http://www.spectropop.com ________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ Enjoy the complete musical definition of instruments ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 12 messages in this issue of Spectropop. Topics in this Digest Number 163: 1. Send Jeff and Ellie to Cleveland! From: "Donny Hampton" 2. re: Brill Buidling doc From: "Bates, Robert (Cahners-NYC)" 3. Long Live The Shangri-Las! From: Ron Buono 4. Re: Ellie Greenwich From: "Donny Hampton" 5. Nino & April's All Strung Out From: Steven Prazak 6. Nino Tempo & April Stevens From: Lindsay 7. Dr Jon (he's a medicine man) From: "Charles G. Hill" 8. Re: The Hobbits From: James Botticelli 9. Back to Mono From: "Mark Harris" 10. Paul Williams tribute From: "Bates, Robert (Cahners-NYC)" 11. Re: Digest Number 144 From: Al Quaglieri 12. Hal Blaine From: "Donny Hampton" ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 20:07:38 -0000 From: "Donny Hampton" Subject: Send Jeff and Ellie to Cleveland! Not to beat a dead horse, but just to make sure that everybody at SPECTROPOP knows about this . . . Please support a petition drive to get legendary Brill Building songwriters Jeff Barry and Ellie Greenwich nominated and inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame! Their classic hits include "Leader Of The Pack," "Chapel Of Love," "Be My Baby," "Doo-Wah-Diddy," "Hanky Panky," "Then He Kissed Me," "Da Doo Ron Ron," "River-Deep, Mountain-High," "Tell Laura I Love Her" and "I Honestly Love You." Their songs, as recorded by The Crystals, The Ronettes, Darlene Love, The Dixie Cups, The Shangri-Las, The Chiffons, The Exciters and Lesley Gore, helped define the girl group craze of the early 1960s, and since the '70s have appeared in scores of prime time TV shows as well as blockbuster movies like Four Weddings and A Funeral, What's Love Got To Do With It, Forrest Gump and Dirty Dancing. Jeff and Ellie were the driving force, not only behind the success of Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller's Red-Bird Records, but also much of the output of Phil Spector's legendary Philles Records. They discovered Neil Diamond and produced such memorable hits for him as "Cherry, Cherry" and "Thank The Lord For The Night Time," thus launching his stellar recording and touring career, and in the late '60s, Jeff Barry's production company placed such unforgettable hits on the charts as Bobby Bloom's "Montego Bay," Andy Kim's "Baby, I Love You," The Monkees' "I'm A Believer"(one of the biggest-selling records in history), Robin McNamara's "Lay A Little Lovin' On Me" and The Archies'immortal "Sugar, Sugar." Jeff and Ellie's songs have been recorded by 100s of top artists, from Dusty Springfield to Bruce Springsteen, to Mick Jagger, John Lennon, Tina Turner, The Beach Boys, U2, Freddie Mercury and Elton John. Country artists the caliber of Gary Stewart, Jody Miller, Glen Campbell, Lynn Anderson and The Bellamy Brothers have also scored on the charts with their compositions. In addition to songwriting and producing, Jeff and Ellie distinguished themselves as demo singers,background vocalists and session musicians for such artists as Van Morrison, Jim Croce, Aretha Franklin, Sarah Vaughn, Frank Sinatra and the "King" himself, Elvis Presley. Their music has been the subject of a PBS-TV special ("Chapel Of Love") and a Tony Award-nominated Broadway musical (Leader Of The Pack). Everyone agrees that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has ignored them for too long. Visit the website www.petitiononline.com/jbeg/, read the petition, and if you agree with its goal, sign your name and leave some personal comments about Jeff and Ellie's music. Pop stars Gene Pitney, Jody Miller and members of The Crystals and The Pixies Three have signed the petition! Add your name today, and spread the word to all of Jeff and Ellie's friends and admirers. There's strength in numbers . . . together, we can STORM the Hall! Don Charles [Ed. Note: Please sign this petition if you haven't already!!! It takes less than five minutes, is completely private, and supports two of the greatest Spectropop era songwriters/artists/producers. Jeff and Ellie at Spectropop http://www.spectropop.com/go2/Jeff_and_Ellie.html Sign it today! ] --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 16:05:52 -0400 From: "Bates, Robert (Cahners-NYC)" Subject: re: Brill Buidling doc > Because it was all news to the producer, the show kind > of feels like a history of Trenton, NJ as told by a guy > who drove there for the first time last week. Well, remember, this is for general TV viewers -- not for people who know this stuff. As such, I think it was a