http://www.spectropop.com ________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ Music Everywhere You Go Visit the updated Barry Mann/Cynthia Weil Page at Spectropop : History, new photos, introduction to Barry Mann compilation albums, thorough Brill Building era discography and more! Brill Tone CD - full liner notes and track listing. http://www.spectropop.com/go2/mannweil.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 4 messages in this issue of Spectropop. Topics in this Digest Number 213: 1. Marginal Crystals Collection From: "Tony Leong" 2. Jean Thomas Fox From: John Clemente 3. Diane Renay's new web site From: LePageWeb 4. The Wanderers From: John Clemente ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 03:51:33 -0000 From: "Tony Leong" Subject: Marginal Crystals Collection Hey Gang, I found a more interesting Crystals CD collection from Marginal. Besides containing a photo of the "He's A Rebel" LP cover, this collection (unlike the last) has 28 cuts!! The other one had a photo of the "Twist Uptown" LP and fewer tracks. Virtually ALL of their Philles tracks are on here, including the x-mas songs, and 2 from their United Artist period. Even a full version of "The Screw" is here, and I guess it's the Crystals at their unison 4 (??) part harmony best (Dee Dee is really up there with her soprano!!) Most of the cuts have good audio quality. One omission that I was disappointed about was the "Crystals" version of "Wah Wahtusi" (actually the Ronettes were the vocalists for that one, but they sang "Mashed Potato Time" too, and THAT was on this CD!!). Other Crystals cuts that have yet to surface on CD are "Please Be My Boyfriend" and the reported rough draft of La La's take of "It's My Party"--I'm sure we'll be able to hear those someday. And does anyone reading this know if the Crystals were the FIRST group to record "On Broadway"?? Tony Leong --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 01:07:53 -0400 From: John Clemente Subject: Jean Thomas Fox Hello All, If this message seems belated, it is because I've been on vacation and am now catching up on my mail. I wrote to Jean to ask her about her sessions with Ron Dante as part of the Archies. This is her response: > John, > > It's possible, but I can't remember. I did lots of > demos for Ron Dante, but I don't remember actually > doing an Archies session. It's possible some of our > demos were used on the album, but I'm not sure. > > Best, > > Jean Jean did a superb job on "Oh What A Night For Love" for the Lords of Flatbush soundtrack. She was asked by Brooks to record for the LP because she did jingles for him as did Jamie Carr, who also sang some cuts on the soundtrack. Jamie Carr is Billy Carr on Colpix (My Gidget). Regards, John --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 15:05:28 +0900 From: LePageWeb Subject: Diane Renay's new web site Mick and John mentioned Diane Renay's shiny new web site. Yep, and if you forget what the hook to Blue Navy Blue sounds like, well just go right over there and wait until the audio loop finishes loading to be reminded! After you get past that and the cool looking lake applet, you can't help but notice when scrolling around - Diane Renay was a stone cold knockout! The pics on her web site bear witness - Diane Renay may have been *the* most attractive white female vocalist of the era, and it's hard to imagine any guy not falling head-over-heels for her. Oh sure, she's darling enough in that sailor uniform, but check her out in civies hangin' with Jan and Dean, with the Stones, the Supremes, and at the pool with Bobby Rydell. She's *irresistable*. Not that I'm drooling over the keyboard here or anything, it's just that there is something about it...I'm not sure. I knew Blue Navy Blue of course, but I really only became familiar with her other material around the time Growing Up Too Fast came out. Don't know why. Never even knew what she looked like. But since then, I've spent considerable time thinking about her career. In fact, some members will remember that Diane Renay was actually a participating member herself of the Spectropop Group! Well, I took out my latest ish of Cha Cha Charming with that great Diane interview (you'll get a lot more on Diane from ChaCha #003 than from anything at her web site, btw), and I started thinking about her career. Again. Here are a few quotes from Diane: June 22, 1999 from Spectropop V#0278 > > I was under contract to Bob Crewe by the time the Four > Seasons recording "Big Girls Don't Cry" hit the top of > the charts. Renay implies here that her deal was with Crewe, not 20th Century Fox. Makes sense, after all Crewe did her records for other labels too. This follows an established pattern considering the following quote from "The Vee-Jay Story" by Mike Callahan and David Edwards > ...on August 13 , the Four Seasons filed suit > against Genius, Inc., the production firm headed by Bob > Crewe, for Vee Jay's nonpayment of royalties. (The Four > Seasons were technically not under contract to Vee Jay, > but to Genius, Inc. Crewe's company had the contract with > Vee Jay, so the