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Spectropop V#0061

  • From: The Spectropop Group
  • Date: 4/4/98
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        Volume #0061                                04/04/98
    Dedicated to the betterment of recorded music and literature
    Subject:     brill building box
    Sent:        4/3/98 9:50 AM
    Received:    4/4/98 1:12 AM
    From:        dave prokopy,
    KingoGrief, KingoGrm wrote:
    >...caveat emptor...i purchased said collection on cd about 
    >half a year ago and returned it the next day...awful sound 
    >quality, and some vocal/instrumental tracks sounded like 
    >they could possibly have been re-recorded...
    i don't own it myself, but i seem to recall at the time of 
    its release that they had trouble securing the rights to 
    quite a few of the original hit versions, so they had to 
    settle for re-recordings by lesser-knowns. plus, they 
    couldn't find (or didn't bother to find) the earliest master 
    tapes, so they  mastered some of the songs from vinyl 45's!
    ---[ archived by Spectropop - 04 /4/98 - 02 :02:11 AM ]---
    Subject:     Francoise Hardy
    Sent:        4/3/98 9:11 AM
    Received:    4/4/98 1:12 AM
    From:        Gillian Brett,
    Funny someone else should mention Francoise Hardy. I have 
    one of her records from the 60s "tous les garcon". I don't 
    think she ever had a hit in the U.S. but she did have a 
    couple of hits in England. Gill
    ---[ archived by Spectropop - 04 /4/98 - 02 :02:11 AM ]---
    Subject:     Re: Francoise and Serge
    Sent:        4/3/98 9:58 AM
    Received:    4/4/98 1:12 AM
    From:        BashPop, Bashm
    << From:        Marie-J. Leclerc,
     I have been wondering this before and Spectropop is the 
     perfect place to ask my questions. Did Francoise Hardy ever 
     have a "hit" in the US? She was a big star in Europe in the 
     sixties and early seventies (she is still recording very 
     good albums as for now), had a big succes here too in Quebec  
     with "Comment te dire adieu" ("It hurts to say goodbye") and 
     many more songs, she appeared in some movies too, I can 
     think of "Grand prix" and "What's new pussycat". (One 
     musician that can be found on Francoise albums is Mick 
     Jones of Foreigner. You might recognize him on Johnny 
     Haliday albums too, he was a regular session guitarist at 
     the time.)
     "Comment te dire adieu" was co-written by no one else but 
     another French icon, Serge Gainsbourg. Which brings me to my 
     second question: except for the now infamous "Je t'aime moi 
     non plus", was Serge "known" in the US too? His work is a 
     little treasure, it goes much beyond that "Je t'aime" song 
     that was more a cheek in tongue essay that did well. BTW, 
     the first version was done with Brigitte Bardot singing with 
     Serge but never was released till the late eighties, but the 
     one that officially came out with Jane Birkin was definitely 
     much better.>>
    Bonjour Marie,
    Francoise Hardy never did have any songs make the US pop 
    charts, although she has attained a strong cult status here, 
    along with the other chanteuse France Gall.
    Serge Gainsbourg never had a hit in the states other than  
    "Je T'aime", but he was well thought of enough for Mercury  
    Records to issue a "best of" CD last year. You know, "Je  
    T'aime" only reached #58 on the charts here; several of the 
    states' biggest radio stations refused to play it because 
    of its very suggestive content! It shows just how  
    puritanical this nation can be!
    Spectropop Rules!!!!!
    Take Care,
    ---[ archived by Spectropop - 04 /4/98 - 02 :02:11 AM ]---
    Subject:     Re: Spectropop V#0060
    Sent:        4/3/98 8:45 AM
    Received:    4/4/98 1:12 AM
    From:        David Marsteller,
    On Fri, 03 Apr 1998, Jeff wrote:
    > In a message dated 98-03-31 12:41:00 EST, you write:
    > << They also 
    >  have the Brill Building compilation for $12.77 but it's on 
    >  cassette. I ordered that too, but haven't got it yet. Wish 
    >  it was the CD. >>
    > caveat emptor...i purchased said collection on cd about half 
    > a year ago and returned it the next day...awful sound 
    > quality, and some vocal/instrumental tracks sounded like 
    > they could possibly have been was dominion 
    > who put this out, wasn't it?  that should have been a 
    > clue...
    I haven't played it yet, but it seems like a large number of 
    the tracks are available elsewhere anyhow.
    > btw, those buddah/kama sutra comps...are those cd's?