good -- and certainly entertaining -- intro to the period. Remember, there was a lot to cover. I agree that it didn't make sense to say there isn't a lot of source material, but in the question period, the guy showed he had a pretty good grasp of the subject. Plus, he said his favorite Brill Building song is "I Never Dreamed," so he must know something. If I had to name a flaw in the documentary it was that the chronology of things wasn't clear. It jumps around a lot in time -- sometimes confusingly so. There were also a couple of instances when the tunesmiths degrade their own work -- I don't necessarily blame the filmmaker for that, but if the purpose is to reignite interest in the period, that doesn't help. In one case, Goffin degrades the work he and King did for the Monkees as not "meaningful" enough; in another, Jeff Barry says songs like "Sugar Sugar" are just for kids and have no value. In both cases, I think time has proved them wrong; I only wish we could hear more songs like that, from those guys or anyone, today. Finally, to Jack's post, I believe that "Condition Red" is a different Goodies than "Dum Dum Ditty." But Mary Weiss is awesome. If you're familiar with the New York Dolls, it's striking how much Johnny Thunders and David Johansen copy her style. Regards, Rob B. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 14:59:02 EDT From: Ron Buono Subject: Long Live The Shangri-Las! spectropop writes: > Great to read of MARY WEISS of the Shangri Las spotted > out in public at the Brill Building documentary > screening. I have an amusing Shangs story to share but > it will have to wait until another day because I simply > HAVE to wash my hair. AW, c'mon Mick, don't leave us hangin' like that. SHARE! SHARE! I also was lucky enough to see the Brill Building doc last week. I loved the studio shots of the Shangs, not to mention the rare demos played throughout. The two-second clip of the Shangs singing "Out in the Streets" (on Shindig, I think) was a cruel teaser.....I want MORE! During the all-too-short interview with Mary Weiss, she mentioned that she was able to convey all that emotion due to the pain she was in at that time. Mary, WHAT DID YOU MEAN by that comment? If you are a Spectropop reader, can you elaborate? Long Live The Shangri-Las! Ron Buono --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 22:09:25 -0000 From: "Donny Hampton" Subject: Re: Ellie Greenwich AZ wrote >Finally I bought a record that's fully relevant... > >The record is Ellie Greenwich Composes, Produces and >Sings. Half the songs are originals. I don't think >they're quite the classics some of her other tunes are >but I like the arranging - by Hutch Davie, Gary Sherman >and Jimmy Wisner - and her voice is certainly suited to >this kind of vaguely Ronettes-ish material. > >Of the five originals, I think maybe "Goodnight >Goodnight" could have been a hit. If it wasn't. I don't >recognize any of the originals myself. They all have >that sound but I don't think they quite measure up to >her more famous hit songs. "Goodnight, Goodnight" is great, isn't it? That and "The Sunshine After The Rain" are my faves from Ellie's first album. I was lucky enough to find a copy years ago, at a reasonable price. I'll bet dealers want an arm and two legs for it nowadays! >Anyway in the liner notes it says she's about to produce >a group called The Definitive Rock Chorale. Did that >happen? That sounds interesting. Yes, Ellie did produce singles by The Original Rock Chorale, with Mike Rashkow, who was her partner in the late '60s. I think one of the titles was "I Hear The Grass Singing'" with Tony Passalacqua on lead vocals. I may be wrong about that, though. I'm sure somebody in this group knows for sure. >can anyone tell me about "The Jon and Robin Elastic >Event". I know a little bit about Jon & Robin. They were on the scene in the mid-60s, and as I recall, they were also known as Jon and Robin and The In-Crowd. Jon was Jon Abnor, and I think he wrote most of their material. They had some chart records, but the only one that comes to mind is "You Got Style" from 1968, which was written by Jeff Barry and Andy Kim. Don Charles --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 5 Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 11:45:03 -0400 From: Steven Prazak Subject: Nino & April's All Strung Out I'm completely over the moon about Nino Tempo & April Stevens' All Strung Out single. One of my fave 45s ever! But how's the accompanying White Whale album which I believe has seen a CD re-ish recently. As good as the single or is it loaded with fillers? Any comments from the Spectropop masses? steven prazak Atlanta, GA --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 6 Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 10:36:51 -0000 From: Lindsay Subject: Nino Tempo & April Stevens Does anyone else here share my weakness for these tracks? Deep Purple I'm Confessing That I Love You Stardust Whispering What is going on here? They are all arrangements of old songs, served up in an idiosyncratic style which shouldn't work more than once, but somehow it does for me. They all have that strong what... upbeat? backbeat? ...maybe some muso can describe it for me. They all have the heaving harmonica, the spoken bit in the middle, usually a chorus going, "Whoa". I should groan and say, "Oh no, not again!" but I'm addicted, especially to "I'm Confessing..." (it's the one that doesn't seem to have the "Whoas"; but it has whistling, like in "Whispering"). Love 'em all! Lindsay --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 7 Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 06:10:18 -0500 From: "Charles G. Hill" Subject: Dr Jon (he's a medicine man) Alan Zweig wrote: > can anyone tell me about "The Jon and Robin Elastic > Event". It's a boy girl thing that sounds almost > exactly like Nancy and Lee. Did they have any hits? > They do this tune "Doctor John" that sounds like it > could have been a minor hit. This might have been the last gasp of Jon and Robin and the In-Crowd, who hit with "Do It Again A Little Bit Slower" (#18, 1967). Last name was Abnor, which possibly suggests some connection to the Abnak label, on which most of their stuff was released....cgh ======================================= Charles G. Hill online since 1984, and very sleepy ======================================= --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 8 Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 09:43:12 EDT From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: The Hobbits Alan Zweig asks "How many bands called The Hobbits were there?" Answer: about one quarter as many as bands called The Outcasts...Any other overused names?? JB/former member of The Shadows --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 9 Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 13:40:56 +0100 From: "Mark Harris" Subject: Back to Mono Hello... Just subscribed to this list to ask if anyone in resident the UK knows where I can get a copy of the "Back To Mono" CD boxset - I've looked in all the obvious places in The Capital, but with no success... Ta Mark --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 10 Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 16:10:54 -0400 From: "Bates, Robert (Cahners-NYC)" Subject: Paul Williams tribute Spectropoppers in the NY area may be interested in a Paul Williams tribute in June, which you can read about at www.loserslounge.com. These tributes are generally excellent. Regards, Rob B. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 11 Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 11:33:01 -0400 From: Al Quaglieri Subject: Re: Digest Number 144 Once again, let me dispel a persistent untruth about the Spector stereo material currently circulating as mp3 files. This stuff is NOT a "synch-up," it is a bunch of crude mixes that were quite obviously made from the original three-track tapes, and - from the sound of things - in a major hurry. Nonetheless, they are genuine, the results aren't the kind of thing you can synthesize...plus there are quite a few alternate takes and backing tracks...if there's a ProTools method of generating a completely different vocal take (not just pitch correction and editing), I (and a lot of engineers) would love to hear about it. Al Q. NY --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 12 Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 22:32:09 -0000 From: "Donny Hampton" Subject: Hal Blaine Hal Blaine was interviewed by Terri Gross on the radio show "Fresh Air" today. Very interesting. He talked about working with Spector and The Beach Boys, and how Phil threatened to release an album featuring nothing but "fades" from his singles because so much work went into them! For me, it was kinda bittersweet listening,though, because they talked about Spector, they talked about Jack Nitzsche, they talked about various session musicians, but they never mentioned any songwriters other than Brian Wilson . . . and they opened the program with "Be My Baby," written by you-know-who! Hal Blaine, by the way, is in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Guess who ain't! A crime, isn't it? Don Charles --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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