group had to sue Crewe and Crewe had to > sue the label.) Now here's more from Diane on June 29, 1999 from Spectropop V#0282 > At this time, there are several CD's on the market > sold here [in US] and overseas, that have many of my > recordings on them, along with lots of other oldies, > and [neither] I nor any of the other artists are > receiving compensation in the form of royalties. Now we've read about recent court judgments granting compensation to oldies artists for uses not specified in the original contracts. For example, in one noted case the court ruled that when master rights owners license masters to third parties for use in oldies compilations, in lieu of contract language stating otherwise, the artist is entitled to 50 percent of the money. Experts have testified at these trials that half was the current "custom and practice" for sharing that kind of income. Now I don't really know why she isn't receiving compensation in the form of royalties, and whether it is because of something similar to the Four Seasons situation described above, but I do know that her CD on Collectables is a licensed release. So is Growin' Up Too Fast. Neither are bootlegs. In the Cha Cha Charming interview Diane gushes over Crewe, saying "He was the most incredibly handsome man...had this incredible charisma...exuded sexuality (to put it mildly).... Even until this day I have never met anyone as intriguing, handsome, mesmerizing or as talented as he was in his heyday...." Diane, who at the time was incredibly beautiful and apparently equally impressionable, says "I would often sleep in the guest room of his condo (at the Dakota)...we had a very special relationship." But then she clarifies: "we were not lovers ever, just the closest of friends." I don't know where all this is leading. Probably nowhere. It is just that since Diane was a member of Spectropop and spoke of Crewe in such high regard, I've wondered how Crewe, at the time, could have possibly resisted her charms. Won't you come out tonight? "If it was for Bob, I would have jumped through hoops of fire if he had asked me to." In spite of her being under-compensated in the form of artist royalties (or...otherwise), Renay's adoration survives today. Big Girls Don't Cry? Well, forget it. It's none of my business anyway. We were very lucky to have had Diane Renay as a guest on Spectropop, that's for sure. Good luck to her with the web site, and please don't think I am calling Bob Crewe names here either. Most significantly, none of this diminishes my love for the music Crewe and Renay made together. That's the important thing, and I guess I just wonder about the rest of it way too much. Jamie NP "Unbelievable Guy" - Diane Renay Diane Renay web site --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 4 Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 01:30:05 -0400 From: John Clemente Subject: The Wanderers Hello All, After reading the note on The Wanderers film, it brought back memories for me. That movie was filmed in various places in the Bronx, some shots on Fordham Road and some shots in the Pelham Parkway section. The opening sequence is on Fordham Road. The Valentine movie house and the Army recruitment center are no longer there. Neither is Alexander's department store. Even when the movie was filmed in 1978, the sign on top of the Alexander's building was missing part of the sign that used to read "Uptown, it's Alexander's. The Alexander's store on 149th Street had closed, so there was no more "downtown" in 1978, hence the removal of part of the sign. The "lost" scenes were filmed on Tremont Ave and Boston Road, which is further south than Fordham. Talley High School in the film is actually Christopher Columbus High School, located at the corner of Bronxwood and Waring Aves. which is about 2 miles northeast of Fordham Road. In the late 50s and early 60s, this school boasted the singing talents of The Dimensions (Over The Rainbow) and The Excellents (Coney Island Baby). I always thought it strange that they didn't film at Theodore Roosevelt HS, which is on Fordham Road across from Fordham University. Roosevelt was used in "A Bronx Tale". The housing project in the background scenes outside the high school is the Pelham Parkway Houses, where I grew up and lived at that time. When the movie was released in 1979, my friends and I ran to the theatre to see The Wanderers because everyone we knew that went to Columbus had parts in the movie as extras. Many famous people got their start or became more recognized in that film. Ken Wahl [Richie] went on to star in the successful TV series "Wiseguy"; Tony Ganios [Perry] did the "Porky's" films; Karen Allen [Nina] starred in "Raiders of The Lost Ark"; Linda Manz [Pee Wee] filmed "Days of Heaven" with Richard Gere; Alan Rosenberg [Turkey] starred in "LA Law" and "Cybil"; Dolph Sweet [Desby's Dad] starred in "Gimme A Break" with Nell Carter and Olympia Dukakis [Joey's mom] needs no references. Hey, I should be quiet now! Regards, John --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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