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Spectropop - Digest Number 240

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                         Stereo has Come of Age

There are 9 messages in this issue of Spectropop.

Topics in this Digest Number 240:

      1. Girls Will Be Girls
           From: Jimmy Crescitelli
      2. Joe Meek - The Big Hurt
           From: LePageWeb 
      3. RE: Does anybody know The Phantom?
           From: "ANTONIO" 
      4. Southern Oregon recordings
           From: "Randy M. Kosht" 
      5. The "A&M SOUND"
           From: Warren Cosford
           From: mick patrick
      7. Re: Studio Musicians' Credits book
           From: Carol Kaye 
      8. Breakfast w/ the Beatles - 97.1 KLSX - 09 -2- 01
           From: "Chris Carter" 
      9. The Liquid Room-9/2/01
           From: "David Ponak" 


Message: 1
   Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 12:14:58 EDT
   From: Jimmy Crescitelli
Subject: Girls Will Be Girls

okay, so I'm a little slow in the acquisition arena, 
but I just got Westside's "Girls Will Be Girls" Volume 
I... what fun! A few standouts after repeated listenings:

Toni Wine, "A Boy Like You." I think it's the CD's primo 
cut...what excellence! I love her tough-girl voice, and 
those backing singers are excellent... anyone know who;

Barry Sisters, "I Must Be Dreaming." The liner notes cracked 
me up-- "This pair of raven-haired borscht belt yentas... " 
(But too young to be yentas,nu?) This is a tuneful little number; 
very catchy, and their East Flatbush accents come through 
loud and clear.

Parlettes, "Because We're Very Young." A perennial fave in 
my house. Every wrong note of this is fab. 

Chic-Lets, "I Want You to Be My Boyfriend." Stormer!

Bernadette Castro, "A Girl In Love Forgives." Has achieved 
classic status. 

Renee St. Clair, "My Hero." Ethel Mae Potter, we never
 forgot her! [An obscure reference many of you may hopefully
 catch.] What a great voice! 
Sounds very Reparata... but we'll leave that to history.

Emeralds, "Dancing Alone" Reminds me of "Dancing the Strand" by... ? 
I love these bad, draggy, off-keyed, heartbreaking garage 
recordings. Sigh. 

Cinderellas, "Good Good Lovin' " Coda... beautiful fade out... 

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Message: 2
   Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 09:44:06 +0900
   From: LePageWeb 
Subject: Joe Meek - The Big Hurt

Intriguing subject line. Separate subjects, though.
Oh well, it was interesting to think about if only for 
a second...

First, BIG thanks to Nick Archer for the heads up on the
Joe Meek special last week. What a delight! I must have
listened to the two hour program three or four times
over the weekend. The original stereo mixes of I Hear a
New World were very enlightening, and of course, the
further examples of Joe Meek's songwriting demos were
mind boggling. Ah, Joe Meek is godhead! If you aren't
convinced, go listen to Wishing Well by the Millionaires.
Case Closed!


In reply to Will, who asked about the background on "The
Big Hurt", indeed, there was a long discussion on this
recording a few years ago - February 1999 to be exact.
Aside from my usual two cents worth of speculation thrown
in, the illustrious contributors to this thread were Alec
Palao, Carol Kaye, Doc Rock and Paul Urbahns - a
fascinating story about an equally fascinating recording.
I learned a lot about this record from their posts. You
too can check out the entire thread in Spectropop V#0231
through Spectropop V#0235.

Start here:


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Message: 3
   Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 18:48:49 +0200
   From: "ANTONIO" 
Subject: RE: Does anybody know The Phantom?

> Does anybody remember a record from circa '64 that was
> played in the Milwaukee area?  The song was "Love Me!"
> by the Phantom. 

The song appeared in several compilations ("Rockabilly
Psychosis and the Garage Disease" on Ace Records, and
the "Born Bad" series, for instance), since the Cramps
covered it. Did he record any more songs? I've never
heard any.


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Message: 4
   Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 19:44:21 -0700
   From: "Randy M. Kosht"
Subject: Southern Oregon recordings

Hi; are there any Spectropoppers in the Medford, Oregon
area (or formerly from there?)  If so, I would be
interested in tracking down some of the local records
>from the mid-'60s, such as "Lazy Acres Motel," (it got a
lot of KBOY play in 1964), "She's a Deceiver" by Scott
and Pat Campbell on the Plaid label, and "I'm Going Out
of My Mind," by KBOY DJ Gary Bryant.  Also, any current
news or whereabouts of the personalities from KBOY, KYJC,
and KMED would be appreciated.

