________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ There are 8 messages in this issue of Spectropop. Topics in this Digest Number 250: 1. Re: King demos From: Mike C 2. The Slide From: "Phil Chapman" 3. Bernadettes From: "Ian Chapman" 4. Babies on Dunhill From: Mark Topaz 5. Re: GOIN' BACK: THE SONGS OF GOFFIN & KING From: Mike C 6. Actionettes present Sophisticated Boom! Boom! From: "Delia" 7. BERNADETTES From: Mick Patrick 8. Needles and Pinza From: LePageWeb ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 23:27:53 -0000 From: Mike C Subject: Re: King demos "Ken Levine" wrote: > How does one get Carole King demos? > > Ken On the A & E program "The Teens Who..." there is a picture of a stack of these precious demos and some "mysterious" hand flips through them. Unfortunatly it wasn't mine. The interesting thing here was the labels were from Dick James Publishing, a British publishing house. Here in America the ones that I have seen are with a generic "Screen Gems" label. Surely the earlier ones were with an Aldon label. They are the size and have the feel of an old 78, play at 45 rpm's. There is only one song on one side. No artist or performer is credited. Just the song title. If you are lucky enough to have one, they were presented with a lead sheet. The lead sheet of course had the song title and the writers and the melody line on the treble staff with the words. No written bass line. Learn that yourself. ; ) Recently there was one up for bid at e-bay and the starting price was $1,000.oo. I didn't follow that one through, so I was unaware if someone purchased it at the buy now price of 2,000. or if it was won. If I remember correctly, the song was a Bobby Vee recorded G/K tune, perhaps "Walking With My Angel" or one of those. I do remember this: that the song was on "Right Girl-Brill Building Legends" a German released cd containing many actual demonstration records as recorded by Carole King. This cd and the two others that are out there on Barry Mann and Jeff Barry are a MUST for Brill Building fans. Check out Spectropop pages right here. The fine people here show picures of 'em and list the songs? I think so. [ http://www.spectropop.com/hbrill.html ] I have posted here before to find out more about the Carole King Right Girl cd and I do believe it was Jamie (thanks) who commented back to me and said how great it was.... but that nobody knew or was telling about its origin. Some German cyber pals could come up with nothing about the Brill Tone Record Label for me, either. Still a mystery. I have often thought that it was a Snuff Garrett or a producer/arranger of his day that might possibly have been collecting these things through the years and finally let them go onto cd. Dusty Springfield has been quoted as to have collected Carole King's demos and that nobody, nobody could beat the demos. LOL, I would love to have been able to look under Dusty's bed right right along side Goldie for a demo of "Goin' Back". Perhaps Carole King's father, Sid Klein, was privy. I hear tell that his collection was the one who supplied the "Teens WHo" with most of that taped footage of Goffin and King. Recently two unearthed Goffin and King songs appeared on the soundtrack to "Crazy In Alabama". One recorded by Bertell Dache (aka Tony Orlando) entitled "Little Miss Happiness" and the other by Carole herself, entitled "Like Little Children". These 2 songs in the liner notes of the cd were credited to thanks to Carole K. and Gerry G. So, it appears that the songwriters themselves have saved some of these demos through the years and are finally finding a place to let them sneak out. Sure wish there were more. Mike C. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 14:17:40 +0100 From: "Phil Chapman" Subject: The Slide Mick: >maybe some Spectropopper can tell us all if <"THE SLIDE" by BUNNY SHIVEL (Capitol 5765, 1966) >is the Goffin/King song or not That found its way to the UK: "You'll Never Find A Love Like Mine"/"The Slide" Capitol CL 15487 Both sides written by Ray Pennington --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 3 Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 23:51:11 +0100 From: "Ian Chapman" Subject: Bernadettes Mick:- > YES, it's all coming back to me. It WAS > Bernadette Carroll, not Bernadette Castro, who recorded > "Tell Him For Me". Our