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There are 8 messages in this issue of Spectropop.

Topics in this Digest Number 127:

      1. Re: Re: mastered Beach Boys
           From: "Ron Weekes" 
      2. Re: Gloria Jones
           From: Patrick Rands 
      3. Gloria Jones
           From: John Clemente 
      4. Re: Gloria and Dion
           From: "Spector Collector" 
      5. Re: Gloria Jones
           From: Frank 
      6. Worth Searchin'
           From: "Hans Ebert" 
      7. Beach Boys 2fers
           From: "Kingsley Abbott" 
      8. Re: Beach Boys 2fers
           From: "mikey1" 


Message: 1
   Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:12:43 -0700
   From: "Ron Weekes" 
Subject: Re: Re: mastered Beach Boys

"Lo, Levin" wrote:

> Anyone out there who knows more details about the
> remastered 2-in-1 Beach Boys albums from Capitol
> (releasing in March & April)?  
> Are there any substantial differences between these and
> the 1990 releases? Would there be any "remixed stereo"
> ala Pet Sounds Sessions?  Any unearthed bonus tracks
> since 1990? Is it Mark Linnett, or someone else, who's
> doing the remastering this time?

The only sonic difference is to me things sound a little
brighter.  I read on the Pet Sounds Mailing List that the
mixes didn't use the No Noise filters as were done with
the 1990s reissues.  And I think the 24 bit mastering
helps a little.  Packaging is basically the same.  No new
bonus tracks.  In fact, and I can't remember which, some
of the bonus tracks are new mixes since the other tapes
could not be found.

Ron Weekes

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Message: 2
   Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 16:12:16 -0500
   From: Patrick Rands 
Subject: Re: Gloria Jones

This is taken from the All Music Guide:
Gloria Jones 
Born  Sep 12, 1938 in Long View, TX 
When the name of Gloria Jones comes up in rocktalk, it's
usually as a trivia question. Firstly, in the mid-'60s
she recorded the original version of "Tainted Love,"
which was covered by Soft Cell for a huge international
hit in 1982. She was also the girlfriend of British glam
rocker Marc Bolan, in addition to singing and playing
keyboards in his T. Rex band. Her considerable talent as
as a soul singer gets lost in the shuffle, especially
because few of her recordings are currently available.

Jones earns a spot in rock history on the merits of
"Tainted Love" alone. This propulsive mid-'60s soul
stomper, wholly dissimilar to Soft Cell's wimpy
synth-pop cover, is one of the great '60s hits that
never was. "Heartbeat" was another throbbing near-miss,
recorded with, oddly enough, producer Ed Cobb, who was
more renowned for his work with garage-pop groups like
the Standells and the Chocolate Watch Band. 

Both "Heartbeat" and "Tainted Love" were written by Cobb
as well, although Jones was not without songwriting
talent, co- writing Marvin Gaye and Diana Ross' 1974 hit
duet, "My Mistake." Jones never had more than regional
success, and (like several other minor American soul
singers) moved to Great Britain, where the cultish
devotion of Northern Soul fans ensured regular work. 

In 1974, Jones joined T. Rex (which by that time was
fading rapidly) as a keyboardist and backing vocalist.
Becoming romantically involved with the singer, she also
helped sway him into a more soul/dance-oriented
direction. Bolan in turn helped her out on her solo
album Vixen, playing guitar and writing songs. After
having a child, their time together came to a tragic end
when Bolan was killed in a car accident in 1977, with
Jones at the wheel. 

Richie Unterberger

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Message: 3
   Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 07:16:01 -0500
   From: John Clemente 
Subject: Gloria Jones

Hello All,

Gloria Jones who recorded "Tainted Love" is NOT dead.
Gloria Jones is also NOT the same woman who was a member
of The Blossoms/Girlfriends.  This confusion exists
because Gloria Jones was also from Los Angeles where she
was a session singer and a member of The Cogic Singers,
with Edna Wright of The Honey Cone.  In addition to
"Tainted Love", Gloria recorded "Heartbeat Pts 1 & 2"
for Uptown Records, among other singles.  She met Marc
Bolan of T-Rex while she was singing backup for him on
tour.  They married and have a son.  Bolan and Gloria
were involved in a car accident in 1973(?). Bolan was
killed and Gloria was badly injured.  I believe she was
involved in production in the late 70s, producing "I
Haven't Stopped Dancing Yet" for Gonzalez on Capitol
Records in 1979, as well as recording for Motown for a
time.  She was most recently seen and heard in The Jerry
Garcia review.  She is now living out of the US right
now, I believe, in South Africa.