Best regards,
Randy Kosht (A&Mania)
Rogue Valley resident, 1956-1969

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Message: 5
   Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 08:17:44 -0400
   From: Warren Cosford 
Subject: The "A&M SOUND"

In the early '80s I was involved in the production of
a 24 hour documentary for radio called The Producers.  
It was syndicated throughout Canada.  Each hour (and 
in the case of Phil Spector and Motown...two hours)
 was devoted to the music various record producers helped 
to create.....A&M among them.

Please contact me if you'd like to know more about this.

Warren Cosford

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Message: 6
   Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 19:57:52 +0100 (BST)
   From: mick patrick 


I just got back from a holiday armed with a new
keyboard and thought I'd christen it by keeping 
the GOLDIE & THE GINGERBREADS thread alive a little 
longer. I've been a fan of the group ever since I saw 
them on READY, STEADY, GO! about a hundred years ago. 
Here's a little something I wrote about them a while back:

Genya "Goldie" Zelkowitz and her group the Gingerbreads 
were the toast of Park Avenue and Greenwich Village back 
in 1964. Garbed in head-to-toe gold they thrilled the 
socialite night owls and boho hipsters of New York with 
their live renditions of Motown hits. They looked foxy, 
sounded great and, of course, had an added advantage over 
the other girl-groups of the day - they played their own 

Goldie had previously recorded as vocalist with Richard 
Perry`s group the Escorts. She then teamed up with drummer 
Ginger Panebianco, organist Margo Crocitto and a couple of 
other gals to form Goldie & the Gingerbreads, immediately 
landing a one single deal with Florence Greenberg`s small 
Spokane label.

Goldie, Ginger, Margo and new girl Carol MacDonald soon 
found themselves domiciled in swinging London where, with 
a little production help from their pals the Animals, they 
released "Can`t You Hear My Heartbeat" for the Decca label. 
The girls then hit Hamburg in Germany for a spell while 
awaiting British work permits. In their homeland, sadly, 
a hastily issued, and massively successful, rival version 
by Herman`s Hermits prevented the Gingerbreads` original 
of "Hearbeat" from even being released by their American 
outlet Atco. A few singles later the group disbanded.

A solo Goldie waxed momentarily for British Fontana and 
Andrew Loog Oldham`s Immediate logo before returning to 
the States to front jazz-rock band Ten Wheel Drive. Ginger 
and guitarist Carol turned up again in the `70s as members 
of the all-female Isis - the Sapphic Blood, Sweat & Tears, 
according to Rolling Stone magazine. The cover of the group`s 
Shadow Morton-produced album pictured all eight members 
totally naked except for a coat of silver paint. Margo 
entered the world of rock management and presently handles 
Bo Diddley. Goldie went on to release a number of acclaimed 
solo albums, both as Genya Ravan (pronounced like the black 
bird) and Goldie Zelkowitz, before making a name for herself 
in the 1980s as producer for the likes of the Dead Boys, 
Ronnie Spector and Tiny Tim.

Those of you who own the CD "Where The Girls Are" Volume 
2 (Ace CDCHD 711) will have read all of this before.


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Message: 7
   Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 11:04:59 -0700
   From: Carol Kaye
Subject: Re: Studio Musicians' Credits book

>If musician credits for these albums exist I'd 
>love to see them.What is the book you were referring
>to Carol?

John, I'm sure that you'll find credits in this book 
which has been meticulously researched for over 10 
years now....Russ Wapensky is the government man who 
has spent a good deal of his life researching our credits 
in the Musicians Union contracts of LA (and some in NYC too,
altho' according to many, the contracts there were 
tossed many many years ago, nothing in other locals 
either...LA was the only Local to keep the contracts
 in a vault but did let some other "researchers" in
and are now missing some contracts as a result of 
that error -- only Russ is trusted to help our Local 
find any contracts and locate some data to help us with 
re-use payments etc. and for his book.

