http://www.spectropop.com ________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ THE PERSONALITY SOUND of the SIXTIES ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 11 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Stereo Ronettes on CD From: RICK 2. Peggy Santiglia From: Ron Buono 3. Re: Flowerpot Men & Cryan Shames From: "David Parkinson" 4. Fab Flowerpot Men From: "Ian Chapman" 5. Cryan Shames & Flowerpot Men From: "Kingsley Abbott" 6. Cryin' Shames & The Flowerpot Men From: Brian Chidester 7. "Captain Of Your Ship" From: "Phil Chapman" 8. latter-day Reparata From: "Spector Collector" 9. Delrons (and others) on TV From: "Ian Chapman" 10. Mystery session From: Aleecat 11. Dee Dee sets the records straight From: "Spector Collector" ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:42:42 +0900 From: RICK Subject: Stereo Ronettes on CD I'd like to trade/buy a cd format copy of "Presenting the Fabulous..." - my vinyl has said: "No More!" (I'm a born-again Spectorphile from way back: this is one FANTASTIC site...) --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:03:46 EDT From: Ron Buono Subject: Peggy Santiglia Billy writes: > BTW: Was Reparata in the (studio?) group Dusk, which > had a 45 on Bell in 1970-1 called "Angel Baby"? I just > scored a copy last month and the vocalist sounds > awfully familar! Hi Billy- I believe that it was Peggy Santiglia of The Angels who fronted the group "DUSK". They made several recordings on the Bell label during the 70's including the excellent "I hear those church bells ringing". BTW- Peggy also was a member of the group "The Delicates" (Unart), and "Jessica James & The Outlaws" (Dynovoice). Ron --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:54:53 -0700 From: "David Parkinson" Subject: Re: Flowerpot Men & Cryan Shames Richard Havers wrote: > The voice of Tony Burrows has featured on many hits, > both before and after the Flowerpot Men. He was in First > Class, The Ivy League, Edison Lighthouse and The Pipkins, > he was also one of the backing vocalists on the early > Who singles. Throughout the 70's and 80's he also sang > on numerous advertising jingles. In the Varese bubblegum series (5 separate CDs), one is entirely dedicated to The Voice Of Tony Burrows and the dizzying array of pop projects he was associated with: 1. Love Grows (Where My Rosemary Goes) - Edison Lighthouse [Macaulay/Mason] 2. Every Little Move She Makes - Tony Burrows [Cook/G/M] 3. Have You Had A Little Happiness Lately - Domino [Arnold/M/M] 4. Beach Baby - First Class [Carter/Shakespeare] 5. In The Bad Bad Old Days - Tony Burrows [Macaulay/MacLeod] 6. Take Me In Your Arms - Edison Lighthouse [Macaulay/MacLeod] 7. My Baby Loves Lovin' - White Plains [Cook/Greenaway] 8. The Disco Kid - First Class [Carter/Shakespeare] 9. Melanie Makes Me Smile - Tony Burrows [Macaulay/Mason] 10. Better Fly, Butterfly - Touch [Arnold/M/M] 11. Summertime - West End Boys [Burrows/Martin] 12. Dreams Are Ten A Penny - First Class [Carter/Shakespeare] 13. In A Moment Of Madness - Flowerpot Men [Cook/Greenaway] 14. United We Stand - The Brotherhood Of Man [Hiller/Simons] 15. Girl You've Got Me Going - Tony Burrows [Arnold/M/M] 16. Never Gonna Fall In Love Again - Magic [Carmen] 17. Gimme Dat Ding - Pipkins [Hammond/Hazelwood] 18. Too Many Golden Oldies - First Class [Carter/Shakespeare] I think that his is the quintessential AM radio voice of the early 70s, hands down. David --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 4 Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 11:04:55 +0100 From: "Ian Chapman" Subject: Fab Flowerpot Men Jamie said: > But oh, Brian - You're gonna love the Flowerpot Men! > The two principals, John Carter and Ken Lewis, were > formerly the core of the British vocal group Ivy > League ....you need a good Flowerpot Men comp too! An > essential Mellotron drenched summer-of-'67 psyche pop > classic - Let's Go To San Francisco!! If you can still find a copy, there was a superb comp issued on Summit in '97, "The Very Best of the Flowerpot Men". Apart from A and B sides of the first three singles, there's also unreleased tracks, some of which were to be included on a never-completed album. As you might expect, the vocals are excellent and there really isn't a duff track, with something to please most Spectropoppers. "White Dove" is awesome - harks back to Carter & Lewis' Ivy League days, with added cavernous Spectorish echo. Fans of Beach Boys will recognise familiar little touches throughout the tracks - the intro to "Heaven Knows When" briefly borrows from "Good Vibrations", while "Am I Losing You" invokes "Caroline No" in the verse. The surf-influenced, summery "Silicon City" gives an indication of the First Class "Beach Baby" hit that was to come later. What was probably to be the "concept" piece of the album is the anti-war marathon "Children of Tomorrow", which runs at 7' 57, starts with children's voices in conversation, includes a verse sung in French, and ends with a baby crying! Apart from a different intro and retrospective lyric, "Let's Go Back To San Francisco Pt. 1" follows the same pattern as the hit. But the real surprise is "Let's Go Back To San Francisco Pt. 2" which kicks off unmistakably with their Ivy League track, "Funny How Love Can Be" with the lyrics replaced by the group occasionally singing "Remember.....", then it segues into "Back to San Francisco" once more. You're right Jamie - everybody needs a good Flowerpot Men comp! Ian Full track listing:- Let's Go To San Francisco Pts 1 & 2 A Walk In The Sky Am I Losing You? Man Without A Woman You