http://www.spectropop.com ________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ Keep away from direct heat and sunlight ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 8 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. The Teddy Bears From: Brian Chidester 2. JERRY FULLER From: "Warren Cosford" 3. New Colony Six From: Ron 4. Lorraine Mazzola From: Jimmy Crescitelli 5. reparata From: john rausch 6. Reparata From: Frank Youngwerth 7. Re: Reparata Redux From: Doc Rock 8. Reparata Redux From: John Clemente ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 00:58:01 EDT From: Brian Chidester Subject: The Teddy Bears Does anyone know anything about the Teddy Bears in the 1960s? I've heard more than one person say that some version of the group existed and played live even up until 1966. I know that Spector wasn't involved past 1960, but were Marshall or Annette even involved either? Anyone else ever heard of this touring act? Brian --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 09:19:17 -0400 From: "Warren Cosford" Subject: JERRY FULLER Jane Wade wrote: > In 1965 Jerry Fuller had an East Coast hit that was a > ballad. Very heavy production on it - lots of strings. > > > It was breathtakingly beautiful. > > Over the years I've tried to remember the name of it > but come up short. > > Can anyone help? Jane Hi Jane: Might it have been "Goodnight Pretty Girl"? --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 13:42:50 EDT From: Ron Subject: New Colony Six Great to hear!! Now if we could just get the Mercury albums of another Chicago band, the New Colony Six..........(Some people are never satisfied.) Ron Efram Turchick writes: > Sundazed is indeed working on CD reissues for the > Cryan Shames (Chicago version)! We don't have a firm > release date yet, but sometime late this year or early > next year seems likely. So, er ... mark your calendars! --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 07:25:36 EDT From: Jimmy Crescitelli Subject: Lorraine Mazzola Donny Hampton: Correct... the only real Reparata was / is Mary Aiese. Lorraine usurped the name when she fronted the group. There have been some posts re the various legal technicalities... --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 22:35:22 -0400 From: john rausch Subject: reparata Jamie says... "Dare I say it? Try as I may, I just don't get Reparata and the Delrons." ....Don`t feel left out Jamie, I too feel as you do. Although I have not heard an entire collection by them, what I have heard has made me passively say, "well that`s nice" And that`s the end of it. I do actually like Captain Of Your Ship, Toom Toom and Read My Diary. I believe from the latter part of the 60s. The earlier World Artist recordings are just beyound my grasp . Although I do find the group name intriguing. Maybe with such a cool name I expect something more. I was also quite amazed at how much interest was being posted on the group. Jamie, maybe you and I are just out of the loop. But it's good to see so much interest on this list. Who knows who will be discussed next? Just my 2 cents worth :-) John Rausch --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 6 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 11:20:46 EDT From: Frank Youngwerth Subject: Reparata I think plenty of us "out here" haven't been able to figure out what some girl group fans hear in Reparata and the Delrons. Still, they're an interesting group, and it intrigues me that one Reparata was in Lady Flash, since I clearly remember hearing their single on the radio. I'm too young to have caught any prime Spectropop as it "happened" on AM, coming in around the time of "Go All the Way" by the Raspberries, which sounded extremely "60s" (i.e. Spect-acular) to this 10-year-old back in '72. Frank Youngwerth --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 7 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 20:14:12 -0400 From: Doc Rock Subject: Re: Reparata Redux > The current thread reminds me once again of something I > have wondered for a long time - that is, why don't I > hold Reparata and the Delrons' recordings in high esteem > like so many other GG fans do? Jamie, Your comments fascinate me. I guess it is individual preference at work. I love all Reparata, especially the remakes (aka covers). Usually I don't like LP cut remakes of my favorite hits, but most of hers, I prefer to the originals, a first for me! Yet there have been MANY artists lauded wildly in Spectropop that -- well, when I heard them on the radio 35 years ago, I assumed they were being played due to payola or the station manager's mother requested them. I couldn't believe that any of my fellow teens really wanted to hear them. Now I am astonished that fellow Poppers actually treasure them! Individual differences/preferences at work, I guess! Doc --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 8 Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 01:59:12 -0400 From: John Clemente Subject: Reparata Redux Hello All, Jamie, I had to chuckle when I read your post. At the risk of inadvertently contradicting my own glorious