______________________________________________________ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ /s\ /p\ /e\ /c\ /t\ /r\ /o\ /p\ /o\ /p\ <___><___><___><___><___><___><___><___><___><___> ______________________________________________________ Volume #0066 04/12/98 ______________________________________________________ America's First Family of Fine RecordingsSubject: Re: Another Spin On Covers Sent: 4/11/98 5:02 AM Received: 4/11/98 8:43 AM From: BashPop, BashXXX@XXXXXXm To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com << Subject: Covers eclipsing the originals From: le_page_XXX@XXXXXXies.com Another spin on this thread: I was playing some Beatles discs recently when Ticket to Ride came on. I was asked "Did the Beatles record this Carpenters song?" Any other absurd misconceptions out there?>> Hi Jamie, Yeah, when I was a kid back in 1968, I think, I saw a variety show with Petula Clark as one of its guests. She sang "A Little Help From My Friends", a song which I'd never heard before. A few years later, when I heard the Beatles' version, my first response was "Wow, The Beatles did that song too?!" Man, did I have a lot to learn!!! -- Spectropop Rules!!!!! Take Care, David ---[ archived by Spectropop - 04 /11/98 - 09 :13:04 PM ]--- Subject: Re: Spectropop V#0065 Sent: 4/11/98 7:48 AM Received: 4/11/98 8:43 AM From: Doc Rock, docroXXX@XXXXXXom To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com Yes, "Sharing You" was on Little Eva's Locomotion LP. Doc ---[ archived by Spectropop - 04 /11/98 - 09 :13:04 PM ]--- Subject: Re: Spectropop V#0065 Lesley Gore Sent: 4/11/98 4:27 AM Received: 4/11/98 8:43 AM From: Billy G. Spradlin, bilXXX@XXXXXXe.net To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com At 03:25 AM 4/11/98 +0900, you wrote: >Now for this other weird thing: I already had the Mercury >single-disc "Golden Hits of Lesley Gore" cd. My favoritest >LG song of alltimes is "What Am I Gonna Do With You." Well >sir, that song is also on this 2-disc set, but it's in a >radically different mix; the single-disc version is better I >think, instruments more up front and the voice centered in >the stereo mix, and more correctly balanced in relation to >the instruments. On the 2-disc set, though, the stereo mix >is more extremely panned left and right, the instruments are >more recessed, and the voice is in the right channel and >kind of harsh sounding. What's up with these two different >mixes? I believe that the "Golden Hits" version is a ADD remix from the original 3-4 track masters. Its one of the few times that I have heard a ADD remix actually improved on the original version. I bet the version on the 2-CD set is the original LP mix. Her voice sounds like it was recorded in a restroom! I love that song too, it should have been released as a single. Another weird thing is that there are two different versions of "Look of Love". One version is very Spector-ish with sleigh bells, handclaps and more compression and reverb that appeared on the original "Golden Hits" LP. It also sounds like someone sped the pitch up too. The other version is a much cleaner sounding version without the sleigh bells, compression, pitch control etc. and it appears on the "Golden Hits" CD! One wish for us 4-Seasons fans...A Singles collection with all the MONO mixes of the original hits! (and for someone to find "Ronnie" and "Huggin My Pillow" in stereo too!)   