http://www.spectropop.com ________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ The Legendary 60s Pop Music Discussion Forum ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 8 messages in this issue of Spectropop. Topics in this Digest Number 127: 1. Re: Re: mastered Beach Boys From: "Ron Weekes" 2. Re: Gloria Jones From: Patrick Rands 3. Gloria Jones From: John Clemente 4. Re: Gloria and Dion From: "Spector Collector" 5. Re: Gloria Jones From: Frank 6. Worth Searchin' From: "Hans Ebert" 7. Beach Boys 2fers From: "Kingsley Abbott" 8. Re: Beach Boys 2fers From: "mikey1" ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:12:43 -0700 From: "Ron Weekes" Subject: Re: Re: mastered Beach Boys "Lo, Levin" wrote: > Anyone out there who knows more details about the > remastered 2-in-1 Beach Boys albums from Capitol > (releasing in March & April)? > > Are there any substantial differences between these and > the 1990 releases? Would there be any "remixed stereo" > ala Pet Sounds Sessions? Any unearthed bonus tracks > since 1990? Is it Mark Linnett, or someone else, who's > doing the remastering this time? The only sonic difference is to me things sound a little brighter. I read on the Pet Sounds Mailing List that the mixes didn't use the No Noise filters as were done with the 1990s reissues. And I think the 24 bit mastering helps a little. Packaging is basically the same. No new bonus tracks. In fact, and I can't remember which, some of the bonus tracks are new mixes since the other tapes could not be found. Ron Weekes --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 16:12:16 -0500 From: Patrick Rands Subject: Re: Gloria Jones This is taken from the All Music Guide: Gloria Jones Born Sep 12, 1938 in Long View, TX When the name of Gloria Jones comes up in rocktalk, it's usually as a trivia question. Firstly, in the mid-'60s she recorded the original version of "Tainted Love," which was covered by Soft Cell for a huge international hit in 1982. She was also the girlfriend of British glam rocker Marc Bolan, in addition to singing and playing keyboards in his T. Rex band. Her considerable talent as as a soul singer gets lost in the shuffle, especially because few of her recordings are currently available. Jones earns a spot in rock history on the merits of "Tainted Love" alone. This propulsive mid-'60s soul stomper, wholly dissimilar to Soft Cell's wimpy synth-pop cover, is one of the great '60s hits that never was. "Heartbeat" was another throbbing near-miss, recorded with, oddly enough, producer Ed Cobb, who was more renowned for his work with garage-pop groups like the Standells and the Chocolate Watch Band. Both "Heartbeat" and "Tainted Love" were written by Cobb as well, although Jones was not without songwriting talent, co- writing Marvin Gaye and Diana Ross' 1974 hit duet, "My Mistake." Jones never had more than regional success, and (like several other minor American soul singers) moved to Great Britain, where the cultish devotion of Northern Soul fans ensured regular work. In 1974, Jones joined T. Rex (which by that time was fading rapidly) as a keyboardist and backing vocalist. Becoming romantically involved with the singer, she also helped sway him into a more soul/dance-oriented direction. Bolan in turn helped her out on her solo album Vixen, playing guitar and writing songs. After having a child, their time together came to a tragic end when Bolan was killed in a car accident in 1977, with Jones at the wheel. Richie Unterberger --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 07:16:01 -0500 From: John Clemente Subject: Gloria Jones Hello All, Gloria Jones who recorded "Tainted Love" is NOT dead. Gloria Jones is also NOT the same woman who was a member of The Blossoms/Girlfriends. This confusion exists because Gloria Jones was also from Los Angeles where she was a session singer and a member of The Cogic Singers, with Edna Wright of The Honey Cone. In addition to "Tainted Love", Gloria recorded "Heartbeat Pts 1 & 2" for Uptown Records, among other singles. She met Marc Bolan of T-Rex while she was singing backup for him on tour. They married and have a son. Bolan and Gloria were involved in a car accident in 1973(?). Bolan was killed and Gloria was badly injured. I believe she was involved in production in the late 70s, producing "I Haven't Stopped Dancing Yet" for Gonzalez on Capitol Records in 1979, as well as recording for Motown for a time. She was most recently seen and heard in The Jerry Garcia review. She is now living out of the US right now, I believe, in South Africa. Regards, John Clemente --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:31:55 -0000 