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Spectropop - Digest Number 245

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There are 6 messages in this issue of Spectropop.

Topics in this Digest Number 245:

      1. Re: RCA in Hollywood
           From: Carol Kaye
      2. Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah
           From: "John Hesterman"
      3. Re: Brill Bill
           From: James Botticelli 
      4. Ann-Margret
           From: Will George 
           From: Mike C 
      6. Goin' Back With Goffin and King
           From: Mike C 


Message: 1
   Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 11:29:19 -0700
   From: Carol Kaye
Subject: Re: RCA in Hollywood

> The building Carol is referring to are the Old RCA
> studios located at 155 East 24th st here in Manhattan.

No, no, it's the old 1-story building on the north-east
side of Sunset and Vine Sts. in Hollywood, a very
thriving recording studio for many years.  Torn down in
the 60s.

Carol Kaye 

btw, just rec'd a great photo from the head engineer in
Universal, with the "new skyline of NYC rebuilt".....5
tall skyscrapers, with the middle-finger skyscraper
standing really HIGH.  Hope everyone here is OK there.

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Message: 2
   Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 06:26:55 -0700
   From: "John Hesterman" 
Subject: Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah

There is also an interesting version of
Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah on the Dave Clark Five's "Return" LP
(their second American release on Epic Records). It
wasn't released as a single, but was featured during
performances on both the Hullabaloo and Shindig
television programs during 1965. I have a video tape of
the Hullabaloo performance. It's rather bluesy, with a
GREAT vocal by Mike Smith.

Definitely worth a listen!


John H.

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Message: 3
   Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 14:34:06 EDT
   From: James Botticelli 
Subject: Re: Brill Bill

In a message dated 9/14/01 7:29:14 AM, spectropop writes:

> in MIDTOWN Manhattan, well north of the World
> Trade Center.

1619 Broadway...smack in Midtown

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Message: 4
   Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 03:14:14 EDT
   From: Will George
Subject: Ann-Margret

Ann-Margret has received the Bear Family box treatment,
which I have at home. I'll check the credits next week
and post them. Just don't let me forget, Peter!

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Message: 5
   Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 21:48:27 -0000
   From: Mike C 

> D C Hampton wrote:
> >...the most exquisite CD collection I've heard
> > It was released by UK Sequel a couple of years ago. I
> > recently heard someone badmouth this compilation
> > because it doesn't contain any original versions.

> >  And Mick Patrick wrote:

> It was me that badmouthed the "Goin' Back" CD to Mr
> Hampton. And guess what? It was me that compiled it, too!
> It was not really my intention to slag the compilation
> off. I merely wanted to inform DC that Sequel's "Songs Of"
> series, of which the Goffin/King volume is part, were
> intended as tongue-in-cheek collections of cover versions.
> That is, they were compiled with a sense of irony. 

Tongue In Cheek?  hmmmmmm. . . very interesting.  Thanks
Mick Patrick for a great tongue-in-cheek compilation then.
Great comp!  Great thanks!

As a Goffin and King collector, "The Songs Of Goffin and
King...goin' back" is a real treat.  Not only for the
slightly different takes on some of this material, but in
some cases a completely different interpretation of it. 
Like the soul and power of Glo M.'s version over The
Paris Sisters "He Knows I Love Him Too Much".  The piano
alone sells it. It is fabulous! (If we want a good laugh ,
how `bout comparing The Paris Sister's recording of G/K's
"Golden Days" to Sally Field's.)  And Barley-Bree's
sublime version of "Sometime In The Morning".   Unlike
many covers of Goffin/King songs, this one shows a true
lineage of what the demo surely must sound like and to
top it off, these fellows can sing!  Once again, the
British musicians here have shown the exquisite beauty of
the music itself, pushing the piano to a far greater
position of importance than say the original Monkees
version, which King herself had a hand in producing.  The
De Laine Sisters singing It Might As Well Rain over
Carole King?  Well?.I even like Australian gal Noeleen
Batley's version, one that shows the fragility of the
piano and the strings against each other but still held
together by King's glorious serpentine melody.  And to
confess, perhaps I've heard Carole's version one too many
times making the De Laine's version sound just cheeky.
And I'll add just a pinch between the cheek and gums of
Bobby Vee too.

About the Liner notes:  What fun! Gobs of great info with
several clues for this G/K collector to hunt down---such
as-- a version of "Stage Door" by Peter James (???)  I do,
however, catch one little mistake.  Yes, Steve Lawrence
did record "Don't Be Afraid Little Darling" but it is a
Mann and Weil composition, not a Goffin and King one. 
The liner notes here is not the first time I'm seeing
this error.  I also have seen "Magic Town" as credited to
G and K, also "I Could Have Loved You So Well" by Ray
Peterson, produced by Spector, but written by Barry Mann
and Gerry Goffin.  Oh well...all are such great songs...

Please Mick and friends, compile another.  I'll take a
compilation of "tongue and cheek" cover versions over the
originals any day of the week.

Mike C.

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Message: 6
   Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 23:01:08 -0000
   From: Mike C 
Subject: Goin' Back With Goffin and King

A great joy for me is finding King and Goffin material
that I didn't know existed.   Perhaps someone here can
help give me some additional information on a couple of
tunes that are "new" to me:

"Carole" sung by Billy Scott.  Credited to Goffin and
King.  Recorded on Everest Records.   The demo of this
can be heard on The Right Girl/Brill Building Legends cd
as sung by Goffin but this B. Scott recorded version is
not published by Aldon, so it's before  G & K's days with
Donnie baby.  I'm beginning to wonder just what was the
first recorded Goffin and King song.  Any background on
Billy Scott? 

On "Dream Girls" cd (CC #1492) is a song by Diane Emond
entitled "The Beginning of The End". I cannot confirm
this as being a Goffin and King song anywhere.  But....
it sure sounds like one.   And I know they have written a
song by this title.  Does any one own the original record
and can confirm this as Goffin and King?

"He Who Laughs Last" by Freda Payne.  A tune written by
Carole King and Jack Keller.  What a find.  A great tune.
Is this the same gal who years later sang "Bring The Boys
Home"?  Are there any other versions of this song?
Perhaps tongue and cheek ones?

Here at Spectropop's Carole & Gerry Song Page "Blues For
A Young Girl Gone" is listed as having been recorded by
The Strawberry Alarm Clock.  Musically this song seems
very Carole-like, but the title is so un-Goffin.  Is the
for real?


Mike C.

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