Can Never Be Wrong Piccolo Man Mythological Sunday Sweet Baby Jane Journey's End Let's Go Back To San Francisco Pt. 1 Silicon City Busy Doin' Nothing White Dove Cooks of Cake and Kindness Gotta Be Free Heaven Knows When Brave New World Children of Tomorrow Let's Go To San Francisco Pt. 2 --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 5 Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 21:37:48 +0100 From: "Kingsley Abbott" Subject: Cryan Shames & Flowerpot Men Interesting to see the Shames being discussed - leaving aside the obvious confusion between the Chicago group and the UK one, the US group certainly did more than just the rather weak version of "Sugar and Spice". They managed three albums, amongst which there are some fine summery soft sunshine pop that I reckon would be very greatly enjoyed by members of the group - nearest reference would probably be The Critters soft sound. Search out tracks like "I Was Lonely When", "It Could Be We're In Love" (both written by group member Jim Fairs if memory serves correct) and a nice version of "Up On The Roof". Their third album was called "Synthesis", and was their attempt at more adventurous pop. Go for the second one if you should get a choice! Coincidence time - I am just writing notes for a new Flowerpot Men CD that will arrive on Britain's RPM label in about a months time. It will (I think) be called "The Psychedelic World Of The Flowerpot Men" and will feature twelve tracks of their best, but often in extended versions. John Carter has often put out the tracks in various forms, but tries each time to make them different/better for collectors. In the States they were just known as The Flowerpots - maybe the vintage TV imagery of the original puppet characters was deemed too subversive! "Let's Go To San Francisco" (Parts 1 & 2) featured JC on lead, Ken Lewis, Tony Burrows and Robin Shaw on BVs. Neil Landon didn't come on board for that project until a little later. The new compilation should go down well with Spectropoppers, specially if you don't have any of their stuff. BTW If anyone could track down a US only cover of "LGTSF" on Roulette by Brit group The Summer Set, I would LOVE to get some/any sort of copy of that one. The Summer Set were an excellent four piece harmony group around London and environs circa 1965/6 that I remember seeing at the famed Marquee club once. They cut a good cover of Brian Wilson's "Farmer's Daughter". Kingsley Abbott PS. I love Reparata too (World Artists and RCA stuff), and some video does exist - in Stockholm at least. I think I may have it somewhere. It was a later oldies type show with one of the later, post Captain line-ups. There was also a second album in U.K. called I think "Rock And Roll Revolution" (Atco?) with some somewhat weaker versions of girl group classics and a smattering of other things. Not worth top dollar unless you're a completist. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 6 Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:11:31 EDT From: Brian Chidester Subject: Cryin' Shames & The Flowerpot Men To Everyone Who Answered, Thanks for the information. I have all of the Zekley-produced 45's, most of the cover versions that artists/groups did of his songs and all of the LPs that he worked on. I have to say that I was just shocked to see those groups in the same sentence as that of Zekley, which is why I enquired. Thanks Again, Brian --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 7 Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 00:48:25 +0100 From: "Phil Chapman" Subject: "Captain Of Your Ship" John wrote: >Well, I guess "Captain of Your Ship" > did bubble under int he US and made the Top 20 in the > UK One stunt that helped "Captain Of Your Ship" do so well in the UK was the so-called 'feud' between Reparata & The Delrons and The Paper Dolls, who had "Something Here In My Heart" charting at the same time. I can't remember the exact details, but it was managed well enough to make the national newspapers. Those were the days! April 1968 "Captain Of Your Ship" peaked at no.13 the same week "Something Here In My Heart" hit no.12 - that was a nail-biting 'Top Of The Pops' I can assure y'all:-) Another minor contribution to the song's popularity was that in March 1968 the last two defiant offshore pirate radio stations, which had been the voice of young Britain since 1964, were cut loose, towed over to Holland and impounded. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 8 Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 22:40:10 +0000 From: "Spector Collector" Subject: latter-day Reparata With all the talk about Reparata and/or the Delrons here lately, I thought I'd bring up some latter-day-era items to keep the conversation going. In 1974, a year before her marginally successful solo single "Shoes," already discussed here, Reparata cut a solo remake of the group's smash "Whenever a Teenager Cries," once again with John Abbott arranging and with Steve and Bill Jerome producing. I only have this on a DJ copy with the same song in stereo on one side and in mono on the other; does anybody know what was on the flip, assuming that there was ever a commercial release of the disc (North American Music Industries 2024)? In 1976, RSO released a Barry Manilow-and-Ron Dante-produced LP called "Beauties in the Night" (#3002 in the U.S.) by an all-female disco trio called Lady Flash, of which Reparata was the caucasian third (the other members were Monica Burruss and Debra Byrd). Manilow co-wrote about half the album, including the brilliant doo-wop tribute (its disco leanings