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Spectropop - Digest Number 128

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              exciting full-color sketchbook look inside

There are 8 messages in this issue of Spectropop.

Topics in this  Digest Number 128:

      1. Beach Boys 2fers corfirmation
           From: "Kingsley Abbott" 
      2. New Old Beach Boys records again (and again)
           From: LePageWeb 
      3. RE: "You're Baby Doesn't Love You Anymore"
           From: "Phil Chapman" 
      4. RE: Ed Cobb
           From: "Phil Chapman" 
      5. Teenage Opera
           From: Frank 
      6. interested in trading
           From: Steve. 
      7. Jackie DeShannon a Ladybug???
           From: Tony Leong 
           From: "LePageWeb" 


Message: 1
   Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:25:09 -0000
   From: "Kingsley Abbott" 
Subject: Beach Boys 2fers corfirmation

By saying they were the same, I was meaning the tracks,
which do seem to be the same from the sheets EMI have
sent me. Someone had asked if there were any different
tracks.  Regarding the re-mastering, I'm delighted to
read that more work than I realised has been done -
Excellent!  I was only going by what Mark Linett had told
me that he thought was the case a couple of weeks ago.  I
bow to Mike's greater and fresher knowledge and delight
in it!

Kingsley Abbott

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Message: 2
   Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:55:15 +0900
   From: LePageWeb 
Subject: New Old Beach Boys records again (and again)

Regarding the Beach Boys reissues, I snagged the bit
quoted below from the Capitol website.

The question is, after buying the original LPs and the
45s, and then buying the same recordings on both the
2fer CDs AND the box sets, do I really need to buy them
all over again? I think I should be entitled to a BIG
discount and just get the upgrades! ;-)


> Four releases are coming out March 26 and the second
> four on April 10. All recordings have been digitally
> remastered using the HDCD process and all CDs feature
> bonus tracks and/or alternate versions of Beach Boy
> hits.
> The 16 titles, packaged as eight CDs are: 
> Surfin' Safari/Surfin' USA 
> Surfer Girl/Shut Down Vol. 2 
> Little Deuce Coupe/All Summer Long 
> The Beach Boys Today!/Summer Days (And Summer Nights!!) 
> Party/Stack-O-Tracks 
> Smiley Smile/Wild Honey 
> Friends/20/20 
> Beach Boys Concert/ Live in London 
> Surfin' Safari/Surfin' USA features 3 bonus tracks:
> "Cindy, Oh Cindy" (a top ten hit for Eddie Fisher in
> 1956), "The Baker Man," and "Land Ahoy." Surfer
> Girl/Shut Down Volume 2 also includes 3 bonus tracks:
> The single version of "Fun, Fun, Fun," a German version
> of "In My Room," and "I Do." There are six bonus tracks
> on Smiley Smile/Wild Honey, including an early take of
> "Good Vibrations," an alternate version of "Heroes and
> Villains," and a second version of "Good Vibrations"
> culled from various sessions. The other three bonus
> tracks are "You're Welcome," "Their Hearts Were Full Of
> Spring" and "Can't Wait Too Long."
> "Help Me Rhonda," "California Girls" and "Our Car Club"
> appear as bonus tracks on Party/Stack-O-Tracks. Five
> bonus tracks, "Break Away," "Celebrate The News," "We're
> Together Again," "Walk On By," and "Old Folks At Home/Ol'
> Man River" are featured on Friends/20/20. "Don't Worry
> Baby" and "Heroes and Villains" are included on the #1
> hit Beach Boys Concert/ Live in London. The single
> version of their 1963 hit, "Be True To Your School," is
> one of four bonus tracks on Little Deuce Coupe/All
> Summer Long, along with alternate versions of "Little
> Honda," "All Dressed Up For School" and "Don't Back Down."
> Alternate takes of "Dance Dance Dance," "I'm So Young"
> and "Let Him Run Wild" are featured on The Beach Boys
> Today!/Summer Days (And Summer Nights!!) along with a
> studio version of "Graduation Day."

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Message: 3
   Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:41:47 -0000
   From: "Phil Chapman" 
Subject: RE: "You're Baby Doesn't Love You Anymore"

> I hear the Teddy Randazzo flavour, but I don't get the
> Riopelle reference. Can you elaborate?

I was referring to the use of echo. This Ruby & The
Romantics track has far more echo than their other
recordings and you can quite clearly hear in-time (tape)
delays on the rhythm section, and the hi-end build up on
the choruses - this reminded me of the Clydie
King/Bonnie & The Treasures productions of Jerry
Riopelle (& Nino Tempo, Sonny Bono etc) from the period
when everyone was influenced by the Spector sound. On
reflection it's more like the sound of the Bill Medley
produced Royalettes recordings.

It always interests me the amount of echo producers
threw on when Spector himself didn't actually use that
much apart from on drums - "Be My Baby" for example is
virtually dry, the power is achieved with acoustic
guitars, keyboards, saxes, percussion, backing vocals &
strings all churning out the same thing. I think the
only other person who handled echo this skilfully was
Brian Wilson.

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Message: 4
   Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:01:24 -0000
   From: "Phil Chapman" 
Subject: RE: Ed Cobb

>from the All Music Guide:
>"Heartbeat" was another throbbing near-miss,
>recorded with, oddly enough, producer Ed Cobb, who was
>more renowned for his work with garage-pop groups like
>the Standells and the Chocolate Watch Band.

