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Spectropop - Digest Number 199

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There are 12 messages in this issue of Spectropop.

Topics in this Digest Number 199:

      1. Re: Kenny Karen
           From: Al Quaglieri 
      2. All Gene, All the Time
           From: "James F.  Cassidy" 
      3. Italianlanguage self-covers
           From: Frank 
      4. new Ronnie Spector record
           From: Paul Woods
      5. Keith--one last note
           From: Dan Hughes
      6. Re: Francoise at Musica
           From: Frank 
      7. "Et Meme"
           From: Jimmy Crescitelli
      8. French Pop
           From: Glynis Ward
      9. RAI documentary
           From: Tom Waters
     10. Re: Alan Betrock
           From: "Donny Hampton" 
     11. Re: Caravan Of Lonely Men
           From: "Donny Hampton" 
     12. Treasures of Ian Chapman
           From: Michael Godin 


Message: 1
   Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 10:50:45 -0400
   From: Al Quaglieri
Subject: Re: Kenny Karen

Dan Hughes wrote:

 >I have a Columbia 45 rpm record, 04 -42264, complete
 >with picture sleeve, by Kenny Karen.
 >Side 1:  Oh, Susie Forgive Me, written by Mann & Weil
 >Side 2:  The Light In Your Window, written by King,
 >Goffin, and A. Ripp
 >Both sides arranged and conducted by Alan Lorber, and
 >produced by Nevins-Kirshner Associates, Inc.

Kenny Karen's Oh, Susie Forgive Me is one of the most
hilarious teen death records ever made. Mann & Weil
must've laughed for two weeks solid when they wrote it.

You gotta hear this one!

Al Q.

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Message: 2
   Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 10:08:41 -0400
   From: "James F.  Cassidy"
Subject: All Gene, All the Time

Following up on Ted T's post that mentioned Gene Pitney,
Gene has a pretty good Web site:

If you can get past the splash page photo (Gene's
expression looks like a 3-year-old after someone took
his lollipop away), you can listen to about 100 MP3
clips of his stuff, including many obscure items.

Jim Cassidy

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Message: 3
   Date: Mon, 02 Jul 01 07:42:00 +0100
   From: Frank 
Subject: Italianlanguage self-covers

> Just last night I turned on the Italian TV network RAI
> Due and was stupefied to see a documentary featuring,
> among others, GENE PITNEY...the program featured very
> clear, well-preserved clips of him doing a live duet
> with Italian icon Little Tony, and also doing a solo
> number in Italian. For a special treat, the show also
> unearthed a priceless 1960s clip of Neil Sedaka, singing
> in Italian and really juking and jumping all over the
> set.
> Judging from these samples, the RAI TV archives must be
> packed with similar high-quality treasures. Let's hope
> they'll be preserved, unearthed and made available some
> day.

All the more so since most of the major US artists
recorded their hits in Italian. Something Pitney did
even more regularly than others. I even have an
incredible Motown LP featuring a sort of best of by
their most popular artists, from Stevie Wonder to The
Supremes, The Four Tops, etc... all singing in Italian.


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Message: 4
   Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 09:43:25 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
   From: Paul Woods 
Subject: new Ronnie Spector record

David said:

> Ronnie plays Tina to Andre Williams's Ike in their
> newly released duet of the Turners' classic "It's
> Gonna Work Out Fine." 

That's such good news! wasn't actually Ike
who sang on the Turners' "It's Gonna Work out Fine",
was it?


Paul Woods,
Assistant Librarian, Social Sciences,   
Arts & Social Sciences Library, 
University of Bristol Information Services,
Tyndall Avenue, 
Bristol BS8 1TJ. 
Home Page:


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Message: 5
   Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 06:35:32 -0500
   From: Dan Hughes
Subject: Keith--one last note

Many thanks to John Clemente for his mention of the Dead
Rock Stars site.

Last week I mistakenly said here that Keith had died last
year.  Well, it was really Oliver (Good Morning Starshine
and Jean) who I was remembering.  Hey, a one-name artist
whose songs were easy on the ears--you can see how easy
it is to confuse the two, right?  Right??

It was Oliver, not Keith, who died of cancer in Feb 2000.
Glad I found that entry--it was driving me nuts trying to
remember who I was thinking of if it wasn't Keith.


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Message: 6
   Date: Mon, 02 Jul 01 07:41:59 +0100
   From: Frank 
Subject: Re: Francoise at Musica

Just listened to the track, Ian. True, the backing is
definitely Spector influenced, but my remarks about
Francoise relating to the Spector sound was meant more
as a general impression  of her own sound. She always
sounded so aloof and hardly involved (at least to me)
that I always had real difficulty linking her with the
earnest Phil Spector Wall Of Sound. 

