http://www.spectropop.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ thru the speakers of 10,000,000 transistor radios ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 9 messages in this issue of Spectropop. Topics in this Digest Number 236: 1. Re: Wall of Sound, "Back to Mono", and Stereo Ronettes From: "Mike Arcidiacono" 2. A&E From: "Vlaovic B" 3. Re: A&E "Songmakers" Special From: Marc Wielage 4. Re: Joe Meek audio From: "Nick Archer" 5. Dion article From: "James F. Cassidy" 6. Re: More Goldie From: Frank 7. Goldie/Escorts From: "Ian Chapman" 8. Dream Babes/Paper Dolls From: Kieron Tyler 9. The Liquid Room-8/19/01 From: David Ponak ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 22:35:06 -0400 From: "Mike Arcidiacono" Subject: Re: Wall of Sound, "Back to Mono", and Stereo Ronettes > produced "the wall of sound," sound.This was before > the days of multitracking right? So, this meant > everyone who was on a recording was there at one time > playing together, right? Also, these were mono > recordings right? he was trying to actually get a > stereo sounding mono recording. Is any of this true? Not really, no. Spector didnt believe in stereo. He believed that in a stereo mix, the listener could adjust the balance and "ruin" the effect of his hard earned mixes. (which is true to some extent). In mono, everything in the spacial plane is "fixed", the way the producer wants. Virtually every Spector hit was done on 3 track AMPEX multitrack equipment at Gold Star and Mira Sound in New York. Spector did many, many premixes before the final mono mix. This means that he would record, say, the guitars on track one, two basses in unison on track Two, and 4 pianos on track three. He would then "Premix" these three tracks to track ONE of another 3 track tape (on the second machine) . This left two tracks for , say, strings and horns. Then THIS tape was Premixed to the first machine, leaving 2 more open tracks, for vocals, etc. THIS is why the Spector "master" tapes are loaded with hiss and sound so "fuzzy" and indistinct. On some songs, the backing tracks are almost buried in noise and artifacts from all the bouncing. The vocals, which were usually recorded last, would have the highest fidelity of anything on the tape. This, of course, was the idea, as the Vocals would have to cut thru the murk and blast thru the speakers of 10,000,000 transistor radios. I think it worked pretty well! Mikey --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:27:32 -0400 From: "Vlaovic B" Subject: A&E Geez, what a treat that documentary was. I thought they'd talk about Spector a bit more (or at least put him into context), but I guess he was west coast (despite his origins). Someone asked about the Shirelles clip. I recall PBS showing this entire programme about 15 years ago. It was taped in England circa 1964. I do remember the whole show was led off by a biker roaring into the studio. Gene Vincent, Jerry Lee and maybe Little Richard were on it (the others I can't recall). However the Shirelles provided back-up vocals for some of the other acts. Gene Vincent looked really wicked in it. N --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 17:43:56 -0700 From: Marc Wielage Subject: Re: A&E "Songmakers" Special You can buy the entire 5-hour special on DVD for forty bucks directly from A&E, and they claim it'll have a little more material than the TV show(s), and it's also available on VHS for about the same price. It's a damned good show, too. Lotta clips I'd never seen before -- and I wish I could see the full-length versions, too. --MFW -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -= Marc Wielage | "The computerized authority =- -= MusicTrax, LLC | on rock, pop, & soul." =- -= Chatsworth, CA | =- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 05:31:50 -0500 From: "Nick Archer" Subject: Re: Joe Meek audio There is a radio show called Friendly Persuasion that streams a series of realaudio clips each week highlighting cool and strange music. This week's show consists of 49(!) Joe Meek audio clips. You can check it out at http://www.antennaradio.com/punk/friendlypersuasion/index.htm Nick Archer Nashville, TN --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 5 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 17:09:15 -0400 From: "James F. Cassidy" Subject: Dion article Salon.com has an article on Dion at the following URL: http://www.salon.com/people/bc/2001/08/28/dion/index.html It includes a brief discussion of "Born to Be with You," his album with Phil Spector. Jim Cassidy --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 6 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 01 08:08:15 +0200 From: Frank Subject: Re: More Goldie >Further Goldie research reveals an industrious four other >Genya Ravan albums recorded during the 70s, as well as >four albums as a member of 'Ten Wheel Drive' ('69-'74) >and three albums as a member of 'Gamma'('79-'82). Does >anybody here know these? I have one of these LPs "Gamma 3" which were imaginatively titled Gamma 1 Gamma 2 and Gamma 3 Apparently there is no Genya featured Gamma was the brainchild of Ronnie Montrose. But maybe she was part of another Gamma ? Frank --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 7 