notwithstanding) "Street Singin'." Most of the disc utilizes their voices equally and/or harmonically, but each woman has one track on which she solos; the spotlight falls on Reparata on "Arms of Mary." Two singles were released, also in 1976: "Street Singin'"/"Hypnotizin'" (the latter not included on the album) on #852, and "Never Gonna Let You Get Away"/"Nowhere to Run" on #864. Soon after that, Reparata went out on tour with some Delrons on the oldies circuit (I say "some" because I don't know whether any or all of the originals were involved.) This group cut an album called "On the Road Again" to sell at those shows. J. D. Doyle taped this for me years ago, and I've never seen the cover. It must be incredibly rare, but I must say that it's also incredibly bad. The instrumentation sounds truly elementary-school level, and every aspect, from performance to production, runs the gamut from amateurish to perfunctory. I'm guessing that this is from 1978, due to its inclusion of that year's big hit for The Pointer Sisters, "Fire," whose treatment Reparata et al attempt to lift note for bravely approximated note. Apart from that, it's remakes of "Whenever a Teenager Cries" and "Tommy," lots of girl group staples, "So Young," and "Why Do Fools Fall in Love," along with a halfhearted stab at (or near) country. All that said, I'd love to own a copy of the LP, not least of which reasons is the many Spector songs covered on it. Any of y'all have one you could scan so I could at least see it? David A. Young --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 9 Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 11:22:50 +0100 From: "Ian Chapman" Subject: Delrons (and others) on TV Tony said: >Sorry, no Reparata footage though--does any exist??..... Yep, Tony, they lip-synched to "Captain of Your Ship" for the German 60s show "Beat Club". It was screened on UK TV about 10 years ago when they ran a series of Beat Clubs. Most of the shows were from the 70s, but the few black & white late-60s shows had a some real gems. Gene Pitney with "Heartbreaker" and "Something's Gotten Hold Of My Heart", Madeline Bell - "I'm Gonna Make You Love Me", PP Arnold - "Angel Of The Morning", Sandy Posey - "Single Girl", the Association - "Time For Livin'" and Billie Davis with "Make The Feeling Go Away" and her version of "Angel of the Morning" are just a few that come to mind. And fans of German 60s girls would have appreciated the fab Marion Maerz performing her English version of "I Go To Sleep". Ian --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 10 Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 06:52:45 -0000 From: Aleecat Subject: Mystery session A certain New York baroque rock genius composer producer who had hits in the sixties is back in the studio doing a reunion album of his once well known chart hit act. All the original members are participating. This man, once acclaimed by Leonard Bernstein, has been compared to Brian Wilson in the talent dept., and is considered his East Coast counterpart. I can say no more, but I have a feeling there's going to be some very good music coming from these sessions. They said it wouldn't/couldn't happen. NEVER say never ! Aleecat --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 11 Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 23:06:05 +0000 From: "Spector Collector" Subject: Dee Dee sets the records straight A while back, I mentioned the Web site of Dee Dee Kenniebrew, saying that I'd asked her some questions and would report back here if she answered. Well, she has, and I'm just sorry that the thread about "Please Be My Boyfriend" had not yet started at that point or I would have asked her for any insight she may have about that as well. First, although I know that her given name is Dolores, I asked her whether the 1966 Loma single by Delilah Kennebruew ("Bright Lights"/""We'll Be Together," #2049) was really by her. Here's what she said: "The girl might be a relative. She more than likely is. I never heard of the song or the singer though." I also asked her whether she recalled The Crystals ever having a go at two tunes, and she dispelled two longstanding rumors in her response. The group was long believed to have recorded the original version of Phil's composition (with Anders and Poncia) "Mary Ann," released by Honey Love and the Love Notes on Cameo 380, but she says no. They were also said to have had the first shot at "It's My Party," but that's not the way she remembers it. I thought it was on Spectropop, but maybe it was somewhere else, but in the time between my asking Dee Dee about this and getting her answer, I believe that I learned that it was actually Darlene who got as far as the studio with it for Phil, or nearly anyway. Corroboration please? Here are Dee Dee's comments on these songs: " 'Mary Ann,' I never heard of. 'It's My Party,' we never got a chance to record. Carole King brought it to us before she even had the verses finished. She presented it to us as a ballad. We were going to do it but Quincy Jones got hired by Lesley Gore's dad I am told (he is a rich man you know in the garment industry; ladies undergarments, I understand) and it got quickly recorded by Lesley Gore and released before we were able to!" That's the latest; if anyone wants to write her about "Please Be My Boyfriend," you can reach her at [her email address]; I don't want to bother her again this soon myself. If you do write her, please post the answer here! David A. Young --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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