He was just out here in LA on one of his research 
trips and assured us that he is very close now for
 print time.....he's still interviewing our group 
of studio musicians, the ones he's missed in the past, 
and still working on finding some missing contracts/data
also.  His book covers the studio musicians credits for 
top 20 hits 1945 through 1969 and it has the stamp of 
accuracy on it.
He leaves no stone unturned.

Best, Carol Kaye

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Message: 8
   Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 15:21:26 -0700
   From: "Chris Carter" 
Subject: Breakfast w/ the Beatles - 97.1 KLSX - 09 -2- 01

Breakfast with the Beatles Playlist/9-2-01
97.1 KLSX - FM
Sunday's 8 ~ 12 Noon
Host ~ Chris Carter

Yeah,Yeah, and Yeah ! A million thanks to all of you who
helped me get this great gig as host of Breakfast with
the Beatles. I sincerely appreciate all the  votes,
phone calls and letters and promise to do my best in
keeping the show fresh and exciting (and mainly MONO)
each and every week...It's gonna be fun!

Good Day Sunshine/REVOLVER Jun. 8-9 '66 take 1/MONO
I'm Happy Just To Dance With You/A HARD DAY'S NIGHT Mar.
1 '64 take 4/MONO
>From Me To You/BEATLE'S HITS E.P. Mar. 5 '63 3rd
Good Morning Good Morning /SGT. PEPPER/MONO 
I've Got A Feeling/LET IT BE Jan. 30 '69 (Apple Rooftop)
released Apr. 11'69 U.K. 6/5/69 U.S.
Two Of Us/RECORDED LIVE Jan. 24 '69 for film LET IT BE/

Plastic Ono Band / Instant Karma/Feb. 6 '70 (U.K) Feb.
20 '70 (U.S.) recorded on Jan. 27 ‘ 70 recorded and
mixed in one day, with Phil Spector producing. This
version of the Plastic Ono Band consisted of: George
Harrison Guitar / Grand Piano, John Lennon Vocals /
Guitar / Electric Piano, Klaus Voorman Bass / Electric
Pian, Alan White Drums / Grand Piano, Billy Preston
Organ Mal Evans Clapping / Chimes, And singing chorus,
a few drunks from London's Hatchetts Club conducted by

Paul McCartney/OO You.. Originally recorded at home as
an instrumental, Paul later added lyrics and completed
recording at Morgan Studios, playing all the instruments
plus an aerosol spray can. Released Apr. 17 '70 (U.K.)
few days later U.S. release.
George Harrison /Apple Scruffs..ReMastered by Ken
Scott All Things Must Pass
Ringo Starr/Early 1970/B-side of Ringo's first solo
single IT DON'T COME EASY. This was Ringo's ode to his
fellow Beatles and features George on backing Guitar /
Vocals while Ringo plays everything else. 
Fixing A Hole/ SGT. PEPPERS Feb. 21 '67 take 3/MONO
I'm Only Sleeping/REVOLVER Apr.27-29 & May 5-6 '66 take 13/MONO
Cry Baby Cry/WHITE ALBUM Jul. 16-18 ‘68/MONO/
Can You Take Me Back/WHITE ALBUM out take
Paul & Linda McCartney/Too Many People..RAM 
Baby You're a Rich Man /Magical Mystery Tour May 11 '67
German HiFi Stereo Mix
Think for Yourself/ New Yellow Submarine Mix
Girl/. RUBBER SOUL Nov. 11 '65 take 2/MONO
For No One/REVOLVER May 9-19 '66 take 7/MONO
It's Only Love/HELP! Jun. 15 '65 take 6/MONO
Norwegian Wood/RUBBER SOUL Oct. 21 '65 take 4/MONO

Have You Seen My Baby/Randy Newman's song w/ Marc Bolan
on Guitar from Ringo's 3rd solo album Nov. 8 '73
It Don't Come Easy/BANGLA DESH Live
I'm The Greatest/Performed by 3 Beatles!

I'm The Greatest - Performed by 3 Beatles!
John Lennon - Here we go Again - written by Lennon/Spector
Dig A Pony - LET IT BE
Awaiting on You All - Re-Mastered 2000
Gimme Some Truth - IMAGINE

I Want You (She's So Heavy)

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Message: 9
   Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 12:58:31 -0700
   From: "David Ponak" 
Subject: The Liquid Room-9/2/01

The Liquid Room, hosted by David Ponak (me), airs every
Saturday night from Midnight to 3AM (PDT) on 90.7FM KPFK
Los Angeles, as well as streaming at
Please join me this coming weekend!

