


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Message: 7
   Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 08:16:27 +0100 (BST)
   From: Mick Patrick 
Subject: BERNADETTES

Greetings,

Ian Chapman wrote:

> I knew I'd heard "TELL HIM FOR ME" by Bernadette Carroll
> somewhere along the line.....Obviously, neither of us
> were aware of the BERNADETTE CASTRO version. Assuming
> it's the same song.....

Ian, I'm almost certain the song Ms Carroll recorded was
composed by Ernie Maresca. But that would mean the two
Bernadette Cs recorded two different songs of the same
title. Stranger things have happened, I suppose.

Did anyone ever confirm my theory that Bernadette Carroll
and Nancy Baron are the same person? I hope John
Clemente's reading this.....

Oh, well. Off to work.

MICK PATRICK


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Message: 8
   Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 18:56:06 +0900
   From: LePageWeb 
Subject: Needles and Pinza

Hans said he thought he heard Steve Marriot on Ton
Borsboom's Needles & Pins - I thought so too. If it ain't
Steve, it's someone that does a great imitation of him!
I'm surprised the answer hasn't been Immediate...

(just guessing)


Jamie



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