http://www.spectropop.com ________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ Exemplifying the Best in Popular Music ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 8 messages in this issue of Spectropop. Topics in this Digest Number 129: 1. Barbara Lewis and I owe Van an apology From: Mattie Taylor 2. Re: Jackie DeShannon a Ladybug??? From: bryan 3. Re: Ed Cobb From: The Right Reverend Bob 4. Together Radio From: Ron Weekes 5. tape delay, echo chambers and Phil Spector From: LePageWeb 6. Mystic Astrologic Crystal Band From: Glenn Sadin 7. Re:Hey La The Girl Groups are Back From: James Botticelli 8. Sonny From: Jon Cook ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 22:53:48 +0900 From: Mattie Taylor Subject: Barbara Lewis and I owe Van an apology Hello Everybody, Does anyone know how to contact 60's singer, Barbara Lewis? Her recording of Van McCoy's "Baby I'm Yours" immortalized the song. You see, I'm Van's sister and I'm trying to keep his legacy alive by promoting and publishing his music copyrights. It is my hope that I will someday be able to contact Ms. Lewis just to thank her for recording that song. Once when she appeared on a TV show, "Circle of Friends", she shared her initial reluctance to record the song as it did not immediately appeal to her. Well, she sure vindicates my big blunder as I too did not appreciate the song. I remember Van excitedly playing it for me one Sunday afternoon. He was thrilled to have the chance to write a song for the new Detroit star, Barbara. In my best big sister "wisdom" I said it was a corny tune and that big star, who ever she was, would not sing about two and two is three and mountains tumbling to the sea. Barbara and I had something in common on that song, and we will have something in common when we have the chance to apologize to Van when we meet him again. I really believe at some point Van's story should be written. If and when it is, Barbara, the Girl Groups, Aretha, Gladys, Melba and many others can fill in the gaps in his spectacular career. It's embarrassing, but I must confess I spent too much time fussing because Van did not stay home long enough and always had some "group" to listen to. I just wanted more fun times with my kind and loving little brother. He was racing to give the world a legacy of love and happiness through song that was overflowing in him. How much I wish we had understood then, as I do now, the incredible genius of his works and contribution to music. Barbara Lewis, reluctantly, but with great beauty, got his message out to the world. All too soon his life was at the end of time and the great poet ran out of rhyme. Because of her willingness to sing that "corny" song, Van got to the chance to say to us, Baby I'm Yours. How I love all of you for loving and preserving the great composers and artists of that bygone era. My little brother, Van gets to take his place in history along with the others. Mattie Taylor Van McCoy Music, Inc. http://www.vanmccoymusic.com --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:12:01 -0800 From: bryan Subject: Re: Jackie DeShannon a Ladybug??? > In a recent posting, it was noted that the Del-Fi group, > the Ladybugs, consisted of Jackie DeShannon along with > members of the Murmaids. Can ayone shed more light on > this interesting fact??? Did Jackie sing lead?? The > Layybugs recorded a sensational Brill-Building-sounding > tune called "The Last TIme" (no, not the same Stones > song!!!) > > Please tell me more!! > > > Tony Leong I can't offer much info about this, but I'm not sure that the Ladybugs who recorded Chattahoochee 637, or the Ladybugs who recorded Legrand 1033, or the Ladybugs who were Jackie DeShannon and the Murmaids were the same group who recorded one single for Del-Fi. I used to work for Del-Fi, and know that their "It's The Last Time"/ "Sooner Or Later" 45 (Del-Fi 4233) came out in February 1964. The songs are available on the Del-Fi Girl Groups CD: Gee Baby Gee. I believe -- but I'm not 100% sure -- that producer/liner note writer Steve Stanley found the union sheet for this session (which usually lists just the musicians who played on the songs, but sometimes provide info about the singers), and we weren't certain whether or not it was the same group. And Steve's in the Spectropop Group, so maybe he'll read this and provide more info...but I'm pretty sure that he wasn't able to determine either way when we put out the CD...Steve? Bryan --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:24:37 -0800 (PST) From: The Right Reverend Bob Subject: Re: Ed Cobb Ed Cobb is also, "Edward All-American True-Heart, Albino Cobb" of the always entertaining, Four Preps! The Right Reverend Bob, dumb angel chapel, The Church of the Harmonic Overdub --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 4 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:30:06 -0700 From: Ron Weekes Subject: Together Radio Just to let all of you that Together Radio with Spectropop Producers Gary Usher and Curt Boettcher is currently webcasting at www.live365.com. I wanted to go with quality on this one so you need either a T1 or DSL connection to hear it. It will run until the end of March when I will switch back to the Gary Usher Spectropop Radio playlist. Someone wrote and asked if I could create two separate broadcasts. I'm not sure if live365 will allow me to do this. I'll look into it. If anyone knows, please e-mail me privately. Ron Weekes www.garyusher.com --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 5 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 10:22:08 +0900 From: LePageWeb Subject: tape delay, echo chambers and Phil Spector I asked Phil Chapman about his reference to Jerry Riopelle in connection with "You're Baby Doesn't Love You Anymore" He replied: > I was referring to the use of echo. This Ruby & The > Romantics track has far more echo than their other > recordings and you can