Ed Cobb should also be reknown for writing Brenda
Holloway's "Every Little Bit Hurts" and producing Ketty
Lester's "Love Letters" with that unforgettable Lincoln
Mayorga piano part.

"Heartbeat" was also recorded by Dusty Springfield and
used for a short period to open the UK TV pop show
"Ready Steady Go".

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Message: 5
   Date: Thu, 15 Mar 01 08:50:52 +0100
   From: Frank 
Subject: Teenage Opera

>And still on the subject of the British Pop
>Scene...has anyone got any news on Keith West who had
>a huge hit with Excerpt From A Teenage Opera? Classic
>track that's got lost somewhere in the shuffle...
>Hans Ebert

Don't know if you're aware of it but there was a CD
released a while back with the complete Teenage Opera
tracks. Quite interesting. 


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Message: 6
   Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:00:27 -0000
   From: Steve. 
Subject: interested in trading

Hi Spectropoppers,

I was wondering if any members of the Spectropop Group
were interested in trading. I am a student primary
teacher from Britain and therefore I am skint, penniless
etc, and can't afford to buy my rapidly increasing
wishlist of sunshine and soft pop from the late 60's. I
also think it would be great if we could share each
others music. 

I have a decent amount of CDs to trade including a
selection of soft/sunshine/psych pop (US and UK)as well
as a selection from the sixties and seventies of better
known (but not necessarily better) artistes.

If interested send an e-mail to my address and I'll post
you a list.

Finally I do have one Xmas voucher left and I'm
deliberating between The Tiffany Shade and Mystic
Astrologic Crystal Band featuring Steve Hoffman (who he?)
both of which I've heard described as similar to Yellow
Balloon and The Millennium. Anyone out there who can
shed some light/offer opinions on these? 



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Message: 7
   Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:50:36 -0000
   From: Tony Leong 
Subject: Jackie DeShannon a Ladybug???

Greetings All,

I'm Tony, a new member to the group, and as you'll all
see I'm a major girl group fanatic.

In a recent posting, it was noted that the Del-Fi group,
the Ladybugs, consisted of Jackie DeShannon along with
members of the Murmaids. Can ayone shed more light on
this interesting fact??? Did Jackie sing lead?? The
Layybugs recorded a sensational Brill-Building-sounding
tune called "The Last TIme" (no, not the same Stones

Please tell me more!!

Tony Leong

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Message: 8
   Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 05:21:29 -0000
   From: "LePageWeb" 

Hey, everyone! It's a heck of a long URL, but I quote
it as the source of the following information:

A production of Connecticut Public Television, HEY LA,
association with American Public Television. It is
distributed to public television stations nationwide by

Here's a quote from the fact sheet:

public television stations nationwide beginning March 1,
2001 (check local listings), reunites some of the most
popular girl groups for a memorable concert of their
biggest hits. Taped in November 2000 at Foxwoods Resort
Casino in Connecticut, the 80-minute concert features
some of the most spectacular and original acts of the
era. From rock-and-roll bad girl Ronnie Spector to the
thunderbolt voice of Darlene Love to the sassy elegance
of the Shirelles' Shirley Alston Reeves, HEY LA, HEY LA,
THE GIRL GROUPS ARE BACK! showcases the women and the
songs that defined an unforgettable period in music
history. Mary Wilson, a member of the legendary
Supremes, hosts this special. This program features
dance favorites and romantic ballads performed by the
singers who made them legends: Ronnie Spector ("Baby I
Love You"), Darlene Love ("He's a Rebel"), the
Shirelles' Shirley Alston Reeves ("Will You Still Love
Me Tomorrow"), Martha Reeves and the Vandellas
("Dancing in the Street"), the Crystals' LaLa Brooks
("Da Doo Ron Ron"), The Chiffons ("He's So Fine"), and
The Angels ("My Boyfriend's Back").

On this web page (which is in Acrobat pdf format, by
the way), is listed the following Performance Rundown.

My Boyfriend's Back ?\ The Angels
Till ?\ The Angels
Mama Said ?\ Shirley Alston Reeves
(original lead singer of The Shirelles)
Baby It's You ?\ Shirley Alston Reeves
Tonight's the Night ?\ Shirley Alston Reeves
Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow ?\ Shirley Alston Reeves
Dedicated to the One I Love ?\ Shirley Alston Reeves
Soldier Boy ?\ Shirley Alston Reeves
Wait 'Til My Bobby Gets Home ?\ Darlene Love
He's Sure the Boy I Love ?\ Darlene Love
He's a Rebel ?\ Darlene Love
One Fine Day ?\ The Chiffons
Sweet Talkin' Guy ?\ The Chiffons
Uptown ?\ LaLa Brooks, original lead singer of the Crystals
Then He Kissed Me ?\ LaLa Brooks
Da Doo Ron Ron ?\ LaLa Brooks
Heat Wave ?\ Martha Reeves and the Vandellas
Jimmy Mack ?\ Martha Reeves and the Vandellas
Nowhere to Run ?\ Martha Reeves and the Vandellas
Dancing in the Street ?\ Martha Reeves and the Vandellas
Baby I Love You ?\ Ronnie Spector
Best Part of Breaking Up ?\ Ronnie Spector
Walking in the Rain ?\ Ronnie Spector

Get those VCRs ready!


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