Billy G. Spradlin E-mail: bilXXX@XXXXXXe.net ICQ:2039627   29 Rim Road Homepage: http://www.tyler.net/wildbill   Kilgore, Texas 75662 IRC: Wild`Bill in #Bob's_Tavern (Efnet)   ---[ archived by Spectropop - 04 /11/98 - 09 :13:04 PM ]--- Subject: What Am I Gonna Do With You Sent: 4/11/98 9:27 PM Received: 4/11/98 10:43 PM From: le_page_XXX@XXXXXXies.com To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com Jack wrote: >My favoritest LG song of alltimes is "What Am I Gonna Do >With You" (from "Golden Hits of Lesley Gore")...also on this >2-disc set, but in a radically different mix... "What Am I Gonna Do With You" is my absolute favorite Lesley Gore recording too. I just love the "Hey, baby" bits at the end of the verses. Without checking credits, I swore this was an L.A. recording, string arrangement is Nitzsche or a perfect simulation thereof, and it sounds to me like Gold Star and the Wrecking Crew. When I checked the 2-disc set liners, it said New York and Claus Ogermann, so I suddenly lost confidence. Until then, I swore this was Nitzsche and Gold Star. The liners mention that several months after My Town... Pet went to L.A. to record with Nitzsche, but Off & Running (btw Mindbenders too recorded a great version of this) does not sound like Spector-era Gold Star. "What Am I Gonna Do With You" does. It shares common elements with "Expecting To Fly" by Buffalo Springfield, "Baby That's Me" by the Cake and "You'll Be Needing..." by Nino & April. Or am I imagining all this? Another strange credit on the 2-disc set is Ogermann as arranger on My Town My Guy & Me, which on the single disc is credited as arranged by Don Costa, an L.A. arranger I believe. Now, if "after" My Town Lesley went to L.A., but if Costa and Nitzsche worked on the My Town recordings, then what gives? Finally, regarding the mixes, I can only guess that the Golden Hits CD is a remix, because on the back it says "mastered from the original 2, 03 & 4 track master tapes." The 2-disc set is probably the original mix. -- le_page_XXX@XXXXXXies.com RodeoDrive/5030 ---[ archived by Spectropop - 04 /11/98 - 09 :13:04 PM ]--- Subject: Re: cover versions Sent: 4/11/98 10:20 AM Received: 4/11/98 9:53 PM From: Big L, biXXX@XXXXXXmail.com To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com >>Good ( and Fun) cover versions, well the list could go on forever but here's a start : 1. Over and Over/DC5 2. You Got What It Takes/DC5 3. Words Of Love/Beatles 4. Roll Over Beethoven/Beatles 5. Do You Wanna Dance/Beach Boys 6. My World Fell Down/Sagittarius 7. Dedicated To The One I Love/Mamas& Papas 8. Iko Iko/Dr. John 9 Younger Girl/The Critters 10. Little Honda/The Hondells 11. You Showed Me/The Turtles 12. The River Is Wide/The Grassroots 13. Laugh At Me/Mott The Hoople 14. Nobody But Me/The Human Beinz 15. Sugar & Spice/The Cryan Shames 16. Just Like Romeo & Juliet/Michael & The Messengers 17. Love Potion # Nine/The Searchers. 18. Hush/Deep Purple 19. Summertime Blues/Blue Cheer 20. Don't Think Twice It's All Right/The Wonder Who I will accept #1, 02 , 05 , 07 , 15, 18 & 19 as fitting my definition of a "stand alone" cover. I didn't know #6, 11, 14 & 20 were covers. I am not familiar with #8 and 13. I feel that as far as #12, the version by Forum was far superior, actually high on my list of all time favorites. That thing just rocks. It wasn't a major hit, but the station I was listening to, WKYC, played it incessantly. Another case of Big Jack Armstrong taking a song he dug and pushing it up to hit status I have mixed feelings about #4. It was a great version, but seems to me to be a little too close to the original to qualify as "stand alone." #9, 10 & 17 sound to me very close to the original. Now, I will add: You Keep Me Hangin' On - Vanilla Fudge == Big L Check out my Radio Legends pages at: biXXX@XXXXXXmail.com http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/9816 ---[ archived by Spectropop - 04 /11/98 - 09 :59:01 PM ]--- Subject: Re: Dusty Springfield Sent: 4/11/98 9:15 AM Received: 4/11/98 9:53 PM From: Marc Wielage, XXX@XXXXXXrax.com To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com JohnBarone <beachbXXX@XXXXXXmail.com> wrote: >Don't know if this is old news here at Spectropop but I see >that Mercury is finally releasing Dusty Springfield-The Very >Best of, the week of April 21, on cd. Been holding