    Yes, they are CDs. I wonder if they were meant to sell at 
    budget prices? It appears that in 1996, BMG decided to 
    start reissuing stuff in its vaults that originated from 
    Buddah and Kama Sutra. I suspect that these two volumes of 
    each were as far as they got. Oh, and albums by Lemon 
    Pipers, Stories, etc. 12 songs per disc, 03 minutes per song-
    they easily could've combined two volumes on one disc. And 
    some of the sound quality is funky (mastered from vinyl). 
    But the Tradewinds, Vacels and Innocence singles aren't 
    that common (on the Kama Sutra Vol. 1), and I'd never 
    heard Le Cirque's Land Of Oz (an early track with Leon 
    Russell and Marc Benno). That is on Volume Two of the 
    Buddah collection.
    /**   "Reach out and grab a fistful of now"                            **/
    /**                                             Thornetta Davis        **/
    /**      David Marsteller                       **/
    ---[ archived by Spectropop - 04 /4/98 - 02 :02:11 AM ]---
    Subject:     French Pops/Pixies Three/Spector Boots
    Sent:        4/4/98 2:40 AM
    Received:    4/4/98 2:52 AM
    Great post on French pops, Marie. I don't know too much 
    about this genre; I have the France Gall best-of CD and a 
    few others. I find most of what I've heard to be quite 
    stilted. I don't mean to criticize the genre across the 
    board - I apparently have not heard the good stuff. I will 
    say there is one record which I absolutely adore by Sylvie 
    Barton, and that is Irresisteblement (sp?). This record is 
    pure genius, with psychedelic echo and Spector-like reverb. 
    The snare plays quarter notes throughout, and the song is 
    punctuated with a fascinating brass/string line. Thinking 
    I'd find more of the same I got a couple of Sylvie Barton 
    CDs, but nothing compared. I was very disappointed.
    Strictly judging from what I've heard, French pop mimics  
    (in a chanson-like way) pre-Beatles American pop, poorly at 
    best. England had the same problem, I think based on the 
    company-man-as-record-producer system which dominated the 
    old school ways of the British music industry, but of 
    course all that changed early on with Joe Meek and the 
    I don't get Serge Gainsbourg and Jane Birkin either. I must 
    be missing the point. Can anyone help make a case for the 
    I took up Doc Rock's offer and asked him to email to me the 
    Pixies Three article. Amazing! This very in-depth 
    article also delves into the attraction to girl group 
    records. One point Doc makes is that, while male artists 
    themselves tended to make an impression as important as the 
    impression their recordings made, girl groups did not; that 
    is to say the appeal was more in the GG records than in the 
    GG themselves. Even when Doc discovered the appeal of 
    the exuberant Pixies, he clarifies that this was not an 
    opposite sex attraction. 
    I think that's interesting because many GG *records* had a 
    distinct appeal based on romantic notions, yet the artists 
    that recorded those same records were not the source of such 
    appeal, at least not to me personally. Well, maybe Mary 
    Weiss was...   :-)
    Anyway, great piece on the Pixies, and now I have a  
    whole new appreciation for them. You know, we surf music  
    fans find their Brian Wilson "New Girl In School" sound 
    alike to be a bit more than inspired by the J&D record. 
    Doc, I know you are very familiar with J&D, further comment 
    on the J&D (ahem) "inspired" song, please! 
    Peter Heide of Denmark wrote about a Phil Spector bootleg 
    called "Phil and Friends vol.1" He said "Its an extremely 
    interesting CD with lot of rare tracks by Lennon, Darlene 
    Love, Dion, Fowley etc." Fowley? Anyone know what this is? 
    We know already there is a European operation with at least 
    three other Spector-related releases; namely the Crystals, 
    Darlene Love and Ronettes comps. It must be the same 
    operation. I have seen a lot from them lately. This appears 
    to be a very organized operation.
    ---[ archived by Spectropop - 04 /4/98 - 02 :02:11 AM ]---
    Subject:     Cookies - Orlons
    Sent:        4/3/98 9:20 AM
    Received:    4/4/98 1:12 AM
    From:        Doc Rock, docroom
    >Doc, I dig what you're saying like totally. And then, now 
    >that I'm thinking along those lines, I'd bet "Don't Say 
    >Nothin' Bad About My Baby" could *also* have been written 
    >for the Orlons. Compare it to "Don't Hang Up:"
    >don't say nothin' bad about my baby
    >---oh nooooooooo
    >don't hang up
    >---oh nooooooooo
    I think you are on to something, Jack! I always loved the 
    low voice on "Don't Say Nothin' Bad," but wondered where the 
    heck it came from. Well, if that was a demo for the Orlons, 
    then it was supposed to be a MAN'S voice! Thanks for 
    helping me to see the forest for the trees!
    ---[ archived by Spectropop - 04 /4/98 - 02 :02:12 AM ]---

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