http://www.spectropop.com/go2/everett.html ________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ The Spectropop Group salutes the late Betty Everett http://www.spectropop.com/go2/everett.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 9 messages in this issue of Spectropop. Topics in this Digest Number 235: 1. Betty Everett - Jay Black From: Paul Urbahns 2. More Goldie From: "Phil Chapman" 3. Genya Ravan From: John Clemente 4. Margo and Goldie From: Carol Kaye 5. Wall of Sound, "Back to Mono", and Stereo Ronettes From: Spectropop Admin 6. Nancy Adams From: Alan Miller 7. A&E From: Will George 8. Re: A&E Biography pop music week From: "Mike Arcidiacono" 9. A&E From: Jamie LePage ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 16:45:56 EDT From: Paul Urbahns Subject: Betty Everett - Jay Black > Betty Everett, made famous with It's in His Kiss (The > Shoop Shoop Song) passed away. The newspapaper reports > said her family found her dead in her home on Sunday > (8/19). She was 61. She appeared in a duet with Jerry Butler on the Doo Wop 51 TV Special on PBS last year. I just received the new show for this year on tape from my brother who lives in Pittsburgh. It has a dynamite performance by 62 year old Jay Black doing Cara Mia. Paul Urbahns Message: 2 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 18:30:47 +0100 From: "Phil Chapman" Subject: More Goldie Further Goldie research reveals an industrious four other Genya Ravan albums recorded during the 70s, as well as four albums as a member of 'Ten Wheel Drive' ('69-'74) and three albums as a member of 'Gamma'('79-'82). Does anybody here know these? Message: 3 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 00:59:47 -0400 From: John Clemente Subject: Genya Ravan Hello All, Prior to Goldie & The Gingerbreads, Genya sang with a male group on Coral Records in 1963 named Goldie & The Escorts ("One Hand, One Heart/I Can't Be True" and "Back Home Again/Something Has Changed"). About two or three years ago, I listened to an interview with Genya Ravan by Don K. Reed on WCBS-FM radio in NYC. It was around the time that all the original members of Goldie & The Gingerbreads had gotten their picture in the New York Daily News for an impromptu reunion. During the interview, Genya played a record she had recorded in England (?) which was released on Island Records in the early 70s(?), a seriously good version of The Hearts 1956 classic, "Disappointed Bride". She recorded it under a pseudonym, "(?) Saturday", I think. Anyone out there with the definite info? Regards, John Clemente Message: 4 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:58:28 -0700 From: Carol Kaye Subject: Margo and Goldie Here's from Deb Hastings, bassist/conductor of the Bo Diddley group that Margo Lewis books (and plays organ), Sorry I got it wrong, I tho't she was "Goldie" - evidently Margo was just in the group......... Carol Kaye http://www.carolkaye.com/ > No, actually they have it correct - Margo was Margo > and Goldie was Genya Ravan eventually. Same group - > different people Message: 5 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 13:30:55 +0900 From: Spectropop Admin Subject: Wall of Sound, "Back to Mono", and Stereo Ronettes [From Spectropop Bulletin Board] In reply to Johh, who wrote to the Spectropop Bulletin Board: > I have heard brief descriptions of how Phil Spector > produced "the wall of sound," sound. Does anyone really > know or have a description of what these sessions looked > like physically? This was before the days of > multitracking right? So, this meant everyone who was on > a recording was there at one time playing together, > right? Also, these were mono recordings right? Since > Spector knew these songs would be played by kids mostly > in cars. Right? I have heard that Spector was trying to > get the best sound he could for that kind of delivery > system; i.e. a single car speaker. And, he was trying to > actually get a stereo sounding monon recording. Is any > of this true? > > Thanks a bunch. > > You should hear what I've told some people what I've > imagined the wall of sound to be. > > Peace RICK replied on Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:32:29 Hope I don't come off like a know-it-all, 'cos I don't...but: More specifically, the aural density (my term!) of PS's records is partly due to the peculiarities of the 3-track recording system, and the specific characteristics of both the original Gold Star recorder as well as the echo chamber in that studio. When recording on a 3-track (be it MONO 3-track STEREO 3-track) ONE track is ALWAYS left "open", i.e. TR 1 Rhythm, TR 2 (perhaps) Strings, TR3 "open" When TR1 is combined with TR2 it isn't a simple addition - a "bounce" effect is heard: that is, the ambience of the tracks has a multiplier effect rather than a straight combination when it's "bounced" to TR3. It's known as "tape echo", "reverb" etc but's technically none of the above. It's all about exactly what degree of ambient echo is bounced - not simply echo-for-the-sake-of echo: you have to start with a beefy rhythm track otherwise theres no density to the final mix and you'll end up with a watery Spector imitation. And the end product has to be be mastered rough & tough - needles need to bounce off the grooves! PS's STEREO: Superb '63, '64 Stereo for a US producer!!! But was it done with (true) Stereo mikes and a Left & Right channel configuration throughout the entire recording, mixing and mastering process? No on your life!!!The brilliance of PS's Stereo lies in the fact that HE created it - not a machine... Related subject: The highly under-rated BONO-PHONIC Sound Process...Check out the original Cher "Bang Bang" in Stereo for starters: "R" channel's the mixed down MONO orchestral track, "L" channel is Cher's vocal in Gold Star's echo chamber with sound leakage from blasting speakers outside the chamber. (Most early S&C Stereo was actually Bono-phonic...but - lets face it - he got closer than anyone else) Hope these jottings are of interest and informative... --------end of forwarded message-------- Message: 6 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 04:16:29 -0400 From: Alan Miller Subject: Nancy Adams The internet has thrown up scant information on Nancy Adams whose 7' release "i wanna hear it from you" i have been trying to track down for a couple of years. Anyone have the good word on Nancy?? Or maybe even a spare copy of the above? Hush. Message: 7 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:19:15 EDT From: Will George Subject: A&E I have A&E at home, but unfortunately I'm not at home this week so will miss the programs. But... A&E usually has an offer to sell the videos of their shows. I'd suggest checking their website after the broadcast to see if they are offering it. And if they aren't, try emailing them and requesting a copy. Can't hurt. Message: 8 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 21:05:27 -0400 From: "Mike Arcidiacono" Subject: Re: A&E Biography pop music week Hey folks. I'm watching the Brill building show on A&E tonite. They just showed the Shirelles singing "Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow" LIVE!! It wasnt a lip sync like so many of the '60s clips were. It looks like a Tv appearance. The backing band was WAILING on the guitars. They looked a little like the Nooney Ricket Four. Does anyone know what the appearance was? Anybody have a complete copy of this? I've gotta have it!! Mikey Message: 9 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:20:08 +0900 From: Jamie LePage Subject: A&E Just a quick note following my request regarding the A&E special. I've happily sorted this out now. Thanks to all who responded. You guys are the best! Jamie End
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