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          Girl Groups - Fabulous Females That Rocked The World          
       The book by John Clemente about the Girl Groups phenomenon
            Reviews, photos, artist line-up and how to order.
            http://www.spectropop.com/gg/girl.html

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There are 13 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Hoagy Lands/Chiffons
           From: "Phil Reeves" 
      2. Re: Neil Sedaka
           From: Marc Wielage
      3. Sedaka's "Sunny"
           From: "Spector Collector"
      4. Reparata/Delrons
           From: Marc Miller
      5. Re: Reparata and the Delrons - Dusk - Beverly Ann
           From: Billy G. Spradlin 
      6. Re: Reparata and the Delrons
           From: dzarem
      7. I Have A Boyfriend - again!
           From: "Phil Chapman"
      8. I Do
           From:Brian Chidester
      9. I Really Do
           From: "LePageWeb"
     10. Flowerpot Men & Cryan Shames
           From: Brian Chidester 
     11. Re: Nitzsche
           From: aleecat
     12. Brill doc and Red Bird comp
           From: "Vlaovic B" 
     13. A&E Biography -- "Hitmakers"
           From: John Clemente


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Message: 1
   Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 06:57:16 -0000
   From: "Phil Reeves"
Subject: Re: Hoagy Lands/Chiffons

John

I will now get your book!.I read about it in "In The
Basement" when it was launched but i've never seen one in
the shops near me. 

Phil


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Message: 2
   Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 02:38:10 -0700
   From: Marc Wielage 
Subject: Re: Neil Sedaka

Tom Waters commented on the SpectroPop list:

 
> I'm glad to see Neil Sedaka being discussed on the list.
> For some time, he has been my favourite male singer.  I
> can't begin to list my favourite Sedaka recordings
> because I love all the hits (especially Happy Birthday
> Sweet Sixteen) and the more obscure ones (eg. The
> Dreamer)...
>----------------------------------------<

Yeah, amen to that.  While Sedaka's not quite my
favorite male singer, I'd sure consider him one of the
best of that era.  One of his songs that happened near
the end of his RCA career, "Alice in Wonderland," was
one I never heard on the radio -- although it hit #17
nationally, it was right on the eve of the British
Invasion.  I discovered this song some years back on the
RCA "All-Time Greatest Hits" CD, and thought it was a
real knockout. Right up there with his best.  If you
folks out there haven't heard this song, buy this CD and
I'll personally refund your money if you hate it.

> Also, I have read his autobiography and I quite
> enjoyed it...

Yeah, his autobiography was quite good.  I finally found
a used copy on Amazon awhile back, and was impressed by
his willingness to talk about his failures as well as his
successes.  He went into some detail about his
frustration at not having many hits during the late 1960s
-- which he pretty much blamed on the Beatles and
changing tastes -- and even stuff like his brief feud
with The Carpenters, with whom he appeared as their
opening act during the mid-1970s.  I also thought his
regrets at breaking up with longtime songwriting partner
Howie Greenfield were poignant and insightful. Very
interesting guy.


--MFW

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Message: 3
   Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 17:15:16 +0000
   From: "Spector Collector" 
Subject: Sedaka's "Sunny"

Good news for Billy Spradlin, who's looking for Neil
Sedaka's song "Sunny" in (((stereo))): it's on the 1991
RCA CD "All Time Greatest Hits Volume 2." Glad to see
Neil getting his props here; though his name doesn't come
up as often as Phil's, Carole's, Gerry's, Ellie's, Jeff's,
Cynthia's, or Barry's, his sizeable legacy of outstanding
recordings and compositions earns him a place in the
exalted Brill pantheon right alongside them.

David A. Young


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Message: 4
   Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 11:21:06 -0400
   From: Marc Miller 
Subject: Reparata/Delrons

I love these girls, too - and as great as their 1 (US) LP
is, they had an amazing later single called "Captain of
Your Ship" on Bell UK which I believe was a hit in
England in the early 70's (?).  Did they have any other
UK hits during this time?

Marc


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Message: 5
   Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 08:16:17 -0000
   From: Billy G. Spradlin 
Subject: Re: Reparata and the Delrons - Dusk - Beverly Ann

My personal favorite from Reparata & The Delrons is
"Mama's Little Girl" a jangly gem with a great chourus
and big production that should have been a monster hit.
It seemed the promotion dept at RCA was more interested
in promoting MOR like Sgt. Barry Sanders. 

BTW: Was Reparata in the (studio?) group Dusk, which had
a 45 on Bell in 1970-1 called "Angel Baby"? I just scored
a copy last month and the vocalist sounds awfully familar!

Im also looking for information on Beverly Ann. I have 2
45's on different labels and and I've been wondering if
they are the same artist. One is on Showcase: "The Great
Pretender" (an interesting version of the Platters
classic) and one on RCA "You've Got Your Mind On Other
Things". 

Billy 


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Message: 6
   Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 18:12:00 -0000
   From: dzarem
Subject: Re: Reparata and the Delrons

There is a CD out of some of their material, plus some
Reparata solo songs from the 70s.