pal Malcolm Baumgart, somewhere > deep in the festering pit of vinyl he calls his home, has > an acetate by Miss Carroll. On one side is her version of > "Hold Back The Light Of Dawn" (Gasp. Yes, THAT song!) and > "Tell Him For Me" is on the reverse. Thanks Mick, I knew I'd heard it by Bernadette Carroll somewhere along the line - and pretty good too as I recall. Obviously, neither of us were aware of the BERNADETTE CASTRO version. Assuming it's the same song, it'd be interesting to compare the two. Ian --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 4 Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 05:07:17 -0000 From: Mark Topaz Subject: Babies on Dunhill I have 2 Babies singles on Dunhill, both in the Supremes-girl group kind of mold. I have a listing for a third single, Dunhill 4148 - Party Time. Does anyone know if this single was ever released and if it exists. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 5 Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 22:26:37 -0000 From: Mike C Subject: Re: GOIN' BACK: THE SONGS OF GOFFIN & KING "Brand New World" is on Sequel's "Got A Good Thing Going-25 R & B Radio Hits of the 60's" (NEM CD 785). It's really a great song, with its bah-bah-bah background vocals and soft syncopated rthyms. A personal favorite. And yes, the Bobby Vee CD you mention is a great one. Chocked full of gems by all the NY songwriters. Can't wait to hear if there is a Bunny Shivel/Goffin-King connection. I hope someone else here does the sli-i-i-de. So many suprises! Been clicking over at Bim-Bam, filling in those Goffin and King spaces, upon your recommendation, MP. Thank you! Mike C. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 6 Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 16:07:56 +0100 From: "Delia" Subject: Actionettes present Sophisticated Boom! Boom! Hi, I've been lurking on the Spectropop list for a while......just thought i'd tell you about my all girl amateur dance troupe that dances exclusively to sixties girl groups/female singers... we have our own club night starting on the 6th of October in London, UK details as below... (scroll for info...) on 27th october we're doing a Halloween themed special. Does anybody have any bright ideas for 'scary' themed songs by sixties girl groups/female singers? All info gratefully received! Thank you Delia Sophisticated Boom! Boom! Upstairs At The Garage, Highbury Corner London Saturday 6th October 9.30pm-2am A Nancy Sinatra Special! GBP 4 or GBP 3 if dressed Nancy or Lee style sixteen member all girl dance troupe The Actionettes present a night of fabulous music with special kitsch go-go dances to the music of Nancy Sinatra and special guests performing the songs of Nancy! as Nancy. Play list will consist of retro styled soul, r'n'b, punk-garage, rock 'n' roll, pop and more with the liked of Dusty Springfield, Bo Diddley, Martha Reeves And The Vandellas, Undertones, Sonics, The Gossip, MAke up, The Specials, Blondie, Swamp Rats, Irma Thomas, Shangri Las, Le Tigre, The Cramps and many more. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 7 Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 08:16:27 +0100 (BST) From: Mick Patrick Subject: BERNADETTES Greetings, Ian Chapman wrote: > I knew I'd heard "TELL HIM FOR ME" by Bernadette Carroll > somewhere along the line.....Obviously, neither of us > were aware of the BERNADETTE CASTRO version. Assuming > it's the same song..... Ian, I'm almost certain the song Ms Carroll recorded was composed by Ernie Maresca. But that would mean the two Bernadette Cs recorded two different songs of the same title. Stranger things have happened, I suppose. Did anyone ever confirm my theory that Bernadette Carroll and Nancy Baron are the same person? I hope John Clemente's reading this..... Oh, well. Off to work. MICK PATRICK --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 8 Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 18:56:06 +0900 From: LePageWeb Subject: Needles and Pinza Hans said he thought he heard Steve Marriot on Ton Borsboom's Needles & Pins - I thought so too. If it ain't Steve, it's someone that does a great imitation of him! I'm surprised the answer hasn't been Immediate... (just guessing) Jamie --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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