An amazing time was had in the Liquid Room this past
weekend, as I had the thrill of having Margo Guryan as
my live, in studio guest. We had a great chat, as well
as spinning some amazing rarities and tracks from her
new CD, 25 Demos, which is just in stores today.

The Liquid Room-9/2/01

1.The Association/Come On In
Birthday (WB)

2.Tim "Love" Lee/One Night Samba
Just Call Me "Lone" Lee (Tummy Touch-UK)

3.Jacque Dutronc/Proverbes
Dutronic (Vogue-France)

4.The Gentle Waves/Let The Good Times Begin
A Swan Song For You (Jeepster)

5.Claudine Longet/Think Of Rain
A&M Remastere Best (Polydor-Japan)

6.Linus Of Hollywood/Shine
Your Favorite Record (Franklin Castle)

7.Spanky & Our Gang/Sunday Morning
Greatest Hits (Mercury)

8.Margo Guryan/Sunday Morning
25 Demos (Franklin Castle)

9.Margo Guryan/I Think About You
25 Demos (Franklin Castle)

10.Cass Elliot/I Think About You
Don't Call Me Mama Anywmore (One Way)

11.Margo Guryan/Most Of My Life
25 Demos (Franklin Castle)

12.Saint Etienne/I Don't Intend To Spend Christmas Without You
Fan Club CD

13.Margo Guryan/Allegretto
The Chopstick Variations

14.Margo Guryan/Something's Wrong With The Morning
25 Demos (Franklin Castle)

15.Margo Guryan/I'd Like To See The Bad Guys Win
25 Demos (Franklin Castle)

16.Malcolm McNeil/Think Of Rain

17.Sebastion Tellier/Black Douleur
L'incroyable Verite (Astralwerks)

18.Dudley Moore/Love Me
Bedazzled (Soundtrack) (Harkit-UK)

19.Pizzicato Five/Catwalk
Romantique '96 (Nippon Columbia-Japan)

20.A Camp/I Can Buy You
single (Stockholm-Sweden)

21.Le Hammond Inferno/F.S.B.
My First Political Dance Album (Bungalow-Germany)

22.Wendy & Bonnie/You Keep Hanging Up On My Mind
Genesis (Sundazed)

23.Nice System/We Sing Ba Ba Ba
Practical Guide To The Opposite Sex (Radio Khartoum)

24.The Critters/Younger Girl
Younger Girl (Kapp)

25.Super Furry Animals/Juxtaposed With You
Rings Around The World (Sony-UK)

26.The Januaries/Star At The Sun
The Januaries (Food Chain)

27.Isaac Hayes/A House Full Of Girls
Tough Guys (Soundtrack) (Stax)

28.Charlie Hunter feat Norah Jones/More Than This
Songs From The Analogue Playground (Blue Note)

29.Ex-Girl/Pop Music (Yoshihiro Sawasaki Mix)
single (Prime Direction-Japan)

Cerrone by Bob Sinclair (Universal-Eu)

31.Dudley Moore & Peter Cook/Bedazzled
Bedazzled (Soundtrack) (Arkit-UK)

32.Belle & Sebastion/Legal Man
Legal Man (Matador)

33.The Committee/California My Way
Happy Together: The White Whale Records Story (Varese Sarabande)

34.Tweaker (w/David Sylvian)/Linoleum
Linoleum (6 Degrees)

35.Faye Wong/Seperate Ways (128 Beat Mix)
Single (EMI-Hong Kong)

36.Wagon Christ/Bend Over
Musipal (Ninja Tune)

37.Call And Response/Roller Skate
Call And Response (Emperor Norton)

38.Chet Baker/Come Saturday Morning
The Mad Mad World Of Soundtracks Vol. 2 (Motor-Germany)

39.Bjork-It's Not Up To You
Vespertine (Elektra)

40.Money Mark/Caught Without A Race
Change Is Coming (Emperor Norton)

41.New Order/Run Wild
Get Ready (Reprise)

42.Willie Nelson/The Rainbow Connection
The Rainbow Connection (Island)

43.Paul Williams/Mornin' I'll Be Moving On
Someday Man (Reprise)

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