============================================================ _ _ _ _|_ _ _ _ _ _ _)|_)(-(_|_| (_)|_)(_)|_) | | | ============================================================ Volume #0061 04/04/98 ============================================================ Dedicated to the betterment of recorded music and literatureSubject: brill building box Sent: 4/3/98 9:50 AM Received: 4/4/98 1:12 AM From: dave prokopy, prok.net KingoGrief, KingoGrm wrote: >...caveat emptor...i purchased said collection on cd about >half a year ago and returned it the next day...awful sound >quality, and some vocal/instrumental tracks sounded like >they could possibly have been re-recorded... i don't own it myself, but i seem to recall at the time of its release that they had trouble securing the rights to quite a few of the original hit versions, so they had to settle for re-recordings by lesser-knowns. plus, they couldn't find (or didn't bother to find) the earliest master tapes, so they mastered some of the songs from vinyl 45's! ---[ archived by Spectropop - 04 /4/98 - 02 :02:11 AM ]--- Subject: Francoise Hardy Sent: 4/3/98 9:11 AM Received: 4/4/98 1:12 AM From: Gillian Brett, gillian_brpatico.ca Funny someone else should mention Francoise Hardy. I have one of her records from the 60s "tous les garcon". I don't think she ever had a hit in the U.S. but she did have a couple of hits in England. Gill ---[ archived by Spectropop - 04 /4/98 - 02 :02:11 AM ]--- Subject: Re: Francoise and Serge Sent: 4/3/98 9:58 AM Received: 4/4/98 1:12 AM From: BashPop, Bashm << From: Marie-J. Leclerc, ron.ca I have been wondering this before and Spectropop is the perfect place to ask my questions. Did Francoise Hardy ever have a "hit" in the US? She was a big star in Europe in the sixties and early seventies (she is still recording very good albums as for now), had a big succes here too in Quebec with "Comment te dire adieu" ("It hurts to say goodbye") and many more songs, she appeared in some movies too, I can think of "Grand prix" and "What's new pussycat". (One musician that can be found on Francoise albums is Mick Jones of Foreigner. You might recognize him on Johnny Haliday albums too, he was a regular session guitarist at the time.) "Comment te dire adieu" was co-written by no one else but another French icon, Serge Gainsbourg. Which brings me to my second question: except for the now infamous "Je t'aime moi non plus", was Serge "known" in the US too? His work is a little treasure, it goes much beyond that "Je t'aime" song that was more a cheek in tongue essay that did well. BTW, the first version was done with Brigitte Bardot singing with Serge but never was released till the late eighties, but the one that officially came out with Jane Birkin was definitely much better.>> Bonjour Marie, Francoise Hardy never did have any songs make the US pop charts, although she has attained a strong cult status here, along with the other chanteuse France Gall. Serge Gainsbourg never had a hit in the states other than "Je T'aime", but he was well thought of enough for Mercury Records to issue a "best of" CD last year. You know, "Je T'aime" only reached #58 on the charts here; several of the states' biggest radio stations refused to play it because of its very suggestive content! It shows just how puritanical this nation can be! -- Spectropop Rules!!!!! Take Care, David ---[ archived by Spectropop - 04 /4/98 - 02 :02:11 AM ]--- Subject: Re: Spectropop V#0060 Sent: 4/3/98 8:45 AM Received: 4/4/98 1:12 AM From: David Marsteller, daveblin.org On Fri, 03 Apr 1998, Jeff wrote: > > In a message dated 98-03-31 12:41:00 EST, you write: > > << They also > have the Brill Building compilation for $12.77 but it's on > cassette. I ordered that too, but haven't got it yet. Wish > it was the CD. >> > > caveat emptor...i purchased said collection on cd about half > a year ago and returned it the next day...awful sound > quality, and some vocal/instrumental tracks sounded like > they could possibly have been re-recorded...it was dominion > who put this out, wasn't it? that should have been a > clue... I haven't played it yet, but it seems like a large number of the tracks are available elsewhere anyhow. > btw, those buddah/kama sutra comps...are those cd's? Yes, they are CDs. I wonder if they were meant to sell at budget prices? It appears that in 1996, BMG decided to start reissuing stuff in its vaults that originated from Buddah and Kama Sutra. I suspect that these two volumes of each were as far as they got. Oh, and albums by Lemon