praises of Reparata & The Delrons in my book, I will say that I must agree with Jamie. I couldn't bestow the specific praise afforded to them, either, despite their talent as a group. When I saw Reparata & The Delrons in the mid-80s at the Bottom Line in New York, I must say that they put on a superb show. Every song, every dance step was obviously well-rehearsed. In fact, when I interviewed her for "Girl Groups", Mary stated that one of the reasons for considering the group's retirement was because, despite her obviously hard work, jobs were getting scarce. She had been thinking about it at the time we spoke and it became a reality about a year ago. Richard Nader told her he couldn't put her on shows because the group never had a big hit. Please remember now, that "Whenever..." and "Tommy" were huge in New York City, but were bottom rung chart placings on the nationals. It was especially shameful to forego this group because they were so polished. At the time I saw them, the trio was Reparata, Nanette Licari, a member since '66 and Cookie Sirico, a member since '69. Cookie's first Delrons assignment was as part of Reparata & The Delrons Rock and Roll Revolution LP on Avco Embassy in 1970. Mary also sang on every cut on this LP, although she is not pictured on the cover. I didn't list this LP in my discography because at the time "Girl Groups" was going to press, I became aware that there was some sort of LP, but no info beyond that. I never asked Mary and she never mentioned it. It wasn't until after "Girl Groups" came out that I saw the album and was given the info by a Reparata fan who confirmed her presence on the vinyl. The LP was produced by the Jerome Bros. and arranged by John Abbott, the three gents who had stayed with the group from their inception. I believe that they firmly believed in Reparata's voice. Heck, they put her on the road as a soloist after Sheila Reilly and Carol Drobnicki quit over too many tours and too little money. A press release for their signing to RCA shows only Mary in the picture with all the execs. Her solo single for Big Tree (billed as Reparata) is produced by them. It's highly unlikely that they would do anything for a Delrons group without her, since they had invested so much time in a group that she fronted. As far as Lorraine Mazzola taking the name because she sang lead, she never had the chance. They never recorded again as The Delrons after the Avco LP and after Mary's departure. This is when the remaining trio (Mazzola, Sirico and Licari) worked locally and did demos. Maybe that's when Lorraine took over as lead and was heard by Barry Manilow. If anyone out there has released Delrons material dated after 1970, please let me know, I'd like to see it, but I seriously doubt it. Mary was using Reparata for her solo career since '71. Mary did not relinquish her name to Lorraine. That was all Lorraine's idea. Both Mary and Nanette Licari confirmed this. After Lorraine defaulted on the lawsuit, Mary resumed working with Nanette and Cookie. As far as the quality of their material, I wouldn't compare them to The Chiffons. It's like comparing apples to oranges. Different voices, different singing styles, different producers. As far as their version of "I Have A Boyfriend", my opinion is 'sorry, don't mess with originals'. That's the way I feel about covers of "Be My Baby" and "Heat Wave"; 'please don't bother, the original can't be improved'. Even non-charting material by The Chiffons is wonderful (B.T. Puppy LP). Mary herself complained in interviews about some of the material they were given. Except for "I Can Hear The Rain" and "I'm Nobody's Baby Now", I haven't heard the RCA material either. Two of those Kapp singles seriously miss the mark (okay, they're phhhhhhth!). "Your Big Mistake" on Laurie is pleasant, but I wouldn't pay big bucks for it, even though you never see it. I like their Mala material. I felt it suited their style while updating it. Their wonderful single, "Captain of Your Ship" [that IS Mary singing the lead parts through a voice filter; sorry Dave] and it's flip, "Toom Toom" were writting by Kenny Young ("Please Don't Kiss Me Again"/"Under The Boardwalk"), but it's obvious that Reparata & The Delrons were not always on the "A" list for material. "Heaven Only Knows/Summer Laughter" is good, but not great. I like "You Can't Change A Young Boy's Mind", but I've played it for other GG nuts who only shrug. Whenever I see a Reparata & The Delrons single that I don't have for sale at a reasonable price, I will snatch it up, but I feel their singles don't do enough for me to rate them as high as The Chiffons or The Cookies. This is not to say that they aren't talented. Some material by otherwise good groups is sometimes simply for fans (e.g. Bobbie Smith & The Dream Girls on Metro). It all comes down to a matter of taste. . . oh, come on! Everyone out there has at least one artist that they collect where everyone else says "yawn" on some material. Okay, you can start throwing your bricks now! John Clemente --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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