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Bootlegs vs "Bootlegs" From: Doc Rock ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 13:17:14 EDT From: Brian Chidester Subject: Sandy Salisbury > Yes it was to be released on Together records in early > '69, before the Blue Marble and also Michele. Was there a number given to it? How about a track line-up? It wouldn't have had all 14 songs from the Dreamsville release on the LP, would it? > I haven't heard FALLING TO PIECES yet, but I think SANDY > is just a phenominal pop album. I've never heard him get > as punchy as he does on "Spell on Me" or "Goody Goodbye". SANDY is great, but FALLING TO PIECES retains all of the poppy elements, with some very personal gems. A very nice mix and a much better flow. In truth, I love every song on SANDY, but I find that the flow is really bad. I can't put my finger on why, but I feel it. Maybe that's why I thought it was just a collection of 45's and outtakes and not a planned album, as such. Honestly, I'm shocked that it was a planned album and am real curious to know if anyone has a track list or if a final master was assembled. > A bunch of great songs, maybe a tad gooey by today's > standards, Gooey = Good > but I think the album would have been a big hit at the > time had it been released and promoted correctly-- It > takes a lot of the production values and sounds that > were standard pop fare at the time and reworks them in > a stronger, more immediate way. Not quite BEGIN, but a > strong lp with a lot of merits. I don't think it takes itself half as serious as BEGIN does. BEGIN was to be revolutionary. Sandy himself said that his stuff was just Brian Wilson/Fleetwoods tributes, though I hear other influences as well. A little Michael Nesmith perhaps? Brian --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 03:40:57 -0400 From: "Mike Arcidiacono" Subject: Re: I Do "Gregg Luvox" wrote: > Can anyone provide info on the song 'I Do'? > > I heard a fantastic pop version on Spectropop Radio but I > can't remember the artist and can't find the song listed. "I Do"......sung by Brian Wilson and a group called The Survivors, who were studio guys that Brian used on early Beach Boy sessions before the Wrecking Crew. GREAT record, no hit!! Mikey --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 12:55:26 +0100 (BST) From: Mick Patrick Subject: TINA'S PHILLES ACETATE Greetings, Jamie wrote: > > PS Anyone out there wanna hear about TINA TURNER's > > unissued Philles version of EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN? > > Yes! This is one we have never discussed here as far as > I can recall. Do tell! OK Jamie, your wish is my command. Are you kneeling comfortably? Then I'll begin. Let me take you back to something my old friend Carole Gardiner wrote in 1979 in one of the old PHIL SPECTOR APPRECIATION SOCIETY Newsletters: "Our good friend Malcolm Baumgart was cruisin' for wax in the Notting Hill area of this fair city when he stumbled across a market stall selling records for 50p each. Amongst these was an acetate of TINA TURNER performing "EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN", which the stallholder claimed had once belonged to Mick Farren (NME scribe and ex-Deviant). The disc was pressed by Associated Recording Studios, 723 7th Avenue, at 48th Strreet (midtown Manhattan for tose who have never been there). As far as we know, this is the only copy of this record in existence. It is the same song as that recorded by Phil Spector with the Ronettes, and Tina puts on her best "I'll Never Need More Than This" voice. It's impossible to judge from the unfinished mix if the producer is Spector or Bob Crewe, but it is WITHOUT A DOUBT AN UNISSUED PHILLES MASTER! Tina takes the song at a slower pace than the Ronettes' version and the familiar "sh-doop, sh-doop" backing vocals are absent. Her voice is double-tracked in harmony throughout parts of the song and strings and backing vocalsts are featured to great effect. It starts off quietly and gradually builds to a "RIVER DEEP"-style climax, with Tina's voice joined by the brass section. The record ends with Tina repeating "I need and want you, baby" before a tremendous shriek of "BABY!". Stupendous stuff!!". Good old Carole, what a great and unique gal. There's more of this story to tell but the postman has just been and I can't wait another nanosecond to play my new COGICS LP. Gee, who's that on the front next to Gloria Jones? Why, it's none other than Darlene Love's baby sister EDNA WRIGHT wearing a massive "sandy" wig! Who's a lucky boy then? To be continued . . . MICK PATRICK --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 4 Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 16:02:41 +0000 From: "Donny Hampton" Subject: Re: Everything Under The Sun > > PS Anyone out there wanna hear about TINA TURNER's > > unissued Philles version of EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN? > >Yes! This is one we have never discussed here as far as >I can recall. Do tell! Not to rain on Mick Patrick's parade, but I remember Bob Crewe telling me that he produced that track with Tina Turner when I interviewed him several years ago. He was quite proud of it (deservedly so), and he regretted that it has never gained wide release. Don Charles --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 5 Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 10:08:50 +0100 (BST) From: Mick Patrick Subject: BOYFRIENDS Greetings from The Diane Christian Fan Club. Jamie wrote: > thanks for playing for us both the Crystals' "Please > Be My Boyfriend" and the Chic-Lets' "I Want You To Be > My Boyfriend". I'm sure for many of us it was the > first time to hear these. By the way, who wrote the > Chic-Lets record if not Jeff and Ellie? The Chic-lets' "I Want You To Be My Boyfriend" was written by Wally Zober and Bert Salmirs. This is one of my absolute favourite girl-group tracks, which is why my colleague Malcolm Baumgart and I included it on the CD...(massive plug coming!): GIRLS WILL BE GIRLS (Westside WESM 600, 1999). I'm surprised Spectropoppers are not familiar with this readily available legal CD. Perhaps if I informed you that it also contains A PREVIOUSLY UNISSUED TRACK BY THE CINDERELLAS, you might BUY rather than download! I rate this CD as one of the best I have ever been involved with. You'd be stunned if you knew how pathetic the sales figures are! Now you know why promoting bootlegs annoys the kack out of me! BTW "I W Y T B M Boyfriend" was originally recorded by THE SHIRELLES as the B-side of their first 45. MICK PATRICK --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 6 Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 15:09:56 -0400 From: Doc Rock Subject: Bootlegs vs "Bootlegs" As I understand it, many European and Asian bootlegs are actually legal. In the '50s and '60s, there were thousands of young Americans overseas in the service. They wanted rock and roll. But American companies weren't about to cater to that tiny market. So, overseas companies were given (sold) the rights to American top 40 material. Those rights have persisted, and been sold many times as overseas get bought and gobbled up. Now we have people who have no direct relation to the original recordings of the old overseas companies but who now own legitimate copies of master tapes of hits, flip sides, LP cuts, demos, alternate takes, etc. And can legally release them. This tangled, 30- to 40-year old web does little to get royalties to the artist, however. But many so-called bootlegs are thus technically legit, at least overseas. Importing them might be iffy. At least that's the story as I've always heard it. Doc --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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