But you are right on this track.



>Must admit the current "is there/isn't there" discussion
>regarding the question of a Spector influence on selected
>Francoise tracks leaves me somewhat bemused, but may I
>direct readers to "However Much" (the English-
>language version of "Et Meme"). I'm aware that sometimes
>the terms "girl-group-influenced" and "Spector-influenced"
>don't always mean the same thing, but for me those
>jangling pianos and drum fills are a clear homage to "Da
>Doo Ron Ron".  I'd be interested to hear other opinions.

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Message: 7
   Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 11:42:40 EDT
   From: Jimmy Crescitelli 
Subject: "Et Meme"


yah, very true for me too. I heard "Et Meme" via a mutual
friend of ours back in the 70s when this all began. Those
jangling pianos, the dramatic intro, the handclaps... we
called it "the French Da Doo Ron Ron."  ; )  

Phil touches all...


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Message: 8
   Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 19:45:46 -0400
   From: Glynis Ward 
Subject: French Pop


It's WONDERFUL to hear you talk about such great French
pop. Nobody mentions Nicoletta amongst the favorite trend
in French girly pop. I really like her solo stuff and am
interested in hearing her more "rock" oriented late 60's
stuff when she had her own rock band. I don't know if they
recorded but I have photos of her in my French pop
magazines. Stone was amazing. France's own Brian Jones

Is there anyone out in Spectropop-land who knows about
other non-American or non-British female who recorded in
this style?!



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Message: 9
   Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 00:32:37 -0400
   From: Tom Waters
Subject: RAI documentary

To Ted T or whoever else may know:

Could you please tell me what the name of the Italian
documentary was which featured clips of Gene Pitney and
Neil Sedaka?  As these are two of my favourite singers, I
would love to see it.  Do you know if it will be repeated?
I had RAI on last night and saw a black and white clip of
a woman singing with large toy soldiers.  I guess this
must have been the show.  Although I was a little
intrigued, I figured they were only showing clips of
Italian singers I would not recognize.  I regret now that
I turned it off so quickly. 


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Message: 10
   Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 15:54:31 -0000
   From: "Donny Hampton" 
Subject: Re: Alan Betrock

John Clemente wrote:

>Now I find it is over a year
>since Alan's passing.  This man made such a tremendous
>contribution to American pop, not only for his
>documentation of GG music...

> > His 1982 book, "Girl Groups: The Story of a Sound," was
> > lauded by the critic Robert Palmer in The Times as
> > "everything a rock 'n' roll genre study should be."

Is there any chance of Alan Betrock's classic GIRL GROUPS
book being reissued?  It's an invaluable source of
information.  I've referenced my copy so often over the
years, it's in horrible condition.  Forget about
"dog-eared" - it looks like dogs have been at it!

Don Charles

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Message: 11
   Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 16:00:36 -0000
   From: "Donny Hampton" 
Subject: Re: Caravan Of Lonely Men

"Martin Roberts" wrote:
> >
> > [Keith] started with a band called the Admirations in
> > the early 60s, recording one single for Columbia
> > Records, "Caravan of Lonely Men".
>I have two other versions of this early Jeff Barry
>co-wr song, the earliest from '62 The Lafayettes
>featuring Frank Bonarrigo RCA 47-8082 prod. Hugo &
>Luigi.... The other is on Agon 1011 by
>The Lovers, similiar up tempo Latin flavoured doo wop
>but with full vocal backing.

The original and best version of this song was produced
by Jeff Barry himself in 1962 for Carlton Records.  The
artist is Tony Richards, better known as Tony
Passalacqua, a much-underrated vocalist who recorded at
least six early Jeff Barry compositions.  Flipside of
the single is a wonderful little thing called "Wind-up
Toy," also written by Jeff.

Don Charles

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Message: 12
   Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 16:53:00 -0700
   From: Michael Godin 
Subject: Treasures of Ian Chapman

Hi Folks,

I wanted to let you know that beginning next weekend,
frequent contributor to Spectropop, Ian Chapman,  will
be hosting a new feature on my radio show, Treasure
Island Oldies. "Ian Chapman's Girl Groups", will
spotlight and tell the story behind a different girl
group song  every week. I am very excited that Ian has
decided to become part of Treasure Island Oldies, now
in its 5th year on the Internet. Hope you can listen
in; the feature will be in the 3rd hour of the show.

Michael Godin
Treasure Island Oldies

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