________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ May be played on monophonic or stereophonic equipment ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 6 messages in this issue of Spectropop. Topics in this Digest Number 187: 1. Jackie DeShannon demos From: "Phil Chapman" 2. Dee Dee, Peggy/Jessica/Tiffany, and Eddie (is that legal?) From: "Spector Collector" 3. Dee Dee Kenniebrew From: Jimmy Crescitelli 4. Re: Hoh, Hoh, Hoh & Hoh boy From: "Cheryl Jennings" 5. Eric Carmen From: "David Mirich, Ph.D." 6. Re: Sugar Sugar From: "Mike Arcidiacono" ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:29:56 +0100 From: "Phil Chapman" Subject: Jackie DeShannon demos Listening to some Jackie DeShannon demos that are in circulation, I noticed that her versions of "Jimmy Baby" and "I Shook The World" are sung over the same backing track & backing vocals as on the Bob B Soxx & Blue Jeans album. There are some other titles that have that early Spector/Nitzsche/Gold Star sound, including "My Heart Keeps Hangin' On" which has some very familiar sounding backing vocals. Does anybody know the story here? --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 04:27:52 -0000 From: "Spector Collector" Subject: Dee Dee, Peggy/Jessica/Tiffany, and Eddie (is that legal?) Three topics today, friends: First, continuing the thread about Dee Dee Kenniebrew and her modern-day Crystals: John Clemente said he'd heard that one of them is Dee Dee's daughter. I just found a site for Dee Dee and these Crystals at http://www.thecrystals.net/ and no mention is made of this, which seems to rule out the theory as far as I'm concerned. Also worth noting are the fact that they have a T-shirt for sale there, as well as a proprietary release of the recent CD, much maligned on this list, of their late-'90s rehashes of their classic material (and a few other selections). The version you can buy from them has the same cover as the one that Ton Borsboom pointed us to at CDNOW in digest 184, but is called "All Class" (it doesn't specify which class) rather than "The Crystals" (and it's not on the Park South label either), so it's probably the more collectible (but also more expensive) choice regardless of one's opinion of the content. It's already been mentioned here that the same material was released in England in 1999 as "Then He Kissed Me" on the PNEC label, with the cover featuring a shot of the younger, "real" Crystals, but for the sake of completionism (you'd never believe that I'm an editor, huh?), I should mention a U.S. 12" single released at that time on the Dancefloor label (number 9905). It has five tracks that are identical to their CD versions, but leads off with the otherwise-unavailable dance mix of "Then He Kissed Me." I don't know if this is still available or not, but in case any of y'all want to try, here's the info on the label: Dancefloor Distribution, 77-99 W. Sheffield Ave., Englewood, NJ 07631; ph (201) 568-7066; fx (201) 568-8699. I've written Dee Dee with a couple of questions whose answers Spectropoppers should find interesting, so assuming that she responds, this is where you'll find the scoop. Continuing with the "unearthing rare Peggy Santiglia (etc.)" thread, I recently acquired a Bear Family CD containing a previously unreleased German version of The Angels' "The Hurdy Gurdy Man" ("The Hully Gully Man," as it turns out auf Deutsch). I don't know how many other CDs are in this series featuring American and British singers doing their songs in German, or what tracks are on them (if anyone does, please share), but this is volume three. The overall series title is "1000 Nadelstiche," and this volume's subtitle is "Twist & Hully Gully," with the catalog number 16450. Finally, to clear up Jamie's confusion at Carol Kaye's joke about "Tiny Bubbles": she was referring to the Don Ho hit of that name when inquiring, tongue in cheek, whether Eddie Hoh had a brother named Don. Good one, Carol! David A. Young --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:48:35 EDT From: Jimmy Crescitelli Subject: Dee Dee Kenniebrew She truly IS a survivor!! Figure she's been touring since 1961 at the very earliest? That's 40 years!! From what I've read, she's the Crystal who gave Spector the most lip, and she's the Crystal survivor of today... I've heard her in person (with her new girls) twice in the past 15 years or so, down here in Florida in small-- shall we say-- clubs. [Yes, Tony, I have pictures!] She kinda growled through "Da Doo Ron Ron," singing it the same way she does in that public TV oldies show. To me it will always be La La's song, though... that kid could ROCK. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 03:02:57 -0500 From: "Cheryl Jennings" Subject: Re: Hoh, Hoh, Hoh & Hoh boy I just joined this group after a friendly soul emailed me about the Eddie Hoh string. I knew Eddie and he was a well known road & studio drummer in the 60's. When I first met him he was with the MFQ, latter he was with the Mamas & Papas, Gene Clark Group, worked with Tim Buckley, Harvey Mandel, Charlie Musselwhite, Donovan, was on the Bloomfield-Kooper-Stills Super Session, on the first Flying Burrito Brothers album and many Monkees sessions. Sometime in 1969 or 1970 he went to northern California with Dino Valente to work on a new group and had kind of breakdown there and never could get himself back together. He went home to live with his family in Illinois. He was a super guy, well respected and loved by everybody he knew. Check out Eddie Hoh on All Music Guide: http://18.104.22.168/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=R87280#APPEAR With the Gene Clark Group- http://ebni.com/byrds/memgc3.html On a Jerry Yester site there is a photo of Eddie Hoh - http://www.tctv.ne.jp/members/m-site/jerryyester/
but the line up should read, from left to right- Cyrus Faryar, Henry "Tad" Diltz, Eddie Hoh, Chip Douglas and Jerry Yester. There is also a photo of Eddie on the Supper Sessions LP. I haven't heard the recently released CD of Dino Valente's that was recorded in 1969- 70 but it wouldn't surprise me if he was on some of those tracks. Eddie was always working and in demand in those days, both in the studio and on the road. Cheryl Jennings --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 5 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 03:26:58 -0600 From: "David Mirich, Ph.D." Subject: Eric Carmen Although probably not directly related to 60s Spectropop, I heard a song on the Colorado Public Radio classical station (KVOD) today at 11:30 that I feared was an adaptation of Eric Carmen's "All by Myself." I called them later in the day to find if they knew what song was played at 11:30 but was told by a young staffer that they did not "write down" the songs they played. I would be pretty sure this station would never play anything apart from the classics (having listened to it for many years). Therefore, I must assume that Eric lifted the song -- melody, chorus and all, from a classical composition written a few centuries before. Dave Mirich
--------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 6 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:20:14 -0700 From: "Mike Arcidiacono" Subject: Re: Sugar Sugar Can anyone tell me who the Girl Session singer was who purred "Im Gonna Make Your life So Sweet" on the Archies "Sugar Sugar"?? thanks, mike --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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