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Reparata & Delrons: Whenever A Teenager Cries        
Release Date: August 05, 1993


Track Listing:
01. Do Wah Diddy Diddy
02. Bye Bye Baby
03. If I Fell
04. That's How It All Began
05. He's The Greatest
06. He's My Guy
07. Dedicated To The One I Love
08. I Have A Boyfriend
09. Who Do You Love
10. Do You Remember When
11. In My Diary
12. Whenever A Teenager Cries
13. Shoes (Johnny & Louise)
14. The Loneliest Girl In Town
15. Summer Thoughts
16. Love For You And Me
17. Tommy
18. A Song For All


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Message: 7
   Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 00:17:54 +0100
   From: "Phil Chapman" 
Subject: I Have A Boyfriend - again!

Ron wrote:
>you MUST check out Reparata & The
>Delrons' version which can be found on their LP.

Ron, forgot to add that The Chiffons version does not
employ any 'sweeteners' (strings, orchestral additions etc)
which makes it sound more like your local high-school band
could have played it. R&D's "I Have A Boyfriend" is very
good, but they had to resort to strings for the bass-run,
and orchestral timps for the kick rhythm, and this, to use
a Martin Roberts-style description, is more like a stroll
through a stately home, rather than the playground assault
of The Chiffons.

I tend to agree with Don, Reparata & the girls achieved
immortality with Jeff Barry's "I'm Nobody's Baby Now" -
It's right up there with Debbie Rollins' "My Johnny
Doesn't Come Around" (when IS that going to show on CD?)


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Message: 8
   Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 12:59:33 EDT
   From:Brian Chidester
Subject: I Do

Following up the conversation about the "I Do" outside
production for Brian Wilson, I thought I'd note that
there is a good scrutinization of that song in the 3rd
Dumb Angel Gazette, written by Don Cunningham.  "I Do"
was originally "County Fair" from the SURFIN' SAFARI
album.  "County Fair" is an early example of Brian's use
of pictorial instrumentation in his arrangements, and is
a very underrated song.  In fact, Cunningham's review of
"I Do" is right on, but I kind of feel that he missed it
on "County Fair".

The Castells version of "I Do" is great, but Mike Love's
vocal on the BBs version is among the best he ever he. 
His voice is a bit lower and less nasaly.  With the
deeper tone in his voice, Brian's falsetto chorus sounds
even more heavenly.

Brian Chidester  


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Message: 9
   Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 09:27:15 +0900
   From: "LePageWeb" 
Subject: I Really Do

No, Not the Spectors Three song, although I'm sure I
Really Do is on Spectropop Radio...

So is "I Do" by the Castells.

However, I do believe the song Gregg heard was...

I Do by For Real from the Grace of My Heart OST.

I do hope this helps!


Jamie "dooby do dum dum" LePage
N.P. The Fleetwoods "Come Softly To Me"


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Message: 10
   Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 12:55:30 EDT
   From: Brian Chidester 
Subject: Flowerpot Men & Cryan Shames

Who are these groups?  A little info please?  Are they
Zekley projects?

> the Flowerpot Men (thanks Jack), the Cryan Shames.

Thanks,

Brian


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Message: 11
   Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 14:18:33 EDT
   From: aleecat
Subject: Re: Nitzsche

Knee-Chee


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Message: 12
   Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 08:35:11 -0400
   From: "Vlaovic B" 
Subject: Brill doc and Red Bird comp

>
>BTW- anybody have any info on that "Brill Building"
>documentary that was "supposed" to air this month on A&E????
>
>Ron

Not supposed, but actually happening...from the A&E
Website for August 27:

<>

The Week continues with biographies of Leiber & Stoller,
Bobby Darin, Dionne Warwick and Burt Bacharach....Better
set the VCRs to tape.

Other stuff...

I just picked up the Varese Red Bird compilation (God I
must have at least half a dozen Red Bird compilations on
CD and vinyl...)  Some surprises but two uncredited
tracks had me really surprised.  I believe one is the
Jelly Beans doing 'Do Wah Diddy', the other I dunno....A
sort of Ellie Greenwich vocal doing a rather Lesley
Gore-ish type track called (I assume), 'There could never
be another boy like mine'.  Any ideas?

Other stuff I'd like to know...Did Bessie Banks ever
record anything else.  Poor girl must've felt like hell
when the Moody BLues hit with 'Go Now!'.  Why did I never
know that the Veronica track 'Why Don't They let us Fall
in Love', eventually became the Dixie Cups 'Gee, the Moon
is Shining Bright'?

N


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Message: 13
   Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 13:28:54 -0400
   From: John Clemente
Subject: A&E Biography -- "Hitmakers"


Hello All,

The following was posted on the A&E website.  For all you
Neil Sedaka fans, there's plenty of footage of him in
this:

Biography Monday , August 27 8:00 PM-10:00 PM Hitmakers:
The Teens Who Stole Pop Music The story of the precocious
teenagers who went on to write some of the greatest hits
in rock'n'roll history. Viewers will discover how the
careers of Carole King, Neil Sedaka, Gerry Goffin, Barry
Mann, Cynthia Weil, and many others were launched. And
we'll hear over 40 of their hits in rare and classic
performances of the Righteous Brothers, the Ronettes, the
Shangri-Las, the Shirelles, and others in this 2-hour
special presentation. TV G

This two-hour special also airs at Midnight.  The other
bios for the week are Dionne Warwick, Bobby Darin, Leiber
& Stoller and Burt Bacharach.  I saw the sneak preview of
Hitmakers at the Radio & TV Museum in NYC on May 3 (and
got autographs in my book from Shadow Morton, Russ
Titelman and Mary Weiss)!!!!  Anyone listening to the
radio from 1957-67 will not want to miss this.  Check
local listings for time differences.


Regards,


John Clemente


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