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There are 7 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Crystals In Stereo
           From: Billy G. Spradlin 
      2. RE: A Fine Fine Discovery
           From: "Phil Chapman" 
      3. Re: Phil's Xmas LP
           From: Mark Landwehr 
      4. Re: David Gates
           From: "Hans Ebert" 
      5. Re: Connie Stevens dates
           From: Carol Kaye 
      6. Evie Sands
           From: Will George 
           From: "chris king" 


Message: 1
   Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 11:28:07 -0000
   From: Billy G. Spradlin 
Subject: Crystals In Stereo

Last night I was doing some searching on Napster (via
Napagator) and discovered a "rare stereo" mix of "Da Do
Ron Ron". I thought it was a 80's remake version, but
after I downloaded it - yikes, it was the real thing!  

The mix is almost binaural (Use headphones - I wished the
backing track was mixed a little louder, plus it's faded
earlier) but the sound quality is so much cleaner and
brighter than the ABKCO CD version. Can anyone tell me
what CD/LP this mix is from?

The only other Crystals in stereo I have heard was "He's
Sure The Boy I Love" which was on the Warner-Spector
"Phil Spector's Greatest Hits" Album. That stereo mix has
Darlene's vocal single-tracked. Are there any more
Crystals tracks in true stereo? Just curious. 


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Message: 2
   Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 17:07:59 +0100
   From: "Phil Chapman" 
Subject: RE: A Fine Fine Discovery

Jamie wrote:

> The "PSI edit" we are talking about here originally appeared
> on Phil Spector Wall of Sound Vol.4 "Yesterday's Hits -
> Today", right?

Yes - I have a 1968 'stereo playable mono' London label
(Holland) release grandly entitled "The Phil Spector
Sound - A Basic History Of Modern Pop" (I still haven't
translated the sleeve notes) containing the Philles mix
of "A Fine Fine Boy", and the Philles true-stereo mix of
"River Deep..." which is different from the A&M release.

> Exactly where does the edit begin?

Well seeing as we're going into detail......

The second chorus has two glock notes going into it,
whereas the first chorus only has one, so the 'in' point
has to be the downbeat into "..'cause he's got a..." -
the 'out' point is the downbeat of the sax riff (the 45
has a different drum fill under the line "..let me tell
you he's a ..."). And yes, I forgot to mention the most
obvious difference: Darlene sings extra ad-libs on the
second chorus!

Why? - who knows?? I guess they thought the second chorus
sounded more powerful. I tend to agree with you that it
makes the overall production more linear, not Phil's
usual build. I don't know why ABKCO used this and not the
Philles master. When the 70s PSI stuff came out, the
Ronettes & Christmas albums were issued in stereo, I
suspect remixed outside of Gold Star. Certainly the added
echo didn't sound like Gold Star. To compound this, echo
was sometimes applied to the wrong part, eg: "Chapel Of
Love" which sounds like the vocals were sung in some
alleyway. A couple of the 'previously unissued' tracks
had some 'non-Phil' balances, Ronnie's vocal on "Woman In
Love" is dry, and louder than I would have expected, so
perhaps he wasn't too involved at the time?

I think it would fair to say that nearly all of the
box-set cuts are transfers from the original Philles
master mixes, but they have been subjected to EQ and
noise-reduction which personally I could have done

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Message: 3
   Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 20:19:22 -0400
   From: Mark Landwehr 
Subject: Re: Phil's Xmas LP

In a message dated 3/30/01 Toby wrote:

> I play Spector's Xmas record all over the year, not
> just in December! What about you guys?

> Paul Urbahns wrote:
> I do also and in the summer months the neighbors think
> I'm crazy.

On Dec. 24th, I wrap presents to the sound of Phil's Xmas
LP...Been doing that for over 20 years, EVERY year!!!
Cranked up, too! The neighbors KNOW I'm crazy!!!

Phil Spector Label Gallery @

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Message: 4
   Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 21:42:42 +0800
   From: "Hans Ebert" 
Subject: Re: David Gates

With these sudden mentions about David Gates, some
questions: Who else has he produced or written music for,
what is the gentleman doing now and, apart from The
Goodbye Girl, how many of his songs have been featured in

Thanks heaps...

Hans Ebert

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Message: 5
   Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 10:17:56 -0700
   From: Carol Kaye 
Subject: Re: Connie Stevens dates

> It's a Sloan/Barri song with David Gates in full-on
> Spectorish mode, with mega-castanets and strings and a
> very cute and memorable melody. Lou Adler is credited
> as co-producer, but this track is *so* Dave Gates, I'm
> guessing that's just in the executive sense (do you
> recall Lou being there Carol?)

All I remember is that they were pretty-high-budgeted
things for Connie with David Gates....don't remember if
Lou Adler was there or not, don't think he was.  You can
be listed as a "co-producer" and not be at the dates at
all....or maybe just be at the vocal overdub dates and
final mastering.  David Gates was able to do everything
just fine, he's a huge talent, very capable of doing it
all, and very pleasant to work for too.  

Carol Kaye

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Message: 6
   Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 01:17:14 EDT
   From: Will George 
Subject: Evie Sands

I just recently began discovering Evie Sands' music
(after starting with her recent blues release). She had
some really wonderful singles in the 60s, which as far as
I know have never made it to CD. Does anyone know of any
CD releases of her music?

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Message: 7
   Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 16:39:30 -0000
   From: "chris king" 

DA DOO RON RON (Est. 1998)
HIGHBURY FROM Thursday 26th APRIL 2001

Dear fellow Spectropopsters - DA DOO RON RON,  the
original 60's girl group club is extremely chuffed to
announce that we are returning to our spiritual home in
Highbury.  PO NA NA, the venue that was our home at the
very beginning has been refurbished and is now even
groovier and goes by the name of Buffalo Bars.  As from
Thursday 26th April, DA DOO RON RON will be in residence
at Buffalo Bars on the fourth Thursday of every month,
ie.  Thurs 26th April, Thurs 24th May, Thurs 28th June,
Thurs 26th July et al.  Full info below, Cheers, Chris

We will also shortly announce monthly Saturday dates
here in Brighton.


When:-Every FOURTH Thursday of EACH month from Thursday
26th April.  Followed by Thurs 24th May, Thurs 28th June,
Thurs 26th July
Where:-Buffalo Bars (Formerly PO NA NA),259, Upper
Street, Highbury Corner, Highbury & Islington, N1
(directly next to High & Islington tube stn), below The
Famous Cock Tavern.  Tel:-0207 359 6191

Doors:-9pm - 2am

DJ's:-Chris D King, Si Bridger (aka Si Soul) & guests
will spin Da Doo faves from the likes of The Ronettes,
Marvelettes, Lesley Gore, Barbara Lewis, Chris Clark,
Supremes, Shangri-La's, Dusty, Petula, Lulu, Helen
Shapiro, Vandellas, Brenda Holloway, Shirley Bassey et al.

So, for a fabulous night of truly thrilling, goose-pimple
inducing, utterly unpretentious femme-centric 60's sounds,
make directly for DA DOO RON RON @ The Buffalo Bars from
Thursday 24th April.

DA DOO RON RON - the original 60's girl group club &
still the best!

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