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There are 9 messages in this issue of Spectropop.

Topics in this Digest Number 190:

      1. Egyptian Shumba on CD
           From: Doc Rock 
      2. Phil S. Article
           From: Christopher Davidson 
      3. Re: Classic Pop
           From: Will George 
           From: Mick Patrick 
      5. Re: Classic Lifts
           From: "LePageWeb" 
      6. Eric Carmen - "All By Myself"
           From: "Scott Bauman" 
      7. Other "thefts"
           From: "David Mirich, Ph.D."
      8. Radio Stations
           From: Doc Rock 
      9. Rex Bob
           From: Dan Hughes 


Message: 1
   Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 22:12:19 -0400
   From: Doc Rock
Subject: Egyptian Shumba on CD

The 1994 CD "Land of 1,000 Dunces" features the Shumba
(my all-time fave GG track) on cut 4.


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Message: 2
   Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:43:30 -0700 (PDT)
   From: Christopher Davidson
Subject: Phil S. Article

Has anyone else seen this article?,8599,57615,00.html


Chris Davidson
CAD Records

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Message: 3
   Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:56:45 EDT
   From: Will George 
Subject: Re: Classic Pop

> ....What other classical songs have been used in pop
> songs?........

I have (on tape) two songs by Van Doren called "Surfin'
Liza" and "Huntington Beach." They are pretty direct
lifts, albeit surf-ized, from Beethoven's "Fur Elise" and
Wagner's opera "Lohengrin." Pretty cool actually. 

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Message: 4
   Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 20:34:20 +0100 (BST)
   From: Mick Patrick 



The Toys' "Lovers Concerto" being an obvious example, my
colleague Malcolm Baumgart and I have rather a penchant
for girl-group tracks based on classical pieces. Here are
a few nice ones that we have been able to use on some of
the CDs we have compiled.....

LORRAINE & THE DELIGHTS "I Just Couldn't Say" (on the
"Kiss'n'Tell" CD - Ace CDCHD330). This is great - imagine
the Ronettes singing "Madam Butterfly"!

DIANE & ANNITA "Groovy Kind Of Love" (on "Where The Girls
Are" Vol 2 CD - Ace CDCHD 711). The original version. The
tune is the same as the Rondo of Sonata Opus 36 Number 5
by Clementi.

"Where The Girls Are" Vol 4 CD Ace CDCHD 802).

RENEE ST CLAIR "My Hero" (on "Girls Will Be Girls" CD
Westside WESM 600). Song is from the Oscar Straus
operetta "The Chocolate Soldier".

THE BOBBETTES "Moon Of Love" (on "Here Come The Girls"
Vol 7 CD Sequel NEMCD 752). Based on Beethoven's
"Moonlight Sonata". Fab disc.

And here are a few others which all meet with my seal of
approval, for what that's worth.....

LESLIE MILLER "Mountain Of Our Love" (RCA). 
THE SHANGRI-LAS "Past, Present & Future" (Red Bird). 
THE APOLLAS "My Soul Concerto" (Loma). 
LESLEY GORE "Just Let Me Cry" (Mercury). GREAT. Same tune
as "Song Of India" by Rimsky-Korzakov.

Before I slope off to defrost something delicious for my
tea, can any Spectropopper tell me anything about my
current fave singer JUNE ADAMS?? She made a few 45s for
Roulette in the mid-60s with Teddy Vann in the producers
chair. I'm gagging for some biographical info or a
picture. Someone impress me.



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Message: 5
   Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 06:26:03 -0000
   From: "LePageWeb"
Subject: Re: Classic Lifts

Andrew Hickey wrote:
> > Shame on Eric for not giving credit....
> He did. The sheet music credits it to 'Carmen/Rachmaninov'


BMI data base lists:

1. ALL BY MYSELF BMI Work #20362
Writers                      Current Affil.      CAE #
CARMEN ERIC                  BMI                 62439873
Publishers                   Current Affil.      CAE # 
ERIC CARMEN MUSIC            BMI                 203875281
UNIVERSAL SONGS OF POLYGRAM  BMI                 353265272

The absence of his name could reflect that Rachmaninov
works are in the public domain now. The Japanese
registration looks like this:


This indicates some claim by Rachmaninov at some point

So, the question is, was this an approved adaptation in
the first place or did Rachmaninov estate take action
against Carmen and Arista when they discovered it? Just
curious if anyone knows the story, should there be one...

Phil wrote:

> For a memorable experience take a listen to Eartha
> Kitt's 6 1/2 minute version of "All By Myself" - If
> only it was The Shangri-Las with Shadow Morton:-)

A memorable experience indeed! LOL! If not the Shangs,
how about Richard Harris?!?

Thanks for that. It made my day! :-)


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Message: 6
   Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 23:15:59 -0700
   From: "Scott Bauman" 
Subject: Eric Carmen - "All By Myself"

Jamie wrote:

> Well, exactly one century before to be nitpicky about it.
> The second movement from Rachmaninov's 'Piano Concerto No.
> 2'is surely one of the most universally recognized
> melodies ever. Rather odd that the Rachmaninov estate
> didn't sue the pants off Carmen for it. Rachmaninov died
> in 1945. At the time "All By Myself" was a hit (1976),
> Rachmaninov works were still in copyright.  Interesting
> topic.

Jamie, the reason that the Rachmaninov Estate didn't "sue
the pants off Carmen" is because they reached an
agreement with Carmen whereby they receive a portion of
the publishing.  (I know since I used to work for Eric
Carmen's publisher.)

-- Scott

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Message: 7
   Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 07:01:05 -0600
   From: "David Mirich, Ph.D." 
Subject: Other "thefts"

This is the most musically sophisticated group on the
planet.   I appreciate the education you all gave me
regarding the Eric Carmen question (and I am tickled to
find out that he actually did give credit to Rachmoninov!!).

We all know about George Harrison copying "He's So Fine"
note for note.  What are other examples of blatant
"lifting" of songs or segments of songs?  I can start us
out by pointing to the hit song from 1973 called "Hooked
On A Feeling" by Blue Swede.  There is a segment that
goes "A oooga, Chaca ooooga ooooga ooooga, Chaca ooooga
ooooga ooooga ........"  This group must have gotten
their hands on a Brian Wilson Smile session bootleg
tape where this section was lifted.

Dave Mirich

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Message: 8
   Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:35:45 -0400
   From: Doc Rock 
Subject: Radio Stations

Bruce and Terry sang "Fabulous KIMN" in 1964.

WHB in Kansas City had an impressionist stick their DJs
names into Hillbilly Heaven in place of the cowboys'
names, and got sued. They ended up playing only the first
2 thirds of the record after that.


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Message: 9
   Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 06:38:51 -0500
   From: Dan Hughes
Subject: Rex Bob

Warren asks,
> any list member know a song by (or called) "Rex
> Bob Lowenstein" which is all about a travelling dj?

I have a friend with whom I exchange cassettes of strange
and obscure songs, and a few years ago he sent me that
song.  I can't remember the artist, but I'm sure he knows.
I'll send him a note and ask him about that song.


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