quite clearly hear in-time (tape) > delays on the rhythm section, and the hi-end build up on > the choruses - this reminded me of the Clydie > King/Bonnie & The Treasures productions of Jerry > Riopelle (& Nino Tempo, Sonny Bono etc) from the period > when everyone was influenced by the Spector sound. Got it. Thanks. Yeah, that in-tempo tape delay is one of the most endearing qualities of this era of music. Of course now they just dial up the delay using a chart based on the BPM...a far cry from the days when they had to use splicing tape wound around the capstan! One record that uses this effect particularly well is Gerry Goffin's "Hey Girl" by Freddie Scott, doncha think? > It always interests me the amount of echo producers > threw on when Spector himself didn't actually use that > much apart from on drums - "Be My Baby" for example is > virtually dry, the power is achieved with acoustic > guitars, keyboards, saxes, percussion, backing vocals & > strings all churning out the same thing. That's interesting. When I read this I immediately thought of Darlene's "Long Way to be Happy" which screams echo, although as you say it is mainly that terrific backbeat. Here is a quote from Larry Levine about Phil and echo: "[Gold Star's] console had a divider, so as you increased the echo send, you decreased the send to the fader, which was the way we thought echo should be. Echo was to make things sound farther away, not to create the effect. "Dave had designed two chambers that were angled, so that they were two geometric shapes that would fit side by side. These were the chambers that Phil Spector would make famous. Inside the chambers, we put a little eight-inch speaker and a RCA flat ribbon microphone to capture the echo and bring it into the board. "I remember during the recording of "Then He Kissed Me," I was trying to get more level because Phil wanted things louder and louder. What I decided to do was to send the original to two tracks and double up the level of sound. Later, I would just keep one of the tracks and use the other track for voices and strings. What had happened was that the echo also got doubled. It was okay when I had both tracks, but when I erased the other track I was left with essentially twice the echo that I had originally put on. "I didn't admit it was an accident, though Phil knew how it had happened. But he liked what he heard. He listened and understood exactly how it had happened." Well, good for Mr. Spector. I don't get it, though. If a mono track is being sent (with echo) to two separate tracks, and one is erased later, I don't see how the echo is doubled up unless the erased track was dry. This has puzzled me since I first read this. > I think the only other person who handled echo this > skilfully was Brian Wilson. Now THAT is something to think about! Brian's use of echo during the Today/Pet Sounds era is absolutely brilliant. Thanks, Jamie --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 6 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:19:11 -0800 From: Glenn Sadin Subject: Mystic Astrologic Crystal Band >Finally I do have one Xmas voucher left and I'm >deliberating between The Tiffany Shade and Mystic >Astrologic Crystal Band featuring Steve Hoffman (who he?) >both of which I've heard described as similar to Yellow >Balloon and The Millennium. Anyone out there who can >shed some light/offer opinions on these? If you like the Yellow Balloon, you would probably enjoy the Mystic Astrologic Crystal Band, although they're a bit more psych. Steve Hoffman has had an interesting career; after the MACB project, he went on to write, produce, perform on and sing most of the musical soundtrack for the hilarious "Lancelot Link Secret Chimp" kiddie show in 1969/70. I have the rare soundtrack LP, and it is fantastic late '60s hard bubblegum. I am also about 90% sure that the same Steve Hoffman was the reissue producer for DCC Compact Classics in the '80s and '90s, and responsible for the great "Pet Sounds" gold disc, as well as "Surf Legends and Rumors" and the first Arthur Lyman CD issue. Glenn Glenn Sadin, Drummer for THE NEDERBEATS: http://188.8.131.52/nederbeats/ Read about Japanese pop from the '50s & '60s! NIHON NO POPS: http://home.earthlink.net/~glenn_mariko/nihon.htm --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 7 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:50:01 EST From: James Botticelli Subject: Re:Hey La The Girl Groups are Back How come PBS, the prissy gatekeeper of highbrow culture in the United States, continues to trot out pop culture performers everytime they fundraise? This is an insult to pop culture as far as I'm concerned. Sneer at it while you suck the cash cow dry producing "high minded" stuff, then turn to it when u need to reach the "great unwashed" to raise more money to produce pablum for the intelligentsia. Last month they had Barry Manilow--this month the Girl Groups (it WAS good to see them, I'll admit!) Who's next? Shaun Cassidy?...My .02 JB --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 8 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:38:24 EST From: Jon Cook Subject: Sonny Greetings, fellow members. I was wondering why there hasn't been more discussion on Sonny Bono and his efforts. Too popular, perhaps? Or maybe too obvious? I think of him as Spector's most loyal disciple, as he adhered to Phil's formula even more than Brian Wilson. Did anyone else purchase the Sonny solo album from Rhino Handmade besides me? I recently caught his, and Cher's, movie, "Good Times". While it plays like a long Monkees episode, I greatly enjoyed the hip clothing and their modern furnishings, both in the 'real' world and within Sonny's dream sequences. Besides, any movie that features a rock star playing chess against a monkey is alright in my book. jon cook --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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