John Clemente

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Message: 4
   Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:31:55 -0000
   From: "Spector Collector" 
Subject: Re: Gloria and Dion

Two more trivia notes about Gloria Jones and Marc
Bolan: She was behind the wheel of their car in the
crash that took his life. At the time, their duet
version of the Spector song "To Know You Is to Love You"
was his/their current single, and if memory serves (and
not surprisingly), it went on to do well on the charts.

We're days from the announced release date of the Dion
"Born to Be With You"/"Streetheart" twofer, and I was
on vacation during the "Do we like this ('Born to Be
with You') song?" thread on this group, so forgive my
tardiness here. I like that song, but I love the non-LP
Spector-produced (and Jeff Barry co-written) single
"Baby Let's Stick Together." I saw a pre-release ad for
the CD that mentioned that it contains 20 tracks, and
the original lineup for the two LPs yields a total of
19, so I'm hoping desperately that Ace has added the
single as a bonus track. Does anyone know?

"Baby Let's Stick Together" is an amazing track, all
vocals and drums up front, with (I think) fuzz and alto
sax texturing the wall of echo way down in the mix.
Quite an atypical Spector production for its or any
other time, lacking strings and the funereal pace of
almost all the other Spector tracks of the period.

David A. Young

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Message: 5
   Date: Wed, 14 Mar 01 07:58:57 +0100
   From: Frank 
Subject: Re: Gloria Jones

>> Gloria Jones RIP (who was married to the guy 
>> who sang Bang A Gong)
>She was married to Marc Bolan of T. Rex??? The only song
>I know by her is Look What You Started, which is a Jackie
>DeShannon composition. Does anyone have any history on
>Will George

When I worked at EMI here in Paris, France, we did
release some of her recordings, but I mainly remember
her because she came to see me one day. When she came
into my office I was stunned to see that she was
accompanied by Marc Bolan. She wanted to know if I
would be interested in releasing his new LP. She was
extremely nice.. and so was he.


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Message: 6
   Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:21:11 +0800
   From: "Hans Ebert" 
Subject: Worth Searchin'

Tim Viney writes about the Searchers' and refers to
the album titled Take Me For What I'm Worth. What a
great track- written, I think, by PF Sloan, but here's
a band who were probably ahead of their time and sadly
underrated in the Pop Pantheon.

If you haven't already, listen to their version of
Needles And Pins and Jackie DeShannon's When You Walk
In The Room. In many ways, the Byrds before there were
the Byrds...but just my opinion..

And still on the subject of the British Pop
Scene...has anyone got any news on Keith West who had
a huge hit with Excerpt From A Teenage Opera? Classic
track that's got lost somewhere in the shuffle...


Hans Ebert

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Message: 7
   Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 10:20:18 -0000
   From: "Kingsley Abbott" 
Subject: Beach Boys 2fers

The new eight releases are the same as the 1990 ones,
but I believe the bonus tracks have been remastered, 
The only differences seem to be the back inlay sheet
of the releases and the outside sheet of the booklets
which has some new fanclub addresses (in the UK at
least) and has dispensed with the yellow flash to
leave unadulterated cover shots.  Of more interest is
the upcoming "Hawthorne" double CD.  Organised and
concieved as an audio documentary, it has many very
tasty inclusions...

There is also a new book on Dennis Wilson "Dumb Angel"
by Adam Webb about to be published in the UK by
Creation Books.  My own "Pet Sounds" book (purely
about the album and its history) should be out by
May/June on Helter Skelter Publishing.

Also look out for a further BB live offering from a
historic concert later in the year... perhaps even a
Jardine live issue!  You heard it here first!

Kingsley Abbott

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Message: 8
   Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:19:17 -0500
   From: "mikey1" 
Subject: Re: Beach Boys 2fers

 "Kingsley Abbott" wrote:

> The new eight releases are the same as the 1990 ones,
> but I believe the bonus tracks have been remastered,
> The only differences seem to be the back inlay sheet

NOT True!!!   EVERY track has been remastered!!! These
are NOT the same digital masters used in 1990 and again
in 1996 for the LPs on Cd, they are all newly done in 24
bit and sound AMAZING. ICE magazine did a whole article
on these.


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