From: "Spector Collector" Subject: Re: Gloria and Dion Two more trivia notes about Gloria Jones and Marc Bolan: She was behind the wheel of their car in the crash that took his life. At the time, their duet version of the Spector song "To Know You Is to Love You" was his/their current single, and if memory serves (and not surprisingly), it went on to do well on the charts. We're days from the announced release date of the Dion "Born to Be With You"/"Streetheart" twofer, and I was on vacation during the "Do we like this ('Born to Be with You') song?" thread on this group, so forgive my tardiness here. I like that song, but I love the non-LP Spector-produced (and Jeff Barry co-written) single "Baby Let's Stick Together." I saw a pre-release ad for the CD that mentioned that it contains 20 tracks, and the original lineup for the two LPs yields a total of 19, so I'm hoping desperately that Ace has added the single as a bonus track. Does anyone know? "Baby Let's Stick Together" is an amazing track, all vocals and drums up front, with (I think) fuzz and alto sax texturing the wall of echo way down in the mix. Quite an atypical Spector production for its or any other time, lacking strings and the funereal pace of almost all the other Spector tracks of the period. David A. Young --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 5 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 01 07:58:57 +0100 From: Frank Subject: Re: Gloria Jones >> Gloria Jones RIP (who was married to the guy >> who sang Bang A Gong) > >She was married to Marc Bolan of T. Rex??? The only song >I know by her is Look What You Started, which is a Jackie >DeShannon composition. Does anyone have any history on >her? > >Will George When I worked at EMI here in Paris, France, we did release some of her recordings, but I mainly remember her because she came to see me one day. When she came into my office I was stunned to see that she was accompanied by Marc Bolan. She wanted to know if I would be interested in releasing his new LP. She was extremely nice.. and so was he. Frank --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 6 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:21:11 +0800 From: "Hans Ebert" Subject: Worth Searchin' Tim Viney writes about the Searchers' and refers to the album titled Take Me For What I'm Worth. What a great track- written, I think, by PF Sloan, but here's a band who were probably ahead of their time and sadly underrated in the Pop Pantheon. If you haven't already, listen to their version of Needles And Pins and Jackie DeShannon's When You Walk In The Room. In many ways, the Byrds before there were the Byrds...but just my opinion.. And still on the subject of the British Pop Scene...has anyone got any news on Keith West who had a huge hit with Excerpt From A Teenage Opera? Classic track that's got lost somewhere in the shuffle... Cheers, Hans Ebert --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 7 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 10:20:18 -0000 From: "Kingsley Abbott" Subject: Beach Boys 2fers The new eight releases are the same as the 1990 ones, but I believe the bonus tracks have been remastered, The only differences seem to be the back inlay sheet of the releases and the outside sheet of the booklets which has some new fanclub addresses (in the UK at least) and has dispensed with the yellow flash to leave unadulterated cover shots. Of more interest is the upcoming "Hawthorne" double CD. Organised and concieved as an audio documentary, it has many very tasty inclusions... There is also a new book on Dennis Wilson "Dumb Angel" by Adam Webb about to be published in the UK by Creation Books. My own "Pet Sounds" book (purely about the album and its history) should be out by May/June on Helter Skelter Publishing. Also look out for a further BB live offering from a historic concert later in the year... perhaps even a Jardine live issue! You heard it here first! Kingsley Abbott --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 8 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:19:17 -0500 From: "mikey1" Subject: Re: Beach Boys 2fers "Kingsley Abbott" wrote: > The new eight releases are the same as the 1990 ones, > but I believe the bonus tracks have been remastered, > The only differences seem to be the back inlay sheet NOT True!!! EVERY track has been remastered!!! These are NOT the same digital masters used in 1990 and again in 1996 for the LPs on Cd, they are all newly done in 24 bit and sound AMAZING. ICE magazine did a whole article on these. Mike --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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