http://www.spectropop.com ________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ exciting full-color sketchbook look inside ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 8 messages in this issue of Spectropop. Topics in this Digest Number 128: 1. Beach Boys 2fers corfirmation From: "Kingsley Abbott" 2. New Old Beach Boys records again (and again) From: LePageWeb 3. RE: "You're Baby Doesn't Love You Anymore" From: "Phil Chapman" 4. RE: Ed Cobb From: "Phil Chapman" 5. Teenage Opera From: Frank 6. interested in trading From: Steve. 7. Jackie DeShannon a Ladybug??? From: Tony Leong 8. HEY LA, HEY LA, THE GIRL GROUPS ARE BACK From: "LePageWeb" ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:25:09 -0000 From: "Kingsley Abbott" Subject: Beach Boys 2fers corfirmation By saying they were the same, I was meaning the tracks, which do seem to be the same from the sheets EMI have sent me. Someone had asked if there were any different tracks. Regarding the re-mastering, I'm delighted to read that more work than I realised has been done - Excellent! I was only going by what Mark Linett had told me that he thought was the case a couple of weeks ago. I bow to Mike's greater and fresher knowledge and delight in it! Kingsley Abbott --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:55:15 +0900 From: LePageWeb Subject: New Old Beach Boys records again (and again) Regarding the Beach Boys reissues, I snagged the bit quoted below from the Capitol website. http://hollywoodandvine.com/beachboys/release526.html The question is, after buying the original LPs and the 45s, and then buying the same recordings on both the 2fer CDs AND the box sets, do I really need to buy them all over again? I think I should be entitled to a BIG discount and just get the upgrades! ;-) Jamie > Four releases are coming out March 26 and the second > four on April 10. All recordings have been digitally > remastered using the HDCD process and all CDs feature > bonus tracks and/or alternate versions of Beach Boy > hits. > > The 16 titles, packaged as eight CDs are: > Surfin' Safari/Surfin' USA > Surfer Girl/Shut Down Vol. 2 > Little Deuce Coupe/All Summer Long > The Beach Boys Today!/Summer Days (And Summer Nights!!) > Party/Stack-O-Tracks > Smiley Smile/Wild Honey > Friends/20/20 > Beach Boys Concert/ Live in London > > Surfin' Safari/Surfin' USA features 3 bonus tracks: > "Cindy, Oh Cindy" (a top ten hit for Eddie Fisher in > 1956), "The Baker Man," and "Land Ahoy." Surfer > Girl/Shut Down Volume 2 also includes 3 bonus tracks: > The single version of "Fun, Fun, Fun," a German version > of "In My Room," and "I Do." There are six bonus tracks > on Smiley Smile/Wild Honey, including an early take of > "Good Vibrations," an alternate version of "Heroes and > Villains," and a second version of "Good Vibrations" > culled from various sessions. The other three bonus > tracks are "You're Welcome," "Their Hearts Were Full Of > Spring" and "Can't Wait Too Long." > > "Help Me Rhonda," "California Girls" and "Our Car Club" > appear as bonus tracks on Party/Stack-O-Tracks. Five > bonus tracks, "Break Away," "Celebrate The News," "We're > Together Again," "Walk On By," and "Old Folks At Home/Ol' > Man River" are featured on Friends/20/20. "Don't Worry > Baby" and "Heroes and Villains" are included on the #1 > hit Beach Boys Concert/ Live in London. The single > version of their 1963 hit, "Be True To Your School," is > one of four bonus tracks on Little Deuce Coupe/All > Summer Long, along with alternate versions of "Little > Honda," "All Dressed Up For School" and "Don't Back Down." > Alternate takes of "Dance Dance Dance," "I'm So Young" > and "Let Him Run Wild" are featured on The Beach Boys > Today!/Summer Days (And Summer Nights!!) along with a > studio version of "Graduation Day." --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:41:47 -0000 From: "Phil Chapman" Subject: RE: "You're Baby Doesn't Love You Anymore" > I hear the Teddy Randazzo flavour, but I don't get the > Riopelle reference. Can you elaborate? I was referring to the use of echo. This Ruby & The Romantics track has far more echo than their other recordings and you can quite clearly hear in-time (tape) delays on the rhythm section, and the hi-end build up on the choruses - this reminded me of the Clydie King/Bonnie & The Treasures productions of Jerry Riopelle (& Nino Tempo, Sonny Bono etc) from the period when everyone was influenced by the Spector sound. On reflection it's more like the sound of the Bill Medley produced Royalettes recordings. It always interests me the amount of echo producers threw on when Spector himself didn't actually use that much apart from on drums - "Be My Baby" for example is virtually dry, the power is achieved with acoustic guitars, keyboards, saxes, percussion, backing vocals & strings all churning out the same thing. I think the only other person who handled echo this skilfully was Brian Wilson. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:01:24 -0000 From: "Phil Chapman" Subject: RE: Ed Cobb >from the All Music Guide: >"Heartbeat" was another throbbing near-miss, >recorded with, oddly enough, producer Ed Cobb, who was >more renowned for his work with garage-pop groups like >the Standells and the Chocolate Watch Band. Ed Cobb should also be reknown for writing Brenda Holloway's "Every Little Bit Hurts" and producing Ketty Lester's "Love Letters" with that unforgettable Lincoln Mayorga piano part. "Heartbeat" was also recorded by Dusty Springfield and used for a short period to open the UK TV pop show "Ready Steady Go". --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 01 08:50:52 +0100 From: Frank Subject: Teenage Opera >And still on the subject of the British Pop >Scene...has anyone got any news on Keith West who had >a huge hit with Excerpt From A Teenage Opera? Classic >track that's got lost somewhere in the shuffle... > >Cheers, > >Hans Ebert Don't know if you're aware of it but there was a CD released a while back with the complete Teenage Opera tracks. Quite interesting. Frank --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 6 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:00:27 -0000 From: Steve. Subject: interested in trading Hi Spectropoppers, I was wondering if any members of the Spectropop Group were interested in trading. I am a student primary teacher from Britain and therefore I am skint, penniless etc, and can't afford to buy my rapidly increasing wishlist of sunshine and soft pop from the late 60's. I also think it would be great if we could share each others music. I have a decent amount of CDs to trade including a selection of soft/sunshine/psych pop (US and UK)as well as a selection from the sixties and seventies of better known (but not necessarily better) artistes. If interested send an e-mail to my address and I'll post you a list. Finally I do have one Xmas voucher left and I'm deliberating between The Tiffany Shade and Mystic Astrologic Crystal Band featuring Steve Hoffman (who he?) both of which I've heard described as similar to Yellow Balloon and The Millennium. Anyone out there who can shed some light/offer opinions on these? Thanks, Steve. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 7 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:50:36 -0000 From: Tony Leong Subject: Jackie DeShannon a Ladybug??? Greetings All, I'm Tony, a new member to the group, and as you'll all see I'm a major girl group fanatic. In a recent posting, it was noted that the Del-Fi group, the Ladybugs, consisted of Jackie DeShannon along with members of the Murmaids. Can ayone shed more light on this interesting fact??? Did Jackie sing lead?? The Layybugs recorded a sensational Brill-Building-sounding tune called "The Last TIme" (no, not the same Stones song!!!) Please tell me more!! Tony Leong --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 8 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 05:21:29 -0000 From: "LePageWeb" Subject: HEY LA, HEY LA, THE GIRL GROUPS ARE BACK http://www.aptvs.org/catalog.nsf/f438aefc1963eb6f85256643006faa76/5e54819f777f6ad8852569c9006b8f0b?OpenDocument Hey, everyone! It's a heck of a long URL, but I quote it as the source of the following information: A production of Connecticut Public Television, HEY LA, HEY LA, THE GIRL GROUPS ARE BACK! was produced in association with American Public Television. It is distributed to public television stations nationwide by APT. Here's a quote from the fact sheet: HEY LA, HEY LA, THE GIRL GROUPS ARE BACK!, airing on public television stations nationwide beginning March 1, 2001 (check local listings), reunites some of the most popular girl groups for a memorable concert of their biggest hits. Taped in November 2000 at Foxwoods Resort Casino in Connecticut, the 80-minute concert features some of the most spectacular and original acts of the era. From rock-and-roll bad girl Ronnie Spector to the thunderbolt voice of Darlene Love to the sassy elegance of the Shirelles' Shirley Alston Reeves, HEY LA, HEY LA, THE GIRL GROUPS ARE BACK! showcases the women and the songs that defined an unforgettable period in music history. Mary Wilson, a member of the legendary Supremes, hosts this special. This program features dance favorites and romantic ballads performed by the singers who made them legends: Ronnie Spector ("Baby I Love You"), Darlene Love ("He's a Rebel"), the Shirelles' Shirley Alston Reeves ("Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow"), Martha Reeves and the Vandellas ("Dancing in the Street"), the Crystals' LaLa Brooks ("Da Doo Ron Ron"), The Chiffons ("He's So Fine"), and The Angels ("My Boyfriend's Back"). On this web page (which is in Acrobat pdf format, by the way), is listed the following Performance Rundown. 1/12/01 PERFORMANCE RUNDOWN HEY LA, HEY LA, THE GIRL GROUPS ARE BACK! My Boyfriend's Back ?\ The Angels Till ?\ The Angels Mama Said ?\ Shirley Alston Reeves (original lead singer of The Shirelles) Baby It's You ?\ Shirley Alston Reeves Tonight's the Night ?\ Shirley Alston Reeves Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow ?\ Shirley Alston Reeves Dedicated to the One I Love ?\ Shirley Alston Reeves Soldier Boy ?\ Shirley Alston Reeves Wait 'Til My Bobby Gets Home ?\ Darlene Love He's Sure the Boy I Love ?\ Darlene Love He's a Rebel ?\ Darlene Love One Fine Day ?\ The Chiffons Sweet Talkin' Guy ?\ The Chiffons Uptown ?\ LaLa Brooks, original lead singer of the Crystals Then He Kissed Me ?\ LaLa Brooks Da Doo Ron Ron ?\ LaLa Brooks Heat Wave ?\ Martha Reeves and the Vandellas Jimmy Mack ?\ Martha Reeves and the Vandellas Nowhere to Run ?\ Martha Reeves and the Vandellas Dancing in the Street ?\ Martha Reeves and the Vandellas Baby I Love You ?\ Ronnie Spector Best Part of Breaking Up ?\ Ronnie Spector Walking in the Rain ?\ Ronnie Spector Get those VCRs ready! Jamie --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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