Pipers, Stories, etc. 12 songs per disc, 03 minutes per song- they easily could've combined two volumes on one disc. And some of the sound quality is funky (mastered from vinyl). But the Tradewinds, Vacels and Innocence singles aren't that common (on the Kama Sutra Vol. 1), and I'd never heard Le Cirque's Land Of Oz (an early track with Leon Russell and Marc Benno). That is on Volume Two of the Buddah collection. Dave /************************************************************************/ /** "Reach out and grab a fistful of now" **/ /** Thornetta Davis **/ /** David Marsteller daveblin.org **/ /************************************************************************/ ---[ archived by Spectropop - 04 /4/98 - 02 :02:11 AM ]--- Subject: French Pops/Pixies Three/Spector Boots Sent: 4/4/98 2:40 AM Received: 4/4/98 2:52 AM From: le_page_ies.com Great post on French pops, Marie. I don't know too much about this genre; I have the France Gall best-of CD and a few others. I find most of what I've heard to be quite stilted. I don't mean to criticize the genre across the board - I apparently have not heard the good stuff. I will say there is one record which I absolutely adore by Sylvie Barton, and that is Irresisteblement (sp?). This record is pure genius, with psychedelic echo and Spector-like reverb. The snare plays quarter notes throughout, and the song is punctuated with a fascinating brass/string line. Thinking I'd find more of the same I got a couple of Sylvie Barton CDs, but nothing compared. I was very disappointed. Strictly judging from what I've heard, French pop mimics (in a chanson-like way) pre-Beatles American pop, poorly at best. England had the same problem, I think based on the company-man-as-record-producer system which dominated the old school ways of the British music industry, but of course all that changed early on with Joe Meek and the Beatles. I don't get Serge Gainsbourg and Jane Birkin either. I must be missing the point. Can anyone help make a case for the appeal? == I took up Doc Rock's offer and asked him to email to me the Pixies Three article. Amazing! This very in-depth article also delves into the attraction to girl group records. One point Doc makes is that, while male artists themselves tended to make an impression as important as the impression their recordings made, girl groups did not; that is to say the appeal was more in the GG records than in the GG themselves. Even when Doc discovered the appeal of the exuberant Pixies, he clarifies that this was not an opposite sex attraction. I think that's interesting because many GG *records* had a distinct appeal based on romantic notions, yet the artists that recorded those same records were not the source of such appeal, at least not to me personally. Well, maybe Mary Weiss was... :-) Anyway, great piece on the Pixies, and now I have a whole new appreciation for them. You know, we surf music fans find their Brian Wilson "New Girl In School" sound alike to be a bit more than inspired by the J&D record. Doc, I know you are very familiar with J&D, further comment on the J&D (ahem) "inspired" song, please! == Peter Heide of Denmark wrote about a Phil Spector bootleg called "Phil and Friends vol.1" He said "Its an extremely interesting CD with lot of rare tracks by Lennon, Darlene Love, Dion, Fowley etc." Fowley? Anyone know what this is? We know already there is a European operation with at least three other Spector-related releases; namely the Crystals, Darlene Love and Ronettes comps. It must be the same operation. I have seen a lot from them lately. This appears to be a very organized operation. -- le_page_ies.com RodeoDrive/5030 ---[ archived by Spectropop - 04 /4/98 - 02 :02:11 AM ]--- Subject: Cookies - Orlons Sent: 4/3/98 9:20 AM Received: 4/4/98 1:12 AM From: Doc Rock, docroom >Doc, I dig what you're saying like totally. And then, now >that I'm thinking along those lines, I'd bet "Don't Say >Nothin' Bad About My Baby" could *also* have been written >for the Orlons. Compare it to "Don't Hang Up:" > >don't say nothin' bad about my baby >---oh nooooooooo > >don't hang up >---oh nooooooooo > >jack I think you are on to something, Jack! I always loved the low voice on "Don't Say Nothin' Bad," but wondered where the heck it came from. Well, if that was a demo for the Orlons, then it was supposed to be a MAN'S voice! Thanks for helping me to see the forest for the trees! Doc ---[ archived by Spectropop - 04 /4/98 - 02 :02:12 AM ]--- END
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