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 00:43:46 +0100 From: "Ian Chapman" Subject: Goldie/Escorts John Clemente wrote: > Prior to Goldie & The Gingerbreads, Genya sang with a > male group on Coral Records in 1963 named Goldie & The > Escorts ("One Hand, One Heart/I Can't Be True" and "Back > Home Again/Something Has Changed") John, There was an earlier Coral record from '62, billed as just the Escorts. Title was "Submarine Race Watching" (Coral 62336), which Goldie wrote. Flip was "Somewhere" Ian --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 8 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 11:27:12 +0100 From: Kieron Tyler Subject: Dream Babes/Paper Dolls Hello there, Nice to see some mention of the RPM Dream Babes CD by Ian Chapman and Jamie LePage. First - it couldn't have been the package it was without Ian's help. Thanks Ian. And thanks for the nice words about the liner notes. Yes it was a slightly schizoid collection - but that was part of the fun (at least to me) of the UK '60s girl scene. There was no single sound. That said, RPM are planning a follow up which include Peanut and The McKinley's and hopefully Sharon Tandy's Hold On. There will be more Peanut on RPM's soon-come Mark Wirtz double CD of his productions. But Jamie - I really like Ria Bartok, she ain't no goat. And she was probably singing in English phonetically with no idea of the meaning of the noises coming out her mouth. Her version of I'm Into Something Good is brill. I love Jill and the Boulevards - it's a one-off bonkers piece of madness sounding like no other record I've ever heard. It's hard to see why anyone at EMI thought it would have been a hit. On the Paper Dolls, Sanctuary (used to be Sequel) are issuing all their Pye stuff (within the next month I think). It will include their LP, three singles one unrel track (Step Inside Love) and mono versions off the 45s. Their 2 RCA singles have proved unlicensable. The CD insert will have interview with Tony Macaulay as well as Paper Doll Susie Mathis. Their recollections don't often coincide. All the best, Kieron --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 9 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:46:12 -0700 From: David Ponak Subject: The Liquid Room-8/19/01 The Liquid Room, hosted by David Ponak (me), airs every Saturday night from Midnight to 3AM (PDT) on 90.7FM KPFK Los Angeles, as well as streaming at http://kpfk.org. Please join me this coming weekend! This past week, my wonderful co-host/guest DJ was the Millionaire from Combustible Edison. We tag-teamed on sets all evening. The Liquid Room-8/19/01 1.The Association/Come On In Birthday (WB) 2.Ananji Kalyani/Disco Raj (DJ Me DJ You Mix) Bombay 2-Electric Vindaloo (Motel) 3.Wayne Cochran & The C.C. Riders/Satisfaction High & Ridin' 4.Supercar/Strobolights Japanese Alternative Music Sampler 5.Cary Berger/The New Women These The New Women Soundtrack 6.The Bully Boys Band/Face Off Movie Scene (Dunhill) 7.The Love Unlimited Orchestra/Somebody's Gonna Off The Man Together Brothers (20th Century) 8.Hugo Montenegro/Porcupine Pie Neil's Diamonds (RCA) 9.Swing Out Sister/Alpine Crossing Somewhere Deep In The Night (Universal-Japan) 10.ILS/Lights Idiots Behind The Wheel (Fuel Records-UK) 11.Money Mark/People's Party (Red Alert) Change Is Coming (Emperor Norton) 12.The Evolution Control Committee/The Whipped Cream Mixes 7" 13.Omar Khorshid & His Guitar/Guitar El Chark Rhythms From The Orient 14.Morroco/El 'Tho 7" (MGM) 15.Belly Go! Go!/Jelly Belly Belly Go! Go! 16.?????? Cambodia Rocks (Parallel World) 17.Pal@pop featuring Chappie/The Never Ending Rainbows single (Dream Machine) 18.Margo Guryan/It's Alright Now 25 Demos (Franklin Castle) 19.The Gentle Waves/Falling From Grace Swansong For You (Jeepster) 20.Steve & Eydie/Love Is Blue A Man And A Woman (RCA) 21.Depth Charge/Harley Davidson Carry On Kinky Beats (Lacerba-UK) 22.Monsieur Blumenburg/Escamotage Musique Et Couleurs (Irma-Italy) 23.The Transistors/Mission On Venus 12" (Right Tempo-Italy) 24.Anubian Lights/Starvox Naz Bar (Crippled Dick Hot Wax-Germany) 25.Cabaret Voltaire/Sensoria Microphonies (Virgin-UK) 26.Donovan/Writer In The Sun Mellow Yellow (Epic) 27.Qypthone/Scooter single (Happiness-Japan) 28.Swan Dive/Bachelorette Words You Whisper (Siesta-Spain) 29.Combustible Edison/Bluebeard (FPM Mix) Single (Bungalow-Germany) 30.Miss Lily Banquet-My Secret Love Grace Of My Heart (soundtrack) (MCA) 31.Nirvana (no, not THAT Nirvana)/All Of Us The Touchables (soundtrack) 32.Mort Garson/Aquarius Cosmic Sounds Of The Zodiac 33.Cher/A Woman's Story 7" (Warner/Spector) 34.Scott Walker/That Night The Mad Mad World Of Soundtracks Vol. 2 (Universal-Germany) 35.The Isley Brothers/Hello It's Me Beautiful Ballads (Epic) 36.Hydroplane/Embassy Cafe The Sound Of Changing Places (Drive-In) 37.Grace Jones/I've Done It Again Nightclubbing (Island) 38.Tony Bruno/I'm Feeling It Now Easy L (Epic) 39.The Peddlers/On A Clear Day Three In A Cell (Columbia) 40.Norm Burns/The Human Breakdown Of Abusurdity The Human Breakdown Of Abusurdity 41.The Kane Triplets/Theme From Mission Impossible 7" (UA) 42.Stu Phillips w/Lynn Perry/Cream (Unreleased) --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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