out from >buying one of those expensive imports. ------------------------<snip>------------------------ The Mercury DUSTY SPRINGFIELD ANTHOLOGY 3-disc boxed set has been out in the U.S. for at least six months, on Mercury 314-553 5301-2. My understanding is that the VERY BEST OF disc is just a distillation of the 3-disc set. It's cheaper, but it omits several significant songs. Note, by the way, there are at least two phasey and/or fake- stereo tracks on the Mercury set: "Losing You" and "Wishin and Hopin'," which is very annoying. I suspect these same mistakes will be on the new Mercury single disc collection. --MFW -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -= Marc Wielage | "The computerized authority =- -= MusicTrax, Ltd. | on rock, pop, & soul." =- -= Chatsworth, CA | XXX@XXXXXXrax.com =- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ---[ archived by Spectropop - 04 /11/98 - 09 :59:01 PM ]--- Subject: Re: Girl Watchin' Sent: 4/11/98 12:12 PM Received: 4/11/98 9:53 PM From: Paulurbahn, PaulurbXXX@XXXXXXm To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com In a message dated 98-04-10 14:34:12 EDT, you write: << Then you'd want to get Love Power: Hard to Find U.S. Hot 100 Hits of the 60s (Sequel 669), which has it in stereo. >> Yes but the stereo version, If memory serves me has a guitar break (solo) that is not on the hit mono version. Or is it the other way around. PaulurbXXX@XXXXXXm Paul Urbahns ---[ archived by Spectropop - 04 /11/98 - 09 :59:01 PM ]--- Subject: Re: Lesley Gore 2 cd set Sent: 4/11/98 12:10 PM Received: 4/11/98 9:53 PM From: Paulurbahn, PaulurbXXX@XXXXXXm To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com In a message dated 98-04-10 14:34:12 EDT, you write: << Now for this other weird thing: I already had the Mercury single-disc "Golden Hits of Lesley Gore" cd. >> Jack, You will notice the song Look Of Love on the two Cd set is the original hit single in stereo with the sleigh bell overdub, whereas I believe the Golden Hits had the LP version without the overdub. To me the overdub makes the song. Paul URbahns paulurbXXX@XXXXXXm ---[ archived by Spectropop - 04 /11/98 - 09 :59:01 PM ]--- Subject: Re: Cover Versions Sent: 4/11/98 10:12 PM Received: 4/12/98 9:37 AM From: Doc Rock, docroXXX@XXXXXXom To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com RE: Cover Versions. While Pat Boone is called the Cover Artist, in fact only 60 of his 105 Billboard hits were covers, and those were early in his career. Compare that to Elvis, who covered endlessly, from the Blue Moons and "Hound Dog," right up to "Kentucky Rain" and "Suspicious Minds." Even when songs were written for Elvis, he covered Demos by PJ Proby, who imitated Elvis perfectly, and laid out the vocal arrangments for EP on the demos. Often Elvis just added his voice to PJs demo track. So the King of Rock and Roll is also the King of Cover Versions! Doc ---[ archived by Spectropop - 04 /12/98 - 10:59:01 AM ]--- Subject: Re: The Philadelphia Dimension continues... Sent: 4/11/98 10:12 PM Received: 4/12/98 9:37 AM From: Doc Rock, docroXXX@XXXXXXom To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com >After Doc wrote that the Dimension recordings were actually >demos for Philadelphia artists, Well, that's not EXACTLY what I said. Lou Adler told me that all of the COOKIES records were demos that did not get picked up. And not all Dimension songs were aimed at PHILLY artists anyway. "It Might As Well Rain Until September" which was written for Bobby Vee in the "Take Good Care of My Baby" style. But other than those details, you really are right! I am sure that other Dimension records were demos, like the Vee record, and that most were pitched in Philly! Never thought of it just that way -- thanks! Doc ---[ archived by Spectropop - 04 /12/98 - 10:59:01 AM ]--- End
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